Sturt v West Match Review

[Squawk]

Who do you think Sturt will replace Southee and why write your own team off ?

Southee, or Squawk?

IMHO 5th spot is a lottery at the moment and on West's form today (albeit after 7 team changes this week) and vs Norwood the other week, I'm not sure they will hold up as well in the second half of the year as they have in the first half.

Rd 23 could be tantalising with the Bays having a bye (and possibly a farewell dinner for Mark Mickan that weekend), and Sturt playing West. Anything could happen, a bit like the drama between Sturt, West and 5th spot last season for the final month or so.

[southee]

GLENELG !! No they couldn't surely miss with their list . Could they ?

I think they will....we drew with them a few weeks ago and I was not overly impressed by them.

[bloods08]

I had the free kick count at 36-26, Sturt's way.

That doesn't take into account 25m penalties. It also doesn't take into account any number of times play was held up after a free, while players were put back around the mark, or kicks recalled because a player wasn't on the correct spot, or because the kick wasn't taken correctly, or any other reason that some frees seemed to take a long time to actually start moving again in play.

Like waiting for the ABC to catch up. Cost us a goal imo.

[redandblack]

Back on topic, Sturt scored 7 goals from free kicks, including 5 of the first 9.

I think the 'non-call' of a Sturt player jumping into James Ezard's back, forcing his head into the ground, was just one of the amazing decisions of the day. Ezard went off on the blood rule and soon after there was yet another tiggy, soft free for in the back.

I agree with CK, it was so over-umpired as to ruin the game, saved only by Sturt's performance.

After losing 7 players from last weekend, with Scott Blesing not coming up also, to lose Ferguson at half-time and having no bench in the last quarter, a West loss was understandable, but there was no excuse for a thrashing. Brad Fisher and Ryan Anderson also hadn't played for many weeks and were obviously underdone.

As I posted before the game, West had lost most of their midfield, but had a big height advantage. Sturt's midfield dominated as expected, but West's big men hardly fired a shot.

Hansen can kick a footy.

[redandblack]

I had the free kick count at 36-26, Sturt's way.

That doesn't take into account 25m penalties. It also doesn't take into account any number of times play was held up after a free, while players were put back around the mark, or kicks recalled because a player wasn't on the correct spot, or because the kick wasn't taken correctly, or any other reason that some frees seemed to take a long time to actually start moving again in play.

Like waiting for the ABC to catch up. Cost us a goal imo.

Interesting point, bloods08. First time I'd ever noticed that and the game was held up for some time.

[mal]

FIRST QTR

TURNOVERS
WA made about 8 clangers [I include out on the full as turnovers as well as DavenPORTs kick into the man on the mark just b4 qtr time when shooting for goal]
1 of the clangers resulted in a ST goal
ST made 3 turnovers
Skill wise ST were slick , clean, and for too skillful in this term

UMPIRES DECISIONS
ST got a bigger ride than people got on the Adelaide Show Big Wheel
I counted 7 decisions and it favoured ST 6-1
One of these resulted in a ST goal
I have not included the FISHER non one handed mark, which was close to a 50/50 decision

The free kick count at qtr time was
ST 8
WA 6
This is misleading as it was definately one sided

EZARD
As R+ B mentioned , the non free kick to Ezard was amazing
Ezard was pushed in the back by one player, and met head high by another
The push in the back non free kick was a blantant error by the umps
Ezard came of with blood streaming form a sustained wound, from the head high hit, which might have been a free

Hopefully when I see the next 3 qtrs the free kick boo boos even up

[SANFLnut]

Wait until you get to the report of Rankine! It is the single most embarrassing 5 seconds of umpiring since W.G.Grace used to make up his own rules on the cricket field. Sturt player falls over gets caught high by Davenport and the Rankine arrives late on the scene and seems to barely place his hand on the players back as he tries to avoid making contact. The only possible sense I can make is that the umpire was trying to report Davenport for the initial high contact (even though it was caused by Mcleay changing direction and falling over) and reported the wrong player. Horror passage by the ump.

