Flipper resigns

[MagicKiwi]

So long as we don't get their current coach back.

[Stumps]

Hello Constance

Paul Nobes should also resign didnt rate him much as a cricketer and certainly dont rate him as a administrator.

poor call newman- his record speaks for itself at shield level.

[Newman]

What record stumps your kidding yourself if you think he was a quality cricketer.

[rod_rooster]

Over 6000 runs at around 41 in first class cricket. 15 first class centuries. Not a great player but handy for sure.

[Stumps]

that record newman- im sure he wont lose any sleep over your assessment of him as a cricketer.
the backs could use someone averaging over 40 at the moment

[Adelaide Hawk]

CP if your talking about a certain ex player that is now an administrator he definitely should walk. How they handled the Greg Blewett situation was an absolute disgrace.

In what way?

[Adelaide Hawk]

He may of given his best but when the players stop respecting the coach it is definitely time to move on. Just a pity it is a season too late.

I think it would be safe to say there are a few players who would have lost the respect of Flipper over the past couple of years as well.

[stampy]

i have never thought wayne phillips was the man for the job, too much one of the boys for my liking, we need to cast the net a bit wider than just here in sa, tom moody would be perfect in my book but doubt he would want to come here based on our history with coaches and the lack of killer instinct and desire within the elite players of our state. I am surprised that rod marshs influence hasnt had some sort of effect on the sorry state our cricket is in at the moment

[dinglinga]

funny bout paul nobes cos his empoyer at the time relised he was the man they thought he was...now he is at ANOTHER dealership

[Dutchy]

Sad but true a lot of the comments on here...I had the pleasure of meeting flipper this time last year during a Pura Cup game and he arranged a autographed bat for me by the Redcaps for a raffle for Cancer...very nice guy and I think that might have been his downfall...a mate of mine is good mates with Flipper so will try to get the real facts over the coming days

[Adelaide Hawk]

Sad but true a lot of the comments on here...I had the pleasure of meeting flipper this time last year during a Pura Cup game and he arranged a autographed bat for me by the Redcaps for a raffle for Cancer...very nice guy and I think that might have been his downfall...a mate of mine is good mates with Flipper so will try to get the real facts over the coming days

Yes, Flipper is a very laconic person, and a lot of fun to spend some time with. However, don't let that fool you. Underneath there is a fiercely competitive person desperate for success. He wouldn't have played 27 Test matches without it.

If Flipper made a mistake, it was to treat his players like responsible human beings, and wasn't prepared to fill the role of a Kindergarten teacher. He fought his entire time with player attitudes and lack of support from the SACA when attempting to deal with players not wanting to do what is expected from 1st Class cricketers. Imagine being coach of a team, not having the teams you want, and not being allowed to discipline players.

Flipper found out that you cannot make a player do what they simply don't want to do. A previous post alluded to Flipper losing the respect of some players. If that is true, then those players really need to take a long hard look at themselves, and I would have an idea who some of them may be ... players who would rather party than become good cricketers. I know five players in the Redbacks squad and they all enjoyed Flipper as a coach.

I will state right now that no matter who we appoint to the role next season, unless changes are made to the structure of SA cricket and the attitude of the SACA themselves, we will be looking for a new coach within the next 2-3 years. It's funny how every Redbacks coach falls on the same sword.

[mal]

Im going to piece together what Ive heard.
Flipper knew about 3 weeks ago he was being retrenched.
Flipper from the gos I got, did not want ELLIOTT and BLEWETT last season[one or both offered to TAS.]
Flipper was not entirely the main man calling the shots, not a *jolly* fellow.

I feel sorry for flipper, as coach he must accept the failures, but those in the
know tell me he is the scapegoat.

Selective quotes Advertiser 17/03/07

LEHMANN has fallen out with state selectors this season over team selection.

MARSH did not give SA's leadership team this year a glowing endorsement
Asked if LEHMANN would be captain next year MARSH said "I dont know"

Some critics beleive they have been hamstrung by the 3 year $300,000
deals given to veterans Matthew ELLIOTT and Greg BLEWETT.


MALS VERDICT
-----------------

Blame the birdbrains handing out exhorbitant contracts to players past thier best
Blame the captain for his inadequate on field leadership [last season only]
Blame the batsmen who made starts without converting big scores.
Blame the selectors to a small degree for picking thier best p/cup team after 8 games.
Blame a certain superior in the set up for making the wrongish decisions[not Marsh]


As I have said FLIPPER will be made the scapegoat for everybody elses incompetence.

[Specky McGee]

As for the comments made by Rod Marsh in relation to Darren Lehmann and the Redbacks captaincy, who could possibly replace him. The only two i could think of:

1. Jason Gillespie - who has yet to be offered a contract for next year.

2. Shane Dietz - v.good season and easily our best, but you cant reward someone with the captaincy after 1 good season.

Has to be Lehmann again, surely.

[stampy]

interesting the captaincy/lehmann issue at the moment, the fact is we cant afford to lose someone of boof's batting prowess, however you dont have to be einstein to work out that his captaincy is hanging by a thread and in all probability he wont be reappoinrted(a bit like hookesy) so where to for the great man if thats the case? by all accounts from this site boof's captaincy has left a lot to be desired this past season

[hugecannon]

If Boof doesn't remain as captain what are the odds that he'll remain on as a player? I have no idea what his contract would be like but a very real possibility next year would be Blewett $100,00, Elliott $100,000, Lehmann $100,000 Gillespie without a CA contract $100,000 throw in Cullen who would be is serious doubt to retain his contract with CA and you've got half the salary cap gone on 4-5 players, one of whom won't play again (Blewett) another who shouldn't (Elliott) plus trying to fit in Cosgrove, Ferguson, Bailey, and the Borgas'. Things could get alot worse over the next few years if some of these players walk away from SA. I think the Crows have the right philosophy in that once players reach 30 they are only given one year contracts. At least we wouldn't have the farcial situation that we'll have next year.

[Dutchy]

I seriously dount Boof would play elsewhere....but Dizzy? ....never be captain

any chance Blewett might get a recall under a new coach?

[mal]

If Boof doesn't remain as captain what are the odds that he'll remain on as a player? I have no idea what his contract would be like but a very real possibility next year would be Blewett $100,00, Elliott $100,000, Lehmann $100,000 Gillespie without a CA contract $100,000 throw in Cullen who would be is serious doubt to retain his contract with CA and you've got half the salary cap gone on 4-5 players, one of whom won't play again (Blewett) another who shouldn't (Elliott) plus trying to fit in Cosgrove, Ferguson, Bailey, and the Borgas'. Things could get alot worse over the next few years if some of these players walk away from SA. I think the Crows have the right philosophy in that once players reach 30 they are only given one year contracts. At least we wouldn't have the farcial situation that we'll have next year.

After one post I can tell you have a cricketing brain.

[heater31]

If Boof was to retain his captiancy and his place in the team then he needs to curb his off field habits in a big way and not lead our younger guys into the wrong culture


Blewett has a big uphill battle to get back into the side under a new coach as the selction panel is still the same and he has also set the best example of his position by being the clubman that he is and accepting a contract to commentate in the West Indies and not playing grade finals


also Huge Cannon that is a top post BTW about time you said something

[Dutchy]

So Marsh is doing a review of everything relating to SA cricket but the selectors get off scott free and are guaranteed to be there next season????

[heater31]

So Marsh is doing a review of everything relating to SA cricket but the selectors get off scott free and are guaranteed to be there next season????

I would hope that they are also subjected to the same review as everybody else but at this stage the selection panel is still the same so therefore there is no room for Blewett in the side