GSFL Movements

[limb]

ENCOUNTER BAY LANGHORNE CREEK Heuskes, Adam Pending 26/05/11

More money than sense ?????

they are such a pathetic club. already with points players in their reserves. Well they have tried to buy flags in the past so lets all watch them crash and burn again this year.

Seriously, what is pathetic about getting players to your club? I like the way clubs are recruiting above their points allocation. This means players who are worth points need to earn their keep, especially when it seems to be about cash theses days. On that note name me a club that in some aspect is not "buying a premiership" as people put it. The reality is you need to spend to recruit and recruits = points. Its just how it is in footy right now. Lets get off clubs for trying to better themselves and start talking footy!

i can definately see where you are coming from, however i know the creeks have a lot of solid Juniors having just come up from last years GF team and as a club would you not prefer to see your home grown talent gaining experience - guys who have been there since U/8's and will finish their careers there...... rather then getting in guys who will be there for 2 years max and then get a better offer? plenty of guys cleared outta creek this year due to the fact they were not even gonna get considered for A grade this year..... but i agree if you want to be successful you must have some imported talent.

you've obviously got no idea..

first of all - 6 of last year's senior colts have played a grade already this year and there's another 3 or 4 that have been doing well in the B Grade.. and as for Adam Heuskes, he's moved into a house about 300m from Langhorne Creek Oval and has been helping out with some one on one coaching with some of our juniors and recently put his hand up to help out in the B's who have been struggling for numbers. I think the bloke should be congratulated for trying to help out his new local club rather than be criticised on a public forum by ill informed people, give him a break.

[bays10]

they are such a pathetic club. already with points players in their reserves. Well they have tried to buy flags in the past so lets all watch them crash and burn again this year.

Seriously, what is pathetic about getting players to your club? I like the way clubs are recruiting above their points allocation. This means players who are worth points need to earn their keep, especially when it seems to be about cash theses days. On that note name me a club that in some aspect is not "buying a premiership" as people put it. The reality is you need to spend to recruit and recruits = points. Its just how it is in footy right now. Lets get off clubs for trying to better themselves and start talking footy!

i can definately see where you are coming from, however i know the creeks have a lot of solid Juniors having just come up from last years GF team and as a club would you not prefer to see your home grown talent gaining experience - guys who have been there since U/8's and will finish their careers there...... rather then getting in guys who will be there for 2 years max and then get a better offer? plenty of guys cleared outta creek this year due to the fact they were not even gonna get considered for A grade this year..... but i agree if you want to be successful you must have some imported talent.

you've obviously got no idea..

first of all - 6 of last year's senior colts have played a grade already this year and there's another 3 or 4 that have been doing well in the B Grade.. and as for Adam Heuskes, he's moved into a house about 300m from Langhorne Creek Oval and has been helping out with some one on one coaching with some of our juniors and recently put his hand up to help out in the B's who have been struggling for numbers. I think the bloke should be congratulated for trying to help out his new local club rather than be criticised on a public forum by ill informed people, give him a break.

heuskes is a great bloke and will be a great asset to the club, the guy is probably finished as far as A grade football goes due to injury and as Limb has stated the club has done well to attract him to help out in the b grade and coaching. His experience is invaluable, when he was at the bays he gave blokes a lot of confidence and some of the younger blokes playing A grade now wouldnt have if it wasnt for him and his mentoring. I think the creeks are heading in the right direction, although it has cost them $$$ they now have a great A grade team who will probably win a premiership and I think this shows the direction country football needs to head, bays are slowly getting on board and if you compare our recruiting this year to any other year it shows and it will continue to grow. If anything its great it gets rid of all the wankers who rock up everynow and then wanting a game and makes people commit to training and develop as a club.

[Panther32]

Seriously, what is pathetic about getting players to your club? I like the way clubs are recruiting above their points allocation. This means players who are worth points need to earn their keep, especially when it seems to be about cash theses days. On that note name me a club that in some aspect is not "buying a premiership" as people put it. The reality is you need to spend to recruit and recruits = points. Its just how it is in footy right now. Lets get off clubs for trying to better themselves and start talking footy!

i can definately see where you are coming from, however i know the creeks have a lot of solid Juniors having just come up from last years GF team and as a club would you not prefer to see your home grown talent gaining experience - guys who have been there since U/8's and will finish their careers there...... rather then getting in guys who will be there for 2 years max and then get a better offer? plenty of guys cleared outta creek this year due to the fact they were not even gonna get considered for A grade this year..... but i agree if you want to be successful you must have some imported talent.

you've obviously got no idea..

first of all - 6 of last year's senior colts have played a grade already this year and there's another 3 or 4 that have been doing well in the B Grade.. and as for Adam Heuskes, he's moved into a house about 300m from Langhorne Creek Oval and has been helping out with some one on one coaching with some of our juniors and recently put his hand up to help out in the B's who have been struggling for numbers. I think the bloke should be congratulated for trying to help out his new local club rather than be criticised on a public forum by ill informed people, give him a break.

heuskes is a great bloke and will be a great asset to the club, the guy is probably finished as far as A grade football goes due to injury and as Limb has stated the club has done well to attract him to help out in the b grade and coaching. His experience is invaluable, when he was at the bays he gave blokes a lot of confidence and some of the younger blokes playing A grade now wouldnt have if it wasnt for him and his mentoring. I think the creeks are heading in the right direction, although it has cost them $$$ they now have a great A grade team who will probably win a premiership and I think this shows the direction country football needs to head, bays are slowly getting on board and if you compare our recruiting this year to any other year it shows and it will continue to grow. If anything its great it gets rid of all the wankers who rock up everynow and then wanting a game and makes people commit to training and develop as a club.

