GSFL Movements

[wristwatcher]

I think 5 years makes a fair statement and still gives the lad a chance to at least one day regain his integrity and respect when he matures into an adult. I do make this judgement without having actually seen the incident and the actual violence or level of intent to harm the official. If it was a jab to the chops then it may have been a brain snap but if he was trying to knock his teeth out then maybe 5 years is not enough. Either way though and regardless of the circumstances anything less than 2 years would be an absolute disgrace. Perhaps life is a little extreme but perhaps life will stop it from ever happening again in our State.

[BAYSRULE]

Hey All.. As you can see from my name I am a Bays supporter... I spoke to the President this morning and he has released the following statement for Footy net:..

In an unfortunate incident yesterday during the Encounter Bay V Mt Compass Senior Colts game at Encounter Bay where three players from both teams were reported the umpires determined that the game would be forfeited in favour of Mt Compass.

The Encounter Bay Football Club deeply regrets being involved in the incident and has determined that the major offending player will be eliminated from the Club. He will no longer play or take any part in any Club activities now or in the future.

The Club also apologises profusely to the Mt Compass Football Club, its players Official, and Supporters for this conduct.

Our sincere apologies must go to the two field umpires and of course our utmost apology to the Umpire that was targeted. They can be assured that this behaviour will not be condoned or tolerated at the Encounter Bay Football Club.

Please accept this as our apology at a Club level.

[A Mum]

Thanks for sharing that statement from your president BR.

I also felt for the bays coach - he sat his players down in the middle of the oval - but what does a coach in that position say to his players.

If what has been quoted by A Mum is true AND the player is proven guilty, as well as a long suspension, probably an anger management course and/or an umpiring course needs to be part of the penalty.

Following on from what JJ said above - and just out of interest/thinking out loud - what are peoples thoughts on this.
Is the GSFL responsible for some form of counselling for the boy?
Is the club responsible for some form of counselling?
Or does it just get dropped?

[field of dreams]

Thanks for that BAYSRULE.

Hard to comment on that without knowing the boys/familys circumstances A Mum, but possibly. He obviously does need some help.

[basket case]

Is violence on the increace in u17s football? The game between Goolwa and Willunga yesterday was a great match to watch, but the fight that happened in the 3rd term was ugly and i was surprised that only one player was reported

[shootstavros]

great night for the Mt Compass @ the bay last night

the Bs won from memory by a couple of goals

the As started slowly and in a tough 1st quarter thought the both sides were playing well

EB 3-3 MC 4-2

second quarter compass started to assert their dominance across the middle and were able to move the ball down the corridor and give the forwards a few more chances

EB 4-4 MC 7-3 (from memory)

third quarter compass pulled away more players around the ball and with ziggy, brokie & young justo created a nice buffer going into the final term

EB 5-7 MC 11-7

compass with the first couple of goals early in the last pretty much killed off the game and with 8 straight for the quarter showed something that has been missing for a few weeks
bays scored 3 late to make the score a little more respectable
must be the coastal air two great wins for compass both at victor and now the bay
looking forward to see if they can keep it up against Yank next week

EB 8-12 MC 19-7

[field of dreams]

Cheers for the details stav. Very good win for Compass. I note Glenelg played yesterday -Did McGregor and Massie play for Bays?

[BAYSRULE]

Cheers for the details stav. Very good win for Compass. I note Glenelg played yesterday -Did McGregor and Massie play for Bays?

No neither Massie or McGregor played however our new recruit Brad Young played... Just a hard day for all at the Bay yesterday.

[LuvsFooty]

Is violence on the increace in u17s football? The game between Goolwa and Willunga yesterday was a great match to watch, but the fight that happened in the 3rd term was ugly and i was surprised that only one player was reported

Best senior colts match I've ever seen, with 2 very physical, fit and highly skilled teams going at it hammer and tongs. This was topped off by what I would consider a high standard of reserves football where Goolwa choked a 2 goal three quarter time lead. In the a grade I saw the premiership favorites in action. With players coming back in, willunga are building momentum. I've wound them in to $2.10 favourites.

Senior colts football is renown for fights, scuffles, brawls and send offs because they are all at an age where flexing their muscles is important. It has been like this and will be like this forever. It's also an age of great frustration because a lot of players get the realization that they are not as good at footy as they thought they were going to be and use late bumps, fighting etc to still have an impact on a game. I must say that the send offs are generally soft, but are handed out to show that the umps are in control of the situation and the fights appear to be worse than they are because all 36 players for some reason want to get involved. Yesterdays fight " looked" ugly but any punches that were thrown were pretty tame. Our lad that came off with a split eye was unlucky, the area above the eye doesnt take much to split

[BAYSRULE]

Thanks for sharing that statement from your president BR.

I also felt for the bays coach - he sat his players down in the middle of the oval - but what does a coach in that position say to his players.

If what has been quoted by A Mum is true AND the player is proven guilty, as well as a long suspension, probably an anger management course and/or an umpiring course needs to be part of the penalty.

Following on from what JJ said above - and just out of interest/thinking out loud - what are peoples thoughts on this.
Is the GSFL responsible for some form of counselling for the boy?
Is the club responsible for some form of counselling?
Or does it just get dropped?

The Bays Senior colts Coach is a fantastic guy.. Has put LOADS of time and effort into the boys.. I too feel for him...

[neverwas neverwillbe]

Thanks for sharing that statement from your president BR.

I also felt for the bays coach - he sat his players down in the middle of the oval - but what does a coach in that position say to his players.

If what has been quoted by A Mum is true AND the player is proven guilty, as well as a long suspension, probably an anger management course and/or an umpiring course needs to be part of the penalty.

