Ian 'Nutta' Callinan

[Jim05]

I am not sure if the standard of the two comps is actually getting closer. I do agree that there would be 35+ players every week in the SANFL that are better than Crows or Ports bottom 10 players each week. You could improve either of our AFL sides by adding 5 of the top SANFL players and still leaving room to get games into some developing kids.

Power have got guys like Lobbe, Pittard, Moore, D.Stewart, Jacobs, O'Shea who right now are not as good as a heap of guys running around in the SANFL.

Agree and at the Crows you have, Petrenko, Sloane, Gunston, Jaench, L.Thompson, Douglas, A.Riley, Tambling, Martin, B.Smith etc etc

Interesting question would an SANFL best 22 beat the current Crows side!

Reckon they would beat the Crows by 5 goals

[The Sleeping Giant]

Harsh on Sloane, grouping him with a few of those mentioned.

[CoverKing]

Harsh on Sloane, grouping him with a few of those mentioned.

Along with jaensch, smith and DouglasIMO

Was great seeing Callinan go so well today! I loved watching him be so composed and work both ways so hard! If only the rest of the side had some composure and skills that he has!

[OnSong]

Harsh on Sloane, grouping him with a few of those mentioned.

Along with jaensch, smith and DouglasIMO

Was great seeing Callinan go so well today! I loved watching him be so composed and work both ways so hard! If only the rest of the side had some composure and skills that he has!

Yeah, just a clean footballer. Was very impressed, but not surprised.

[the joker]

I am not sure if the standard of the two comps is actually getting closer. I do agree that there would be 35+ players every week in the SANFL that are better than Crows or Ports bottom 10 players each week. You could improve either of our AFL sides by adding 5 of the top SANFL players and still leaving room to get games into some developing kids.

Power have got guys like Lobbe, Pittard, Moore, D.Stewart, Jacobs, O'Shea who right now are not as good as a heap of guys running around in the SANFL.

Agree and at the Crows you have, Petrenko, Sloane, Gunston, Jaench, L.Thompson, Douglas, A.Riley, Tambling, Martin, B.Smith etc etc

Interesting question would an SANFL best 22 beat the current Crows side!

Reckon they would beat the Crows by 5 goals

Your not being serious are you.
And essendon play the crows in a couple of weeks. And I would put my house on the crows smashing the bombers

[whufc]

I am not sure if the standard of the two comps is actually getting closer. I do agree that there would be 35+ players every week in the SANFL that are better than Crows or Ports bottom 10 players each week. You could improve either of our AFL sides by adding 5 of the top SANFL players and still leaving room to get games into some developing kids.

Power have got guys like Lobbe, Pittard, Moore, D.Stewart, Jacobs, O'Shea who right now are not as good as a heap of guys running around in the SANFL.

Agree and at the Crows you have, Petrenko, Sloane, Gunston, Jaench, L.Thompson, Douglas, A.Riley, Tambling, Martin, B.Smith etc etc

Interesting question would an SANFL best 22 beat the current Crows side!

Reckon they would beat the Crows by 5 goals

Your not being serious are you.
And essendon play the crows in a couple of weeks. And I would put my house on the crows smashing the bombers

F: Kirkby Havelberg Dunne
HF: C.Gowans Alleway Campbell
C: Goodrem T.Allen Lewis
HB: Sansbury Ferguson McKenzie
B: McGuinnes Sylvester McMahon
R: Meiklejohn Thomas J.Allan

INT: Parry Morris Ezard

B: Johncock, Rutten, L. Thompson
HB: Jaensch, Otten, Doughty
C: van Berlo, Reilly, Douglas
HF: Sloane, Henderson, Vince
F: Wright, Tippett, Callinan
R: Jacobs, S. Thompson, Dangerfield
IC/ (from): Knights, McKernan, Petrenko, Tambling
Emerg: Gunston, Schmidt, Maric

Do you honestly think if them teams playing against each other it wouldn't be a close match. I think you maybe another one grossly over rates the Crows players due to the media hype surrounding some of these blokes who are still spuds at SANFL level.