Couldn't agree more with Bays on this one. Adam with all his past is a fantastic bloke and is amazing around the club. His leadership and his experience is invaluable and any club that has him on board will benefit from it.

[field of dreams]

Thanks for the info limb.
I reckon if people were keener to share a bit about what is going on at their clubs, perhaps it would short-cut some of the bagging or jumping to conclusions that occurs. It seems people are scared to post or can't be stuffed any more. Not meant to be aimed at you limb, but it is a good example of the sort of info about a guy helping out a club that should be shared IMO. It is good for him, the club and the League in general.

Well done to Heuskes for getting involved. I saw him play a game in his last year for Bays against Victor - his shoulder/arm was completely buggered but he stayed out there and gave it his absolute all in obvious pain. When recruits get bagged so often for just being there for the cash so often it was great to see a guy committed like that. Will be an asset to Creeks I'm sure.

In regard to the whole recruiting/paying etc etc, the simple fact is most clubs have to do so to be competitive. Mainly as we have large variance in potential catchment of local players between clubs. Willunga have been very dominant with what seems like a stable, relatively local playing group. It has given the rest of the league something to aim for, but most simply cannot do so without imports. Getting the balance of local/recruits isn’t easy though - it can lead to internal problems and local fringe A-graders move on which is unfortunate.

Each club obviously has a different ideology and that doesn’t necessarily sit well with other clubs, but that will always occur. I have been on both sides of the fence, playing for Victor in the late 80’s struggling towards the bottom of the ladder against other clubs with imports, then in the 90s I was a local player in a dominant team with plenty of recruits. I was tarred with the same brush - everyone just assumed I was a paid import as I hadn’t lived in Victor since Colts (as had some of my teammates). My opinion is we did our recruiting very wisely whilst the rest of the league hated us I’m sure.

Conversely, this year Victor had the chance to secure a former player (a very good, well liked player that would be 0 points to us), the club decided not to because we were not prepared at this stage to go down the line that other clubs in the state have. He is now playing for another side in the league – it was a shame to see him in another guernsey, but I’m glad the club made the right call it did for us. Personally, I don’t think having guys flying in from interstate is the right way to go about strengthening a club, but we all know what they say about opinions!

[BAYSRULE]

Firstly Heuskes is a great bloke.. Shame he didnt hang around the Bay for another year... He would be 36 this year I reccon and I think that maybe and with all of his injury woes he wouldnt even try and play A Grade for the Creek.. Not sure where he would fit anyway...
But Funny as it is FIELD OF DREAMS - I find it hard to believe you watched him LAST year... He didnt play for the Bays last year.... AND its funnier about the clearance as he shouldn't even be EBAY's to clear as he played up north last year... He was cleared to either Hornridge or Olympic Dam or Roxby.... So theres another couple of issues for you...

[words of wisdom]

Good on the creeks if you can get extra footballers this time of year. Also the Creeks haven't finished recruiting yet, hey Limb??

[field of dreams]

But Funny as it is FIELD OF DREAMS - I find it hard to believe you watched him LAST year... He didnt play for the Bays last year....

Hi BAYSRULE - welcome to the forum. Nice first post - perhaps go back and have another read of what I said. In fact I'll quote it for you:

I saw him play a game in his last year for Bays against Victor

I'm not actually sure that it was his last year but I think so.

Ps: It was Hornridge.

[That Old Chestnut]

Victor finally played 4 quarters of footy today which was nice. Controlled the game for the most part after quarter time. Lee Saunders back in full flight in the midfield and Tarquin Brown held Ben Warren well.

Can anyone shed any light on what happened at Encounter Bay in the senior colts today. I was told there was an incident between an EB player and the umpire?

[A Mum]

The incident unfolded as such:

There was a 'scuffle/fight' in the senior colts-
3 x players yellow carded - 1 x Mt Compass / 2 x Enc Bay.
One of the EB players 'dawdled' off the field.
He and the umpire exchanging words.
The EB player then spat at the umpires feet - quite intentionally.
The umpire changed his card to red.
The EB player decided to 'punch' the umpire.
The umpire immediately called the game off awarding it to Mt Compass.

Definitely not something you like to see - especially in an U17 game - even the Encounter Bay people near us were horrified.
Can't see the GSFL looking at this too lightly.