Following on from what JJ said above - and just out of interest/thinking out loud - what are peoples thoughts on this.
Is the GSFL responsible for some form of counselling for the boy?
Is the club responsible for some form of counselling?
Or does it just get dropped?

Not the club's fault about the lads actions. He needs to cop it on the chin from the tribunal and then it should be up to his parents to sort him out. No club should have to put up with anything like this and let's hope it doesn't taint the Bays or the league.

[BAYSRULE]

Thanks for sharing that statement from your president BR.

I also felt for the bays coach - he sat his players down in the middle of the oval - but what does a coach in that position say to his players.

If what has been quoted by A Mum is true AND the player is proven guilty, as well as a long suspension, probably an anger management course and/or an umpiring course needs to be part of the penalty.

Following on from what JJ said above - and just out of interest/thinking out loud - what are peoples thoughts on this.
Is the GSFL responsible for some form of counselling for the boy?
Is the club responsible for some form of counselling?
Or does it just get dropped?

Not the club's fault about the lads actions. He needs to cop it on the chin from the tribunal and then it should be up to his parents to sort him out. No club should have to put up with anything like this and let's hope it doesn't taint the Bays or the league.

Excellent... post.. I totally agree as I would if it was another club also other than my club...

[jackpot jim]

Is violence on the increace in u17s football? The game between Goolwa and Willunga yesterday was a great match to watch, but the fight that happened in the 3rd term was ugly and i was surprised that only one player was reported

Wouldn't have thought so. i've watched a lot of u/17 footy from close qtrs in the last 3 - 4 years and have actually been pretty impressed with the discipline of most of the players and the respect they've shown for the umps by just getting on with the game even if they didn't agree with the decision. As for any physical confrontations betwen players, from what i've seen, incidents have been few and far between but then again i only get to see 20% of the games.

[basket case]

LUVSFOOTY AND JACKPOT JIM

Yes i agree with you yestersday game was a display of tough hard football and i was not having a go at the clubs ,it was the first u17s game i have seen this season and was just asking the question and i thank you both for answering it

[tatts]

LUVSFOOTY AND JACKPOT JIM

Yes i agree with you yestersday game was a display of tough hard football and i was not having a go at the clubs ,it was the first u17s game i have seen this season and was just asking the question and i thank you both for answering it

U17s footy is a great comp and fights do happen in our game as it is a contact sport.I think to suggest is it getting out of hand ,maqybe a bit reactive to what has happened over the weekend.
I have only heard 3rd hand about the incident with the umpire getting whacked but there really is no excuse for that.Dicipline is every thing at this level so coaches and clubs need to reinforce this constantly.Undiciplined footballers let you down,thats a fact.What i do hope for this lad is that he fronts the umpire involved with his coach and club president and apologises face to face to this person,i think that would be a good start to this lad proving he has some good in him and take ownership for his actions.Just suspending him for however long and discarding him is not the right thing to do,i hope his club keeps him involved and helps him thru this,footy clubs are a great place for kids to become men and for some who may have it tough outside of footy its a great place to feel cared about.Isay help this lad thru this,give him whatever suspension,a hefty one at that but also help him.The umpire involved seems to have been forgotten in my rant here but he hasn;t,i hope this bloke firstly is ok and not hurt to much,2nd i hope he continues to umpire as umpires are hard to get and even harder to keep,3rd i hope we have something in place for this bloke e.g some councelling to make sure he is handling it ok .

[bluebagger]

Cheers for the details A Mum.

Ban the player for LIFE.... anything less is not good enough! Punching an umpire is probably the lowest thing possible in football and is made even worse that it was a Colt that did it. No excuses should be made.. End of story!!!

I agree entirely T83. I know there are all sorts of reasons someone can snap (my a son has a condtion that can lead to meltdowns on occasion), but I still believe there are no mitigating circumstances that should reduce the penalty. As much as we love to give the umpires stick, they have the right to know they are safe and if something like this does happen then those in charge need to do everything in their power to stamp it out. Many umpires at that level are just kids themselves (I believe this was an adult though).

I also heard that the player later tried to get into the umpires room to take it further.

An under 17 player in the Central Murray league in Victoria walked into the umpires room after a trail game and threatened to punch the umpires lights out. The player received a 25 yr ban from not only playing but also attending any VCFL matches.
So i think the YOUNG ADULT from the Bays is in a bit of trouble.

[finn]

The saafl have in place that if a player is suspended for 12 matches or above (over a certain period of time), they are deregistered from the league (and have to serve their suspension before being able to register in other competitions). This, in conjunction with clubs no longer tolerating thuggery have dramatically improved the level of on-field violence.

I'd personally like to see a sentence that's long enough to leave an indelible impression but one that enables him to get back when more mature so a minimum 5-7 years. This would incorporate a suspended sentence as well meaning that any further indiscretions towards umpires would lead to lifetime suspension from all registered leagues.
Yes, senior colts may be young adults but they're still considered too young to vote and to be tried as a an adult. I'd also like to see them be encouraged to take up umpiring to see the other side; whether this at a primary school level is moot.

Certainly anybody over 18 who hits an umpire should be gone for good.

[limb]

Does anyone know when the tribunal will be convening to discuss the fate of the young fella from Encounter Bay? Do they normally do it on Wednesday nights??

[neverwas neverwillbe]

Does anyone know when the tribunal will be convening to discuss the fate of the young fella from Encounter Bay? Do they normally do it on Wednesday nights??

Tuesday nights from memory.

[field of dreams]

I hear the Umpire is quitting - which is exactly why there needs to be a strong message sent about this. Apparently the signs have been there for a while for this lad.