SAAFL Div 6 & Div 6R (2011)

[Q.]

Colonel Light Garden 11.09 75 v 15.16 106 Central United
Houghton Districts 04.04 28 v 12.21 93 Blackfriars OS
Ingle Farm 06.09 45 v 11.08 74 Henley
Kenilworth 22.16 148 v 08.10 58 Glenunga
Trinity OS 05.08 38 v 11.10 76 Adelaide University

kenilworth v glenunga margin was significant and significantly surprising.

So was Adelaide University smashing Trinity OS.

Good to see the Henley lads have a win, been a while, and I bet they downed a few frothies at the club last night.

[Footy Chick]

So are the TOSSERS offically in crisis mode now? Poor results and losing numbers, reflected by their c grade non-appearances?

[TOS_lad23]

So are the TOSSERS offically in crisis mode now? Poor results and losing numbers, reflected by their c grade non-appearances?

Injuries and people being away have really hurt us this year. When your B grade is 12-1 i wouldnt go as far as saying crisis mode. Our A grade is struggling due to massive losses in the midfield,We're missing 8 A graders who rotate through the middle, which is a massive hole that any team will struggle to fill. Were fully manned everywhere else but that doesnt help when your getting cut up at the clearances and not putting the ball into the fwd 50 effectively.

The C grade then cop it the worst as people stepping up into the higher grades leaves them low on numbers and struggling to be competitive. We'll keep pushing on and fighting it out until the situation improves.

[TOSSER]

So are the TOSSERS offically in crisis mode now? Poor results and losing numbers, reflected by their c grade non-appearances?

Injuries and people being away have really hurt us this year. When your B grade is 12-1 i wouldnt go as far as saying crisis mode. Our A grade is struggling due to massive losses in the midfield,We're missing 8 A graders who rotate through the middle, which is a massive hole that any team will struggle to fill. Were fully manned everywhere else but that doesnt help when your getting cut up at the clearances and not putting the ball into the fwd 50 effectively.

The C grade then cop it the worst as people stepping up into the higher grades leaves them low on numbers and struggling to be competitive. We'll keep pushing on and fighting it out until the situation improves.

Fully agree. Still missing 3 of our 5 leadership group. Got Nourse (B & F from last year) for the game on the weekend but unlikely to play again this week. Struggling to get Michael Zorich away from work commitments plus 3 or 4 other first choice a graders that can run through midfield unavailable for various reasons.

At this point in time we just dont have the depth to cover such quality players. We have a lot of good quality B graders but to be honest they are not capable at this stage of making a huge impact at A grade level. All but 1 of our b grade leadership group is currently playing a grade along with several others from the b grade which is testing the b grade depth too, hence the first loss of the season on the weekend.

[Jugs]

Been well documented on here and other publications that the jump between Div 6 and 7 has been historically a big one, but perhaps the trend has changed with the 3 sides that moved up from last year all currently entrenched in the 5. Maybe the standard has dropped somewhat with a Lockleys reject kicking bags of goals for Ingle Farm, Houghton are held up by one player (no offence Quichey) and Kenilworth have a bloke who is nearly 40 dominating off a half back flank in a wheel chair. The only reason I ask, is I for one was sceptical of a possible jump in grades for a traditional C grade side. I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

[Q.]

Been well documented on here and other publications that the jump between Div 6 and 7 has been historically a big one, but perhaps the trend has changed with the 3 sides that moved up from last year all currently entrenched in the 5. Maybe the standard has dropped somewhat with a Lockleys reject kicking bags of goals for Ingle Farm, Houghton are held up by one player (no offence Quichey) and Kenilworth have a bloke who is nearly 40 dominating off a half back flank in a wheel chair. The only reason I ask, is I for one was sceptical of a possible jump in grades for a traditional C grade side. I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

Yes, we are a one man team, the other 20 players stand around twiddling their thumbs.

Henley are a good example of why the jump is great. You need to recruit well to do well.

[Q.]

I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

Yes, I think they are in an excellent position to be competitive in Div 6, if indeed they gain promotion.

[Jugs]

Been well documented on here and other publications that the jump between Div 6 and 7 has been historically a big one, but perhaps the trend has changed with the 3 sides that moved up from last year all currently entrenched in the 5. Maybe the standard has dropped somewhat with a Lockleys reject kicking bags of goals for Ingle Farm, Houghton are held up by one player (no offence Quichey) and Kenilworth have a bloke who is nearly 40 dominating off a half back flank in a wheel chair. The only reason I ask, is I for one was sceptical of a possible jump in grades for a traditional C grade side. I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

Yes, we are a one man team, the other 20 players stand around twiddling their thumbs.