[That Old Chestnut]

The incident unfolded as such:

There was a 'scuffle/fight' in the senior colts-
3 x players yellow carded - 1 x Mt Compass / 2 x Enc Bay.
One of the EB players 'dawdled' off the field.
He and the umpire exchanging words.
The EB player then spat at the umpires feet - quite intentionally.
The umpire changed his card to red.
The EB player decided to 'punch' the umpire.
The umpire immediately called the game off awarding it to Mt Compass.

Definitely not something you like to see - especially in an U17 game - even the Encounter Bay people near us were horrified.
Can't see the GSFL looking at this too lightly.

Thanks A Mum, i was told a player punched an umpire but i thought someone was just exaggerating. Pretty ordinary form. That player should be gone for the rest of the year at least IMO. How about an 'A grade' score A mum?

[A Mum]

We left at the start of the first quarter in the A's - sorry can't help with that one.

[-Outsider-]

The incident unfolded as such:

There was a 'scuffle/fight' in the senior colts-
3 x players yellow carded - 1 x Mt Compass / 2 x Enc Bay.
One of the EB players 'dawdled' off the field.
He and the umpire exchanging words.
The EB player then spat at the umpires feet - quite intentionally.
The umpire changed his card to red.
The EB player decided to 'punch' the umpire.
The umpire immediately called the game off awarding it to Mt Compass.

Definitely not something you like to see - especially in an U17 game - even the Encounter Bay people near us were horrified.
Can't see the GSFL looking at this too lightly.

What quarter.. was the game already over? if exactly how you put it the player needs to be told he's no longer required for atleast the rest of this season

[A Mum]

Roughly 10 minutes into the first quarter.

[Tiger83]

Ban the player for LIFE.... anything less is not good enough! Punching an umpire is probably the lowest thing possible in football and is made even worse that it was a Colt that did it. No excuses should be made.. End of story!!!

[hamish]

What are you guys talking about spitting,then punching an umpire and only getting the season what crap.
He should get at least 3 years its time to send players a strong message that umpires are not to be touched in any way ,GSFL excutive time to get some balls and make this young MAN an example of what happens when you strike an umpire

[jackpot jim]

If what has been quoted by A Mum is true AND the player is proven guilty, as well as a long suspension, probably an anger management course and/or an umpiring course needs to be part of the penalty.

[words of wisdom]

Ban the player for LIFE.... anything less is not good enough! Punching an umpire is probably the lowest thing possible in football and is made even worse that it was a Colt that did it. No excuses should be made.. End of story!!!

The thing that makes our comp so good is that this crap doesn't happen. The Bays should send this kid packing, not a good look for a club that is on the way up.
10 years minimum but should be life. No 2nd chances for this. I can only remember one incident involving a player & ump in the 20 years i've been involved. He got 25 games for ripping the umps badge of his shirt but this is far more serious.

[field of dreams]

Cheers for the details A Mum.

Ban the player for LIFE.... anything less is not good enough! Punching an umpire is probably the lowest thing possible in football and is made even worse that it was a Colt that did it. No excuses should be made.. End of story!!!

I agree entirely T83. I know there are all sorts of reasons someone can snap (my a son has a condtion that can lead to meltdowns on occasion), but I still believe there are no mitigating circumstances that should reduce the penalty. As much as we love to give the umpires stick, they have the right to know they are safe and if something like this does happen then those in charge need to do everything in their power to stamp it out. Many umpires at that level are just kids themselves (I believe this was an adult though).

I also heard that the player later tried to get into the umpires room to take it further.

[-Outsider-]

What are you guys talking about spitting,then punching an umpire and only getting the season what crap.
He should get at least 3 years its time to send players a strong message that umpires are not to be touched in any way ,GSFL excutive time to get some balls and make this young MAN an example of what happens when you strike an umpire

I did say 'atleast' the rest of the season. If i had it my way he wouldn't play football again

[field of dreams]

Victor finally played 4 quarters of footy today which was nice. Controlled the game for the most part after quarter time. Lee Saunders back in full flight in the midfield and Tarquin Brown held Ben Warren well.

Was a great game to watch (well good, made better by the result). 2 late changes to the Victor side (1 leading to Tozer playing 3 quarters of B's too) wasnt a good start but Victor came to play.

Despite the score board showing Victor in front by 1 point at quarter time, I felt Victor had the best of the first quarter too but Creeks were able to score their 3 goals easier with quick transfers of play. Hannemann did a great job in ruck against Feast despite the height disadvantage, running around Feast's premature jumping and by the final term was jumping over the top of him too.

The game was won in the second in the second quarter with Victor on top in the centre - 6 unanswered goals before Creeks finally converted after some costly misses. All that preparation has paid off for Saunders who was instrumental in winning stoppages and getting the ball forward.

Creek hit back hard in the third, getting within 14 points before 2 late goals to Victor saw the margin at 26 points at the final change. The last quarter was a close affair with Victor running out winnners by 31 points. Saunders and Brown were Victors 2 best IMO with many other contributers which will please Simmo. McGregor was best for Creeks with his pace a highlight of the game - Not sure how he has been going in other games but after seeing him in action I think he is my tip for the mail medal. Umpires will notice that pace, flair and skill (even took a ripper of a high mark).

Anyone got a score from the Compass v Bays game?