[the joker]

Ok let's look at it then.
Havelberg wouldnt get a kick on truck, johncock and Luke Thompson would just run off kirkby and dunne,
Alleway maybe to big and strong for otten, but once again otten would smash him going the other way.
Looking at the midfield the SANFL players could probably hold there own til about half time but the Afl players endurance would hurt them after that. And Vince, Thompson, dangerfield and Douglas would get way on top in the stoppages, and the forward line Tippett would monster Sylvester, and with the smarts of callinan up against McMahon on the ground balls. Your a dogs supporter, who would you think would win the 50/50s.
I don't know who would win a majority ruck taps though. Jacobs or meiklejohn

Crows by at least 12 goals

[whufc]

Ok let's look at it then.
Havelberg wouldnt get a kick on truck, johncock and Luke Thompson would just run off kirkby and dunne,
Alleway maybe to big and strong for otten, but once again otten would smash him going the other way.
Looking at the midfield the SANFL players could probably hold there own til about half time but the Afl players endurance would hurt them after that. And Vince, Thompson, dangerfield and Douglas would get way on top in the stoppages, and the forward line Tippett would monster Sylvester, and with the smarts of callinan up against McMahon on the ground balls. Your a dogs supporter, who would you think would win the 50/50s.
I don't know who would win a majority ruck taps though. Jacobs or meiklejohn

Crows by at least 12 goals

I agree fitness would be a issue but not as big as people think. Ill try and find the article but i remember the Crows saying how surprised they were at Callinans fitness levels and that he had come straight from Central and did very well in all their time trials etc etc, Callinan was not one of Centrals strongest runners either. Obviosuly the Crows spend more time on stoppages structures etc, but your acting like these players come back and just boss the SANFL.

Would love to see Tippets record when coming back to the SANFL, there has been better players come back than him before and struggle.

Rucks and midfield would be very even like you said except for Scott Thompson who is quality.

Luke Thompson is a good player who i think will turn into a very good AFL player, he played SANFL last year while he was good he wasnt exactly a superstar gun.

Imho Crows would win but would be a pretty decent close match all hypethetical obviously but fun discussion none the less.

[the joker]

Pretty sure that calling took a has taken a minute off his best 3 km time trial since his time at the crows. And I am not 100 percent sure but I think Tippett went back to westies a couple of years ago and kicked 6.

[whufc]

Pretty sure that calling took a has taken a minute off his best 3 km time trial since his time at the crows. And I am not 100 percent sure but I think Tippett went back to westies a couple of years ago and kicked 6.

You could be right i havent read anything since the pre-season started, trying to search but finding alot of other rubbish.

Tippett might have kicked 6 but has he kicked 14 on a bloke who is now starring in a navy blue guernsey

[the joker]

Pretty sure that calling took a has taken a minute off his best 3 km time trial since his time at the crows. And I am not 100 percent sure but I think Tippett went back to westies a couple of years ago and kicked 6.

You could be right i havent read anything since the pre-season started, trying to search but finding alot of other rubbish.

Tippett might have kicked 6 but has he kicked 14 on a bloke who is now starring in a navy blue guernsey

Probably not.... But he's kicked 8 on dustin Fletcher

[Big Phil]

Ian Callinan was on the FiveAA sports show this evening, I really enjoyed the interview.

Click here: http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_ian-call ... day_102081

[Grahaml]

How easily people forget the difference between AFL and SANFL. Paul Thomas went over to Essendon and looked out of his depth. Some guys manage to step up from SANFL and play roles in AFL but do you think Scott Thompson wouldn't tear an SANFL midfield apart? Tippett would monster the best defender in the SANFL while Kirkby can't get a kick on a recognised SANFL key defender. Havelberg could kick goals if the service he got was AFL standard, but with SANFL players under a little more pressure delivering the ball? He'd have to stand shoulder to shoulder with Rutten all day long.