[mal]

2ND QTR SUMMARY

FREES
Plenty of frees paid, some due to the poor tackling execution of the players
The trend continued in the second qtr
ST got the best of it
The FISHER non free kick for a high hit in a pack was a poor miss by the ump on a day when just about every free kick imaginable and more were paid in the 1st half
UMPIRES BOO BOOS
ST 9
WA 1

TOTAL FREES
ST 21
WA 13

TURNOVERS
25 turnovers in a half of footy reflects the poor standard of this game
ST 10
WA 15
THAT Stats guy on ABCTV had the count very similar to mine
3 ST goals resulted from WA boo boos

WA
Seen them 2 weeks in a row
First half v NA , sensational skills and played brilliantly
First half this game , exact opposite
Some good players unavailable has to be a big reason why

GONE GONE GONE
Chad Northsworthy and Jake Myles have quit the ST club
What happened ?

JOHN MCDONALD
18 games only in about 3-4 years at the club
Is this the champ who kicked 4 goals in a final v NW at Adelaide Oval one day
Has he been injured ?


HALF TIME
ST 6-5
WA 3-1

[Jimmy]

JOHN MCDONALD
18 games only in about 3-4 years at the club
Is this the champ who kicked 4 goals in a final v NW at Adelaide Oval one day
Has he been injured ?

not injured, just had a few issues with consistency. hopefully he can continue his good form and the coach can persevere with him. too good to lose to country or ammos so young

[redandblack]

I had the free kick count at 36-26, Sturt's way.

That doesn't take into account 25m penalties. It also doesn't take into account any number of times play was held up after a free, while players were put back around the mark, or kicks recalled because a player wasn't on the correct spot, or because the kick wasn't taken correctly, or any other reason that some frees seemed to take a long time to actually start moving again in play.

Like waiting for the ABC to catch up. Cost us a goal imo.

I've checked this out, bloods.

Nothing to do with the ABC. I didn't think they operated lights to indicate breaks to the umps at SANFL level and that's confirmed.

I think it was just one umpire wanting to be centre-stage on the dey, as usual.

[Big Phil]

Nothing to do with the ABC. I didn't think they operated lights to indicate breaks to the umps at SANFL level and that's confirmed.

I think it was just one umpire wanting to be centre-stage on the dey, as usual.

Yes, they use a green light with the ABC TV game to advise the umpires they can then proceed to bounce the ball. Obviously no ads with the ABC game, it is just to give them enough time to show a replay and comment on the goal that was just kicked.

[Dogwatcher]

I'm not one to comment on umpires, generally.
But I saw a West Adelaide player give a 50 metre penalty, Ezard maybe, in the second half (the little bit I saw of the game).
The Sturt player had marked at about 55 and the West player dragged him down. To me, it was all in the contest and the Sturt player flopped when he felt the Westies player's arm around him.
Just thought I'd ask other people's opinions on that, as I'm used to seeing a less strict line in the SANFL as regards to that sort of thing.
Was there any surprise at the ground that that was a 50?
Are we seeing a tightening up of umpires' interpretations, closer to AFL standards?

[mal]

3RD QUARTER
TURNOVER BOO BOOS
ST 4 [14 match total]
WA 8 [an amazing 23 match total]
It was raining, but WA made plenty of bloopers again
3 WA boo boos resulted in ST goals
7 of the ST 12 goals by 3/4 time came from WA blunders, that is an extraordinary stat for a good team

UMPIRES BOO BOOS
ST 5
WA 5
10 decisions I felt were wrong or bordering on wrong
Even qtr BUT
It cost ST no goals
But WA coughed up 2 goals form the umps

2 decisions were costly
EVANS got a gift for in the back
A WA player was legally tackling Evans, another ST player then shoved the WA player into Evans
The result a ST free kick and the first goal of the qtr

TURNING POINT
ST 7-6
WA 5-2
Somehow WA clawed there way back into the game , on top of an overwhelming possession gain in the 3rd qtr
Then this happened
RILEY takes on WILLETTS and is caught in the possesion of the ball
RILEY drops the ball during the tackle
The ump awarded a free to Riley for holding the man
RILEY kicks a goal
This was the 3rd gift free kick that resulted in a ST goal