Henley are a good example of why the jump is great. You need to recruit well to do well.

I didn't mean it like that Quichey, but I'm sure if you spoke to other clubs about coming up against Houghton, one name would be singled out, and whilst you could never restrict his entire influence, I'm sure most Div 6 clubs have identified Liam Davis as the man most other clubs would love to have. Bear in mind also that SHOC gave Glenunga a good touch up in last years finals and even though they have significantly improved, so too have SHOC. Henley are a bad example cos SHOC would beat them easily now and I'd dare say that the boys from Sacred Heart would have the Raiders currently covered too.

[zedman]

my thoughts initially this year were that div 6 was a bit weaker than previous years and that is showing up for some of the reasons you mentioned jugs..div 5 however is a torrid grade so i would imagine that over 2-3 years div 6 will also be a bigger hurdle than it is now..fwiw malbunka is not a reject, and HDFC do have other players but davis is the man..as for goldsmith hes getting some nice coin on the side to go with his aged pension

big wins to the kookas and uni..dont know whats gong on at GFC..had 4-5 out I could see and they are very good players but they wouldnt be happy with that..the long wide spaces of st marys brought them undone..

[woodublieve12]

my thoughts initially this year were that div 6 was a bit weaker than previous years and that is showing up for some of the reasons you mentioned jugs..div 5 however is a torrid grade so i would imagine that over 2-3 years div 6 will also be a bigger hurdle than it is now..fwiw malbunka is not a reject, and HDFC do have other players but davis is the man..as for goldsmith hes getting some nice coin on the side to go with his aged pension

big wins to the kookas and uni..dont know whats gong on at GFC..had 4-5 out I could see and they are very good players but they wouldnt be happy with that..the long wide spaces of st marys brought them undone..

why?

[Q.]

Fair enough you two, but if you ignore what is put in the paper, lads like Moncrieff, O'Brian, Ballatori, Taylor, Starr, have been BOGs and frequent the best players and are equally important in getting the ball to Liam up forward.

I don't think SHOC would struggle with their current team, but I don't think wins would come easy in Div 6. If they are relying on Carroll as a focal point, it's fair to say he wouldn't get close to kicking 100 goals because the quality of key defenders is far greater.

[lutz]

Been well documented on here and other publications that the jump between Div 6 and 7 has been historically a big one, but perhaps the trend has changed with the 3 sides that moved up from last year all currently entrenched in the 5. Maybe the standard has dropped somewhat with a Lockleys reject kicking bags of goals for Ingle Farm, Houghton are held up by one player (no offence Quichey) and Kenilworth have a bloke who is nearly 40 dominating off a half back flank in a wheel chair. The only reason I ask, is I for one was sceptical of a possible jump in grades for a traditional C grade side. I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

I think the gap is still there, however as Quichey pointed out, Glenunga and Central United recruited well over summer. When Henley went from D7 to D6 i expected them to make the 5 but it didnt happen. It is a big ask for any C grade side to be consistently competitive against A grade sides in D6. Adelaide Uni have surprised me a bit this year as to how well they are coping, and i guess their depth is a contributor to their success at this level.
Henley's C grade isn't necessarily weak atm, they have lost a few close games. It is a big call for you to be saying that SHOC's would win easily.

[zedman]

my thoughts initially this year were that div 6 was a bit weaker than previous years and that is showing up for some of the reasons you mentioned jugs..div 5 however is a torrid grade so i would imagine that over 2-3 years div 6 will also be a bigger hurdle than it is now..fwiw malbunka is not a reject, and HDFC do have other players but davis is the man..as for goldsmith hes getting some nice coin on the side to go with his aged pension

big wins to the kookas and uni..dont know whats gong on at GFC..had 4-5 out I could see and they are very good players but they wouldnt be happy with that..the long wide spaces of st marys brought them undone..

why?

have a look at the premiership table this year and the 2 teams who came down last year(inc NH in that)..its very even and strong so 2 good teams get relegated..make a mistake at the wrong time and you are going down a division

[Shark_Hunter]

Been well documented on here and other publications that the jump between Div 6 and 7 has been historically a big one, but perhaps the trend has changed with the 3 sides that moved up from last year all currently entrenched in the 5. Maybe the standard has dropped somewhat with a Lockleys reject kicking bags of goals for Ingle Farm, Houghton are held up by one player (no offence Quichey) and Kenilworth have a bloke who is nearly 40 dominating off a half back flank in a wheel chair. The only reason I ask, is I for one was sceptical of a possible jump in grades for a traditional C grade side. I’m not so worried now about SHOC’s imminent move to Div 6 in 2012, and I’d expect them at a bare minimum of making the major round.