If you want a true indication of the difference, look at Taylor Walker. Dominated the comp as an 18 year old IIRC, 4 years later struggling to get a kick at AFL level. Henderson goes from doing nothing with the crows to Centrals' best in a 1 point game against Norwood at Norwood.

I've always felt the SANFL sides would compete hard against an AFL side with two major exceptions. The size and strength of key forwards and the speed the AFL side can move the ball around. Other areas it would be a bit of a class difference clearly, but I can see SANFL players holding their own for the most part.

[Mighty Bird]

Very much agree that the sanfl side would struggle with the pace of the ball movement. Would love to see it tho, the waybthe crows are going we probably should see many more running around in the sanfl

[whufc]

How easily people forget the difference between AFL and SANFL. Paul Thomas went over to Essendon and looked out of his depth. Some guys manage to step up from SANFL and play roles in AFL but do you think Scott Thompson wouldn't tear an SANFL midfield apart? Tippett would monster the best defender in the SANFL while Kirkby can't get a kick on a recognised SANFL key defender. Havelberg could kick goals if the service he got was AFL standard, but with SANFL players under a little more pressure delivering the ball? He'd have to stand shoulder to shoulder with Rutten all day long.

If you want a true indication of the difference, look at Taylor Walker. Dominated the comp as an 18 year old IIRC, 4 years later struggling to get a kick at AFL level. Henderson goes from doing nothing with the crows to Centrals' best in a 1 point game against Norwood at Norwood.

I've always felt the SANFL sides would compete hard against an AFL side with two major exceptions. The size and strength of key forwards and the speed the AFL side can move the ball around. Other areas it would be a bit of a class difference clearly, but I can see SANFL players holding their own for the most part.

I think people forget easily how alot of these AFL players come back to play SANFL and dont neccessarily "GUN IT" in the SANFL. The likes of Petrenko, McKernan, Sloane, L.Thompson, Jacobs, Jaench, M.Wright, Tambling, Henderson would struggle to be in anyone top 20 SANFL players, these blokes have played a bit of SANFL and not been superstars regulary.

People are acting like every time Tippett plays SANFL he kicks a bag, that just isnt true. Taylor Walker generally stars but he is more of an exception.

Your Henderson example isnt great either because after his bog for Centrals he goes and plays for the Crows and is almost BOG for them against Western Bulldogs picking up high 20 possesions.

Your Thomas example isnt great either becuase if you speak to him he will tell you there was a massive clash between himseldf and Sheedy and he was told very early in the piece that he would be delisted at years end.

While you have mentioned Thomas you havent mentioned anything about Callinan, Duigan, Lower who have all made the step up and played decent AFL football straight away.

We have even had a case this year where one teams supporters were calling for a few of their AFL listed players to be dropped to the reserves for poor form. There are also other AFL listed players running around in SANFL reserves Matty Westoff being one of them.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Matty Wright? You don't see many North games do you.

[whufc]

Matty Wright? You don't see many North games do you.

I love Matty Wright and think his a very good player and will be a very good player.

He does very well in the SANFL but his not an absolute superstar that would dominate the best players in the SANFL each and every time.

On his SANFL form this year do you think he would have made the state side? serious question.

[CENTURION]

I would play Obst instead of Havelberg. We wouldn't beat The Crows but if We played Port at Elizabeth, I reckon We could give them a huge fright!

[The Sleeping Giant]

Matty Wright? You don't see many North games do you.

I love Matty Wright and think his a very good player and will be a very good player.

He does very well in the SANFL but his not an absolute superstar that would dominate the best players in the SANFL each and every time.

On his SANFL form this year do you think he would have made the state side? serious question.

Not sure. He only played 2 games.

Would Callinan on his 2 games? Of course he would.

[Gravel]

The Bottom AFL sides would beat the top SANFL sides by 20 goals +.
I suspect a few posters don't see AFL live and so don't quite appreciate the difference in skills, size and pace. The SANFL sides would be competitive into the 2nd quarter but then the superior fitness of the AFL sides would tell.