SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

[hollywood7477]

When we played them we had a free kick count done and ph umpire just in the first half awarded 17 free kicks to ph and none to us. Then when our umpire gave us a couple of off the ball frees their umpire called some of the worst frees in history. Yes our umpire called a few beauties in the last 2 mins but up until then he was pretty good.
Maybe as it's been mentioned before club umpires should not umpire their game there should be 2 mutual umpires.

[old roo]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

[turbo182]

Terrific Win for us against a quality opponent. When we got out to a 5 goals lead in the end secodn term, would have been easy for them to let it get away, but to their credit they fought back into the game and made us earn the points. Considering our three key forwards are all out injured, amongst others, it was good to see a big spread of goalkickers for us.

Thought Mason was awesome for you guys, Tucker and no. 14 both played well, but Rowe had a quiet day. While he only playe a bt over a half, what Campo did was class. That was his first game in any form since he did his knee in 07 so an achievement none the less, and having someone with his experience can only be a good thing for the younger lads. To

Missed all the commotion re timekeepers.

Must say, the umpiring was confusing. Over-officiating was probably the best way to put it, which seems to be common place for the younger guys, as opposed to the older umpires we've had this year who have been pretty damn good IMO. Still trying to work out how we had a 65m penalty paid against us. But meh, thats footy - take the good with the bad.

[PK12]

can I just say the antics shown by the Mitcham President on saturday were a disgrace, the guy was out of line and just looking for trouble, he is very lucky it didn't escalate. It was a blight on what was a fantastic game of footy. SMOSH started strong then Mitcham pegged it back and from half time on it was pretty much goal for goal. Scott Camporeale showing he still had some run in his legs with some great touches...

I would have to say the bloke who was trying to do stats and be a time keeper was perhaps the biggest tosser ive ever come across. Anyone who even approached him he ripped their heads off. Even your match day official said he was a pain in the ass and difficult to control so if your own club can't do it how are we meant to? I was walking past when all of this happened and our president was pretty controlled considering he had a guy abusing the S##T out of him about the game earlier in the year! What antics are you talking about A2M because it definately wasnt one way from the Mitcham president?

Im hearing a lot about scott camporeale being all class but from where i sat i did see him get caught holding the ball 2 or 3 times and probably should been caught for a few more. I can imagine a guy like that would have some great things to say to other players out on the field like i saw him pull cibich aside and give him some pointers but only saw him have very few quality disposals!

Look forward to hopefully meeting Smosh in the finals with both sides having a full dquad to pick from .... the rivalry seems to be growing each game we play which is great!

[PK12]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

You have to be joking old roo? When 9 clubs are saying the same thing you really need to have a good look at him....

As hollywood said...the only way this problem will be fixed is if every club provides a B grade umpire and they umpire games their team are playing in!

[schimma]

I would have to say the bloke who was trying to do stats and be a time keeper was perhaps the biggest tosser ive ever come across. Anyone who even approached him he ripped their heads off. Even your match day official said he was a pain in the ass and difficult to control so if your own club can't do it how are we meant to? I was walking past when all of this happened and our president was pretty controlled considering he had a guy abusing the S##T out of him about the game earlier in the year! What antics are you talking about A2M because it definately wasnt one way from the Mitcham president?

Mate you may want to get the full story and not just come on here and C#$p on about a dead situation. Situation was over and handled at the time. If you want to bring things up from the past we will bring up what happened the first time and the behaviour of the same Mitcham person. As far as we are concerned the matter is over. Build a bridge and get over it.

[PK12]

I would have to say the bloke who was trying to do stats and be a time keeper was perhaps the biggest tosser ive ever come across. Anyone who even approached him he ripped their heads off. Even your match day official said he was a pain in the ass and difficult to control so if your own club can't do it how are we meant to? I was walking past when all of this happened and our president was pretty controlled considering he had a guy abusing the S##T out of him about the game earlier in the year! What antics are you talking about A2M because it definately wasnt one way from the Mitcham president?

Mate you may want to get the full story and not just come on here and C#$p on about a dead situation. Situation was over and handled at the time. If you want to bring things up from the past we will bring up what happened the first time and the behaviour of the same Mitcham person. As far as we are concerned the matter is over. Build a bridge and get over it.

Slightly confused there Schimma as A2M initially brought it up so im not sure who needs to build the bridge as i was simply responding to what he wrote. I was right amongst it all so i dont need "the full story" from another source!