3/4 time
ST 12-8
WA 5-5
10 of the ST goals in my opinion a result of WA turnovers and Umpiring decisions which ended up as goals whether in front of goal or passaged from futher back in field play
1 ST boo boo resulted in a WA goal, no umpire boo boos directly resulted into a WA goal at 3/4 time
WA barrackers would have been very very frustrated at 3/4 time


RANKINE
Made a high tackle on Mcleay who slipped just prior to the tackle
High tackles happen many times during a round of football, part and parcel of the game
However
Rankine was reported for his high tackle
What the...
This has to be one of the softest reports of all time
Rankine will not be suspended

[mal]

I'm not one to comment on umpires, generally.
But I saw a West Adelaide player give a 50 metre penalty, Ezard maybe, in the second half (the little bit I saw of the game).
The Sturt player had marked at about 55 and the West player dragged him down. To me, it was all in the contest and the Sturt player flopped when he felt the Westies player's arm around him.
Just thought I'd ask other people's opinions on that, as I'm used to seeing a less strict line in the SANFL as regards to that sort of thing.
Was there any surprise at the ground that that was a 50?
Are we seeing a tightening up of umpires' interpretations, closer to AFL standards?

This is in the last qtr
Thomson[ST] took a mark
Ezard in the contest on impact laid his hand on Thomsons midrift area
Thomson appeared to exergerate the contact and flopped as stated
And the 25 mtr penalty was converted into a goal

Ezard was wearing a head bandage after being pushed and then also met head high in the same play earlier in the game
Ezard was not awarded a free kick
One could understand Ezards frustration with this softish 25m penalty

[Dogwatcher]

Thanks Mal.
And you're right, it was 25 metres.

[mal]

LAST QTR

BOO BOOS
6 each
ST 20 match
WA 29 match

UMP BOO BOOS
ST 4
WA 2

MATCH UMP BOO BOOS
ST 18
WA 8

3/4 TIME COLLINS SAID
"" Stop reacting to the umpires"'
"" Stop looking around everytime the whistle is blown to have a crack at someone.""

TYPIFIED
This happened a few minutes from the end
Ezard possessed the ball, RILEY tackled
Instinctively Ezard tried to avoid the tackle, dropped his head and was tackled high
Riley was awarded a free kick for Ezard holding the ball[others got too high for similar in this match]
Fittingly this typified the day for both players
Riley was gifted some decisions today
Ezard couldnt get a few free kicks on a day when free kicks were given with monotomous regularity

ST 16-10
WA 7-6

RESULT
ST won by too much for the Umps to have changed the result
But the Umps changed the margin
In the end the WA turnovers and the occasional very good ST skills were also result defining

[bloods08]

I had the free kick count at 36-26, Sturt's way.

That doesn't take into account 25m penalties. It also doesn't take into account any number of times play was held up after a free, while players were put back around the mark, or kicks recalled because a player wasn't on the correct spot, or because the kick wasn't taken correctly, or any other reason that some frees seemed to take a long time to actually start moving again in play.

Like waiting for the ABC to catch up. Cost us a goal imo.

I've checked this out, bloods.

Nothing to do with the ABC. I didn't think they operated lights to indicate breaks to the umps at SANFL level and that's confirmed.

I think it was just one umpire wanting to be centre-stage on the dey, as usual.

Yeah CK said the same thing so all good. My apologies to the ABC.

[The Sleeping Giant]

What I have learnt from this game.

Mal has way too much time on his hands.

[Bluedemon]

What I have learnt from this game.

Mal has way too much time on his hands.

and the umpiring hasnt changed.

[redandblack]

Thanks Mal, I found that very interesting and it bears out what I and many Sturt fans thought of the umpiring. I also agree with you it didn't affect the result, but it certainly didn't help West on the day.

I vaguely remember you doing something similar on a West v Sturt(?) game last season and coming up with a similar verdict on the umpires?