West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby sjt » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:56 am

A win for common sense and the good of the comp. For the effort put into the proposal or at least it's importance, the "positives" for the wafc were extremely flimsy. We await ruccis response ( after he comes out of mourning). The futility of all those pathetic articles.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby CedeNullis » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:59 am

PhilH wrote:Looks like WAFL have rejected the Eagles / Dockers proposal ... suppossed to take six weeks .. they responsed in one,


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/9623537/eagles-dockers-reserves-plan-rejected/

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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Agile » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:13 am

State Leagues unite !!!!!

I am not sure that we have the right people at the top, here in the SANFL. I have serouis doubts that L Wicker will take the fight up to the AFL and I am VERY doubtful that J Olsen will box on for the SANFL.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby smac » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:14 pm

Agile wrote:State Leagues unite !!!!!

I am not sure that we have the right people at the top, here in the SANFL. I have serouis doubts that L Wicker will take the fight up to the AFL and I am VERY doubtful that J Olsen will box on for the SANFL.

After chatting with a commission member and a couple of SANFL club board members, I am 100% confident in Olsen batting for the SANFL. Whicker is another matter altogether, seems to be lacking something, not sure if it is ability or intent though.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby spell_check » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:11 pm

sjt wrote:Anyone know how many listed Crows and Power players played in the SANFL last week?


We had none last week (1st time since Rd 19 2007). And only one (Salter) this week.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby StrayDog » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:13 pm

CedeNullis wrote:
PhilH wrote:Looks like WAFL have rejected the Eagles / Dockers proposal ... suppossed to take six weeks .. they responsed in one,


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/9623537/eagles-dockers-reserves-plan-rejected/

Great result.

The adjacently linked Ross Lewis opinion piece "WA footy risks too much with AFL reserves" makes for interesting reading IMO.




"If a ball had bounced a little differently at the MCG on the last Saturday in September last year the idea might not have been discussed."



"The Magpies have a reserves team playing in the VFL therefore it must be the difference between holding aloft the trophy on grand final night or being among the also-rans.

But what if the ball had landed another way in last year's premiership decider - at least game one - and St Kilda had managed to find a behind that would have reversed the result?
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Hypothetical, of course, but offers a layer of perspective roundly overlooked by many in the "state leagues should learn their place for the good of the game" camp. Alongside, of course, the oft-repeated comparisons with the "fortunes" of other "elite" clubs without dedicated reserves sides over the past 20 years. All this in addition to the much overlooked comparisons with the performances of those AFL clubs with dedicated reserves sides, not just in the VF(A)L.

Geelong's reserves continued in the VF(A)L after the 1999 dismantling of the "AFL Reserves". The AFL side went on to average about 8th in those years prior to the year the number 119 became stuff of sweet dreams for some, nightmares for others.

That Geelong's AFL side are doing well now may well enforce the pro "AFL reserves" argument - for now at least. So, why have Collingwood been able to come to the fore so much more rapidly? Answer that question, then the case made by some proponents that dedicated reserves sides are "the reason" looks all the more simplistic.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:28 pm

Yep very good balanced article, somebody give him Rucci's number.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Barto » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:47 pm

It didn't even get to the WAFL clubs for a vote, the WAFC rejected it anyway, there's too many disadvantages and disruptions for minimal potential benefits. Sensibility rules the day.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby whufc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:53 pm

Barto wrote:It didn't even get to the WAFL clubs for a vote, the WAFC rejected it anyway, there's too many disadvantages and disruptions for minimal potential benefits. Sensibility rules the day.


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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby nickname » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:28 am

Leigh Whicker, in this morning's paper, has rejected the 'AFL Reserves in the SANFL' idea. Pretty much exactly what most of us would have wanted to hear I'd have thought. Interesting that the senior journalist didn't write the story though, after his claim that the AFL chief was thumping the table over this issue.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby sjt » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:32 am

nickname wrote:Leigh Whicker, in this morning's paper, has rejected the 'AFL Reserves in the SANFL' idea. Pretty much exactly what most of us would have wanted to hear I'd have thought. Interesting that the senior journalist didn't write the story though, after his claim that the AFL chief was thumping the table over this issue.


Yes noticed the author also.

A negative article on the AFL reserves potential.
Big surprise it's not written by Rucci. Even mentions Fitzpatrick from the AFL isn't convinced it's the best idea.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/res ... 6080256976
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby saintal » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:35 am

Good to read this on the back page this morning.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Ronnie » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:49 am

So someone within the inner sanctum of the AFL is not keen on the idea.
Thanks for reporting that Capel, your off sider would not have done so.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby redandblack » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:48 pm

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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Barto » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:03 pm

sjt wrote:Even mentions Fitzpatrick from the AFL isn't convinced it's the best idea.


That's a bonus. The Eagles might calm down a bit on the back of that and the fact that they're back in the top 8.
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Hazydog » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:21 pm

sjt wrote:
nickname wrote:Leigh Whicker, in this morning's paper, has rejected the 'AFL Reserves in the SANFL' idea. Pretty much exactly what most of us would have wanted to hear I'd have thought. Interesting that the senior journalist didn't write the story though, after his claim that the AFL chief was thumping the table over this issue.


Yes, the senior journalist seems to have very good sources for these stories doesn't he? I wonder how direct those sources are, particulary given the slant of the articles being produced?
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Re: West Coast/Freo Reserves in WAFL proposal

Postby Barto » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:14 pm

Hazydog wrote:
sjt wrote:
nickname wrote:Leigh Whicker, in this morning's paper, has rejected the 'AFL Reserves in the SANFL' idea. Pretty much exactly what most of us would have wanted to hear I'd have thought. Interesting that the senior journalist didn't write the story though, after his claim that the AFL chief was thumping the table over this issue.


Yes, the senior journalist seems to have very good sources for these stories doesn't he? I wonder how direct those sources are, particulary given the slant of the articles being produced?


Has our favourite 'senior journalist' asked Neil Craig for his thoughts on the reserves proprosal? Didn't think so. ;)
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