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Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Big Phil » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:16 pm

I discovered this spread sheet on the SANFL site form Champion Data today, makes for some interesting reading...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/files/_system/F ... nd%209.pdf
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Baldy » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:31 pm

Just being pedantic but I notice that it is titled "AFL" statistics. I thought the AFL was another branch of Australian Rules Football. Call it a sub branch if you will.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:08 pm

Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby redandblack » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:22 pm

Baldy wrote:Just being pedantic but I notice that it is titled "AFL" statistics. I thought the AFL was another branch of Australian Rules Football. Call it a sub branch if you will.


It's just a Champion Data pro-forma they'd use for AFL games.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby sjt » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:29 pm

Interesting stats. Glenelg most inside fiftys.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:28 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.
Yeah especially the free kick stats. ;)

Looking at Norwood's stats I now have some substance behind when I shout "Kick the bloody thing!"
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Aerie » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:37 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.


Yep, 2nd most goals and they're bottom. Unbelievable!
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:42 pm

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.
Yeah especially the free kick ;)


Lol. Hasn't helped though.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby OnSong » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:46 pm

Aerie wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.


Yep, 2nd most goals and they're bottom. Unbelievable!

2nd most goals yet bottom for inside 50s. Baffling
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:47 pm

how accurate are these stats?
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:57 pm

OnSong wrote:
Aerie wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Good find Big Phil. Too bad it isn't complete, but what stats are available are very interesting. ;)

From those stats, you wouldn't believe North were on the bottom if you hadn't seen the premiership table.


Yep, 2nd most goals and they're bottom. Unbelievable!

2nd most goals yet bottom for inside 50s. Baffling


Talk about making the most of your opportunities.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Big Phil » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:04 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:how accurate are these stats?


Why do you ask mate?

Not as accurate as the stats that the individual club people collate I'd suggest.
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Re: Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby heater31 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:51 pm

Big Phil wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:how accurate are these stats?


Why do you ask mate?

Not as accurate as the stats that the individual club people collate I'd suggest.


Also probably have different interpretations of stats too. IIRC T.Walker was recorded with less tackles by Champion than Norwood's stats team the other week.
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Re: Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Big Phil » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:53 pm

heater31 wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:how accurate are these stats?


Why do you ask mate?

Not as accurate as the stats that the individual club people collate I'd suggest.


Also probably have different interpretations of stats too. IIRC T.Walker was recorded with less tackles by Champion than Norwood's stats team the other week.


100% correct.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Ecky » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:44 pm

I had a quick comparison to our stats, and their clearance stats are very dodgy (an incredibly low 120 for Glenelg compared to 298 recorded by us!) but most of the others are relatively similar, although they tend to miss quite a few handballs (1092 for Glenelg by us vs 1025 recorded by them).

The biggest issue with such comparisons is the possibility of different interpretations by different Champion Data callers. I believe they often have certain people who tend to do the majority of certain team's games.

So for example, if the caller who does Norwood games uses a very strict definition of a tackle, Norwood's tackle numbers will appear to be much lower than other teams, but this may not be because they are tackling less at all.

Also, different callers have different interpretations of what constitutes an inside 50 (for example when a team passes the ball in and out of the 50m line a few times, or whether you include I50 marks from kickins as a new I50).
Hence I wouldn't read too much into any minor differences between teams, but the larger trends are likely to indicate something real.
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby dedja » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:48 pm

:-B
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Big Phil » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:51 pm

dedja wrote: :-B


Hey, I do some stats and I'm not one of them :-B

Neither is Eky you pink / purple shirt wearing so and so :lol:
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby scott » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:41 am

Unless I have made a major error along the line, I have Paul Thomas' statistics as:

Games: 8
Kicks: 150
H/Balls: 53
Disposals: 153
Marks: 60
Tackles: 37
FF: 7
FA: 15
HO: 6
Clearances: 30
Inside 50s: 46
Rebound 50s: 11
Score: 11.6


Yet these Champion stats have Thomas as having played seven games. I'm certain he's played all eight matches??
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby dedja » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:50 am

Big Phil wrote:
dedja wrote: :-B


Hey, I do some stats and I'm not one of them :-B

Neither is Eky you pink / purple shirt wearing so and so :lol:


I'm amazed you can get up to the back of the stands these days ... x_x
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Re: Champion Data Player & Club Statistics

Postby Big Phil » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:07 pm

dedja wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
dedja wrote: :-B


Hey, I do some stats and I'm not one of them :-B

Neither is Eky you pink / purple shirt wearing so and so :lol:


I'm amazed you can get up to the back of the stands these days ... x_x


I do, eventually, it's just I'm out of breath by time I get up there :oops:

Anyway, who asked you ya big metrosexual ;)
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