I think the gap is still there, however as Quichey pointed out, Glenunga and Central United recruited well over summer. When Henley went from D7 to D6 i expected them to make the 5 but it didnt happen. It is a big ask for any C grade side to be consistently competitive against A grade sides in D6. Adelaide Uni have surprised me a bit this year as to how well they are coping, and i guess their depth is a contributor to their success at this level.
Henley's C grade isn't necessarily weak atm, they have lost a few close games. It is a big call for you to be saying that SHOC's would win easily.

Some of the sides that Henley have put on the park this season would have belted our 2008/09 Div 7 GF sides by 10 goals plus and would have to be a 20+ goal better side than what we put on the park in 2005 in D6.
D6 is a far better comp than D7 - a group of us who played in 08/09 stood watching the game on Saturday saying exactly that. I obvioulsy haven't seen SHOC this year but I doubt any C grade side (apart from Uni with their greater depth) could genuinely contest for a premiership in D6 at the standard it is at the moment. I'd love to be proven wrong as I'd love to think the Sharks could one day be pushing to get to D5 but from what I've seen over the past 15 years of being around D6-D8 footy I'd think that was being extremely ambitious. Having said that I would always support strong C grade sides like Uni, Henley and SHOC having a crack at D6/D7 rather than dropping down to C Divisions.
Its all a bit of a cycle and anyone that hangs around a club for long enough should get the chance to play in a successful team at some point, whether that is created by going down a Div or not.

[zedman]

absolute respect for the C grade sides who give it a crack

[beeroclock]

I thought Henley were awesome against Ingle Farm on Sat. You could certainly tell the diff of a club that has obvious advantages of training with better skilled footballers during the week. Uni have also done a fantastic job this season. I guess for either of these sides it would be extremely tough to win a GF in these grades due to the fact that when injuries occur in the above two sides then the players must come from below. Credit to both clubs and players involved to accept this situation.
Numbers 2,3,8,14,17 and the woggy skinner bloke from the backlines were unstoppable for Henley,throw in their full back as well. Think the Woggy fella was number 23. Well done Sharks.

[lutz]

I thought Henley were awesome against Ingle Farm on Sat. You could certainly tell the diff of a club that has obvious advantages of training with better skilled footballers during the week. Uni have also done a fantastic job this season. I guess for either of these sides it would be extremely tough to win a GF in these grades due to the fact that when injuries occur in the above two sides then the players must come from below. Credit to both clubs and players involved to accept this situation.
Numbers 2,3,8,14,17 and the woggy skinner bloke from the backlines were unstoppable for Henley,throw in their full back as well. Think the Woggy fella was number 23. Well done Sharks.

The C's and D's do not train with the A's/B's

[MW]

Shane Gabrielli Central United 6R Guitly - 5 years

What did this dude do?

[Demon Juke]

Shane Gabrielli Central United 6R Guitly - 5 years

What did this dude do?

Go back a few pages and read

[Shark_Hunter]

I thought Henley were awesome against Ingle Farm on Sat. You could certainly tell the diff of a club that has obvious advantages of training with better skilled footballers during the week. Uni have also done a fantastic job this season. I guess for either of these sides it would be extremely tough to win a GF in these grades due to the fact that when injuries occur in the above two sides then the players must come from below. Credit to both clubs and players involved to accept this situation.
Numbers 2,3,8,14,17 and the woggy skinner bloke from the backlines were unstoppable for Henley,throw in their full back as well. Think the Woggy fella was number 23. Well done Sharks.

The C's and D's do not train with the A's/B's

They don't at Henley either but on odd occasions during the season we do actually get players dropping down from B grade into Cs rather than the opposite! Such players are usually more skilled from playing a quicker paced game in D1R but perhaps not quite as used to some of the stronger bodies in D6.