Round 9 Glenelg v Eagles Review

[Dirko]

Very lazy football by the Bays today. Just didn't work hard enough.

Full kudos to the LPR's, they came to play as a team and did such.

I thought Cornes was good. Showed more passion for the jumper then some of his team mates that's for sure.

Being who he is, makes him a easy target for opposition supporters to bag out. I'd have him in the the Bays side any week.

And LEH....gefugged

[cje]

eagles too good some of our guys dont look interested
our best kirkby cornes panozzo as for some our supporters blaming
umpires what are you smoking i seriously want some of that sh#t
over the course of the match umpires made less mistakes than our players
thought t.grimma looked better in defence than he has all season up forward

[puppet arms]

thought Cornes was pretty handy to be honest. Yep, he fumbled a couple of times which was disappointing but overall he was one of our better players. Everyone watches out for him because of his profile so any mistakes get noticed more than most. There were plenty of other senior players out there that deserve criticism before Chad.

For what it's worth I thougt the Eags got a reasonable run with the umpires early on but most of the kicks they got were from undisciplined acts by the tigers. And to be fair we probably got a couple of suspect kicks later in the game. It certainly didn't decide the game. They wanted it a lot more than we did. The final margin flattered us.

[LPH]

Who's Grimma??? Do you mean Grima LEH? If so, which one? Please explain why which ever Grima you're talking about is a front runner? Mickan on borrowed time? You won by 4 goals, the same amount gifted to you in the first quarter. Cornes should retire asap??? You're a deadset knucklehead.

1. 'Grima' - Todd... NEVER performs in tough, hard games - his Finals record is poor
Front Runner, meaning he likes it all his own way, refuses to work hard enough for the HARD ball, looks for frees when challenged physically

2. If you think that Micken is 'safe' in his job, @ a club with a history only 2nd to South in terms of sacking coaches in the past 20 years, then you are dreaming. You can't win a finals game (let alone a GF) & I am sure that unless you make this year's GF, Mickan will be gone - time will tell.

3. Those goals that were 'gifted' as you say, were a result of indisiplined acts by players who should know better @ the start of an important game - that's a coaching issue IMHO. You don't see a side coached by Roy Laird do that!

4. As for Cornes - he appears to be hashly treated by his Evil Overlords from Warfie Land. As a result, I believe it is somewhat sad that such a good player is forced to finish his career playing in a team that he doesn't really want to be in - only my opinion.

BTW, the game was OVER @ half time. The final margin was immaterial - The Bays were always going to come back in the final term, afterall they'd done NOTHING all day.
Mate, by all means resort to 'name calling' if you must but the fact is WWTFC gave you a lesson in hard, in close footy yesterday & the Bays (& Mickan) would do well to take note.
Unless you improve that part of your team, then I am afraid you will continue to go out in Finals without a whimper year after year.

[Dirko]

4. As for Cornes - he appears to be hashly treated by his Evil Overlords from Warfie Land. As a result, I believe it is somewhat sad that such a good player is forced to finish his career playing in a team that he doesn't really want to be in - only my opinion.

Glad that's your opinion, because it's so far off the mark it's laughable.

Ask any Glenelg official, trainer, player, on Cornesy's approach & attitude to playing at the Bay, and you'll understand why we love him wearing the Number 12.

1. 'Grima' - Todd... NEVER performs in tough, hard games - his Finals record is poor
Front Runner, meaning he likes it all his own way, refuses to work hard enough for the HARD ball, looks for frees when challenged physically

Hard to perform when the ball coming in is purely crap. Todd busts his arse every week, which people who don't go to Glenelg games every week miss. Once again because is name is "familiar" much easier to pot shot a bloke, then to pick on a kid you've never heard of. But that's my opinion. Thought hisstint in defence yesterday on Groeke was good.

[LPH]

SJ, where would he rather have been yesterday, do you think - Glenelg or Darwin?

I think it is admirable that he is trying his best @ Glenelg, but seriously, it would only be because he wants to be playing @ Port, NOT because he wants to win a flag with your lot.