[a2m]

Rightio Pk, well as I was there too the one person provoking it all was your Mitcham president, and even standing with a non biased person he also said the Mitcham guy was too blame and couldn't understand why he kept going on at the SMOSH people.
I really couldn't give a toss but you should really take a good hard look at yourself champ.

[SATCHEL]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

You have to be joking old roo? When 9 clubs are saying the same thing you really need to have a good look at him....

As hollywood said...the only way this problem will be fixed is if every club provides a B grade umpire and they umpire games their team are playing in!

Will back you up there PK. If this bloke is still hanging onto 99 SANFL and 120 reserves well it just goes to show he has other things to worry about. Our Umpire as much as i hate to admit it is no where near as blatant or bad as teh PH ump. Did you not hear our bench going beserk at our ump for making stuff up and protecting the bloke over the ball. I dont think it was written by me that our ump was any good. I wrote that he was shocking. I have written on here previously taht i think he should be removed from officiating our games. In fact he helped PH out by far gretaer decision/s or lack there of in our favor. Have a better read of the posts mate. I dont think Mitcham's ump is that bad. I havent seen Pembroke as they didnt want tripler headers with us (which is crazy as they dont have a D grade) so cant pass comment. As PK stated if this comes up every time a game is played that makes 18 seperate remarks about this guys officiating ability. As long as ive been going to PH and having the games at home in Div 3 he has been the main focus of critiscism. In my book thats a lot of complaints that fall on deaf ears or is it something PH want to continue with. Lets not throw the stones to hard shall we?

[old roo]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

You have to be joking old roo? When 9 clubs are saying the same thing you really need to have a good look at him....

As hollywood said...the only way this problem will be fixed is if every club provides a B grade umpire and they umpire games their team are playing in!

Will back you up there PK. If this bloke is still hanging onto 99 SANFL and 120 reserves well it just goes to show he has other things to worry about. Our Umpire as much as i hate to admit it is no where near as blatant or bad as teh PH ump. Did you not hear our bench going beserk at our ump for making stuff up and protecting the bloke over the ball. I dont think it was written by me that our ump was any good. I wrote that he was shocking. I have written on here previously taht i think he should be removed from officiating our games. In fact he helped PH out by far gretaer decision/s or lack there of in our favor. Have a better read of the posts mate. I dont think Mitcham's ump is that bad. I havent seen Pembroke as they didnt want tripler headers with us (which is crazy as they dont have a D grade) so cant pass comment. As PK stated if this comes up every time a game is played that makes 18 seperate remarks about this guys officiating ability. As long as ive been going to PH and having the games at home in Div 3 he has been the main focus of critiscism. In my book thats a lot of complaints that fall on deaf ears or is it something PH want to continue with. Lets not throw the stones to hard shall we?

Is PH the only club to complain about your UMP?? i think not & as far as ours goes I will say this, he's been there for no longer than 3 years... he pays it how he see's it & will keep it fair as much as he can.. But if things start to get out of control from the other ump he'll even it up.... Let's be fair it's a hard job to do & not many would do it. I watched the day PH were at portland that was bad

[SATCHEL]

Is PH the only club to complain about your UMP?? i think not & as far as ours goes I will say this, he's been there for no longer than 3 years... he pays it how he see's it & will keep it fair as much as he can.. But if things start to get out of control from the other ump he'll even it up.... Let's be fair it's a hard job to do & not many would do it. I watched the day PH were at portland that was bad[/quote]


I cant remember reading anyone directly making any complaints about our ump because we do enough for everyone on here. If the B grade coach ever came on here he would tee right off believe me. If the above statement is true, thats exactly what im talking about. if any ump is being untoward on any given day tghe other ump should NEVER try and EVEN IT UP. Who's the bloke to make that call. So his interpretation is obviously not the right one when most people that play against PH and he is the ump make these comments. To even up the play is just as bad as creating a result.

[NO-MERCY]

I've seen the Para Hills B grade umpire, he's a full on cheat.
I've seen the old boy at SMOSH, he's a full on cheat.
I've seen the B grade umpire from Woodville South, he's a full on cheat.
I must say though when an umpire cheats & makes consistent bad decisions in favour of his own club, it only encourages the opposition umpire to try & even up which results in games ruined by inconsiderate ar$eholes who are umpiring for the wrong reasons.
Are they in it for the quick $60-$80 they get & contribute at all costs to the result? ( in favour of their team ) or are they their for the right reasons, to be consistently fair to both clubs & teach players wrong from right?