Further, it is FAR easier for Grima to play back than forward (Day is living proof!).
IMO he doesn't work hard enough in attack.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Chad and Kane are finished at AFL level IMO. Both will be handy for the Bays next year though. Surely they will both want to be premiership players at the Bay like father.

[Aerie]

The Eagles were sharp yesterday. That was as good as I've seen them play in the first half in terms of skill, in particular the marking around the ground and kicking.

Led by Parry and with Vince in the side, Lewis and Goldsworthy playing the best footy of his career (because he is getting an extended run on the ball) there was too much midfield firepower for the Eagles. McKenzie was controlling the half back line and even with Grieger missing for a large chunk of the game only Kirkby was dangerous in Glenelg's forward line.

Staple started very well. Looks to be playing with real confidence, taking strong grabs out in front and seems to be willing to keep his feet more often, which is ultra important at half forward.

Vince, Parry, Lewis, Goldsworthy and McKenzie my best for the Eagles.

I thought 3 weeks ago if we could get through 2-1 against Central, West and Glenelg we'd be looking good. That has happened and now a real chance to cement a spot at the top of the table over the next two weeks before the bye.

[JK]

The Eagles were sharp yesterday. That was as good as I've seen them play in the first half in terms of skill, in particular the marking around the ground and kicking.

The beauty of the consistently good teams (ie, Central and Eagles of the past however many years), is that regardless of the personnel available to them, they nearly always bring a fierce intensity to their game, and for many clubs thats half the battle.

[The Apostle]

If you think that Micken is 'safe' in his job, @ a club with a history only 2nd to South in terms of sacking coaches in the past 20 years, then you are dreaming. You can't win a finals game (let alone a GF) & I am sure that unless you make this year's GF, Mickan will be gone - time will tell.

He is gone except Glenelg can't afford to pay out his contract...

[Adelaide Hawk]

If you think that Micken is 'safe' in his job, @ a club with a history only 2nd to South in terms of sacking coaches in the past 20 years, then you are dreaming. You can't win a finals game (let alone a GF) & I am sure that unless you make this year's GF, Mickan will be gone - time will tell.

He is gone except Glenelg can't afford to pay out his contract...

And you know this because?

[Dutchy]

If you think that Micken is 'safe' in his job, @ a club with a history only 2nd to South in terms of sacking coaches in the past 20 years, then you are dreaming. You can't win a finals game (let alone a GF) & I am sure that unless you make this year's GF, Mickan will be gone - time will tell.

He is gone except Glenelg can't afford to pay out his contract...

So your telling me he Glenelg arent paying him this year?

[The Apostle]

If you think that Micken is 'safe' in his job, @ a club with a history only 2nd to South in terms of sacking coaches in the past 20 years, then you are dreaming. You can't win a finals game (let alone a GF) & I am sure that unless you make this year's GF, Mickan will be gone - time will tell.

He is gone except Glenelg can't afford to pay out his contract...

So your telling me he Glenelg arent paying him this year?

No, I didn't say that. I'm saying that at the end of last year, after another finals implosion, the Glenelg board wanted to sack Mickan but couldn't as they didn't have enough money in the bank to pay out his contract and get another coach in to coach this year.

[Dutchy]

There is some semblence of truth in what you are saying but not having the $ is completely incorrect.

[bayman]

well i went today expecting a win because i thought we had pretty much a full strength team & wwt were missing quality players such as cicca & salter etc, approaching time-on i said to my brother we're lucky it's 1.2.8 a piece as wwt were clearly on top (he agreed) & by 1/4 time we were 26 points down, the 2nd term was much the same & they got to a 46 point lead, what annoyed me (not just today) was the distinct lack of spark & intensity during the first half, after half time despite the poor kicking at goal the effort was there & players were starting to run around trying to create opportunities, to the last the run & goalscoring was there but as mentioned by most after the round 1 win that we wont be able to do that against the better teams, during that second half while mistakes & overuse of the ball occured at least they didn't give in & tried to get back into the game...boys it is a lot easier to do this by running from the start of the game than giving away huge starts :wink: i thought kirkby & macmahon were the best by a country mile & i was a little surprised the club gave an award to one player as i thought murphy would be his replacement next week