[hollywood7477]

At the end of the day we are lucky enough to get blokes to do it, and I tell ya what I wouldn't want to do it. It's hard enough to umpire a handball game let alone a game of footy with abuse that comes with it and not just from the opposing sides. What disappoints me is that club umpires even it up when they think their team is getting a rough deal. The saafl should look at other ways to control it because as you can see people aren't happy and it's not going to change. As I said get the club umpire to umpire a different game than the one their club is involved in. You may lose some umpires because they would want to watch their a grade after but I think it would work.

[Choccies]

I know the PH umpire well, in fact I work with him and he has admitted that if a call is 50-50 he will give it to his own side. This has come from his own mouth. Because I know what he's like we expect it, as we did a couple of years ago when he was Adelaide Lutherans umpire and just accept he's crap and worry about other things. It's what you get in B grade. B grade umps. I'm trying to learn to live with it as others should. Will be like this for the next 1,000 years I guess...

[NO-MERCY]

At the end of the day we are lucky enough to get blokes to do it, and I tell ya what I wouldn't want to do it. It's hard enough to umpire a handball game let alone a game of footy with abuse that comes with it and not just from the opposing sides. What disappoints me is that club umpires even it up when they think their team is getting a rough deal. The saafl should look at other ways to control it because as you can see people aren't happy and it's not going to change. As I said get the club umpire to umpire a different game than the one their club is involved in. You may lose some umpires because they would want to watch their a grade after but I think it would work.

Agree with you, if they want to watch their own A grade surely they'd get to their game before half time.

[stretch]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

That is crap. Have never heard any complaints about him.

And if someone who's umpired 200+ SANFL games doesn't know the basic holding the ball rule for ruck contests then the game is doomed.

[hawk03]

Great win by the boys on the weekend. Shame our 2's couldnt get up in the end. Once again the club umps were at their best in the 2's. Serial offender for PH was his typical biast, over officiated but still under called game. Our ump was shocking also. Protecting the bloke over the ball would be good. Not making up rules as you go along would be even better. Every year and every time we play PH their ump is as good as it doesnt get. It just ruins the game.

The same thing would be said for the so called SAAFL umpires that were supplied. That old bloke was an idiot. The younger bloke wasnt much better.
Thought McCurry had a great game. Prior was great and Wareing was far too good for his opponent. Thought the run and carry was great to see. I havent seen the A's play for a couple of weeks. I might have been keeping an eye elsewhere but i didnt see much of the runner heading out to Bamford on Saturday? I still feel playing and coaching does not make much benefit. Only positives i can see is the leadership on the ground but if your not having a good game yourself it doesnt flow. All round a good day. PH supporters were grea. Low in numbers tahn what ive been used to. Next week will be a big one. Unpredictable but still can get up and about GG should be a good day for all three games.

Wake up, Portland's ump has been a joke for years!!!! Last time in the B's he did everything possible to help you win it & failed... PH ump is fine as long as the opp ump does the right thing & doesn't cheat like Portland, Mitcham or Pembroke's( the worse in history)... No to mention i think his stats are 99 SANFL league games & 120 reserves....

That is crap. Have never heard any complaints about him.

And if someone who's umpired 200+ SANFL games doesn't know the basic holding the ball rule for ruck contests then the game is doomed.

+1, mitcham is very lucky to hav Flavio as our umpire.... good umpire and very fair

[hollywood7477]

Heard on the grapevine 3 big outs for Portland!!!
Perkins stubbed his toe at work and is out for a couple, laslett not sure the injury and McAdam broken hand maybe done for the year. And I heard big Andy Thornton is resting getting himself right for round 17 when they travel to Hawk park......

[turbo182]

Have your blokes come back from their skiing trip yet Hollywood?

Big games this week thats go either way - Mictham vs Seaton, and Pooraka vs Flinders.

Pooraka could be a chance to get over FP - Coghill back and Derham back as the Magpies have the bye!

Small oval should hold no fears for the ramblers either.

Crucial for us to get over an improving Pembroke side. They still have plenty of quality kicking aorund and we'll have to play bloody well to get the points.

[Muffler]

I think you might find laslett overseas ATM Hollywood