as for the umpiring, well it wasn't great & wwt seemed to got a few more 'iffy' frees but we we made a lot more mistakes than they did & i'll add i'm sure one of the umps barracks for the crows because bernie vince was awarded 2 marks one was clearly spoilt while a diving mark in the north-western pocket looked doubtful to me & going on reactions of players it must've bounced

curtis deboy has been giving most supporters the sh1ts since he started umpiring well today he didn't umpire because he was home with a 'gastro complaint'

todays game tells me that we are a fair way behind the top 2 or 3 teams & while improvement can be made i can't see us doing any damage later on in the year


bottom line is unless there is an improvement we will just be making up the numbers presuming we make the 5 in the first place

[Premiers]

I'm saying this as an Eagles supporter:
There are a couple of Eagles supporters on this site who need to "pull their head in"
Firstly, with our lack of key forwards, Godden would welcome Chad Cornes into our team in a flash. I thought his second half yesterday was very good.
Secondly, Glenelg are going to have Chad Cornes available for the Finals - we're not going to have Bernie Vince and Bernie's input was considerable yesterday.
Man for man, the Bays had more talent and as good a team structure, we had the intensity and intensity is a "strange thing". It wasn't there for the Eagles against Sturt when we got rolled by 70 points nor 2 weeks ago against Centrals.
So, enjoy your day "in the sun" but arrogance has a karma.

[Aerie]

Man for man, the Bays had more talent and as good a team structure...

Not sure how you deduced that from yesterdays game?

[on the rails]

The Eagles were sharp yesterday. That was as good as I've seen them play in the first half in terms of skill, in particular the marking around the ground and kicking.

The beauty of the consistently good teams (ie, Central and Eagles of the past however many years), is that regardless of the personnel available to them, they nearly always bring a fierce intensity to their game, and for many clubs thats half the battle.

Bingo - spot on CP. I watched the game yesterday and the Eagles were very impressive given their massive injury list.

Only 2nd time seeing the Bays this year and there is something wrong - they just don't look like they are firing on all cylinders which is surprising because they have a good list? Cranston seems not as dominant this year as in the past, Rudolph looks out of sorts (may lost his power when his dreadlocks went?) Ty Allen still looks underdone after his injury and Mules looks not as confident and "pack busting" as in the past.

Kirkby was very good - especially in 1st half played a virtual lone hand up fwd. Chad Cornes went ok - he does bust his gut and play with passion and despite the Power winning I still can't work out how he can not be considered to be in their best 22???

[Tiger Couple]

I think you have no idea at all on what you are talking about and what you saw yesturday.
1. Can't argue that Todd hasn't had a great finals record but his work rate in chasing tackling and forward pressure would be 2nd to none this season from any key forward. Even looked good down back in the 2nd half Saturday.

3. Umpires were ordinary both ways but some of those early free kicks a couple Eagles players dived to ground quicker than a seagul stealing a hot chip.

4.Cornes is Tigers through and through and is playing with passion for the Jumper amd wants to give back to the club that gave him his pathway to AFL.

As for the game was over at half time you clearly have little idea about the game. Glenelg had 15 scoring shot to 7 in the second half and if not for the fact we kicked 0.7 in the 3rd qtr i think Glenelg would have won the game by 3 or 4 goals if we had of kicked straight.

Having said that we didn't and the Eagles got the win because they kicked straight and put scoreboard pressure on.

1. 'Grima' - Todd... NEVER performs in tough, hard games - his Finals record is poor
Front Runner, meaning he likes it all his own way, refuses to work hard enough for the HARD ball, looks for frees when challenged physically

3. Those goals that were 'gifted' as you say, were a result of indisiplined acts by players who should know better @ the start of an important game - that's a coaching issue IMHO. You don't see a side coached by Roy Laird do that!

4. As for Cornes - he appears to be hashly treated by his Evil Overlords from Warfie Land. As a result, I believe it is somewhat sad that such a good player is forced to finish his career playing in a team that he doesn't really want to be in - only my opinion.

BTW, the game was OVER @ half time. The final margin was immaterial - The Bays were always going to come back in the final term, afterall they'd done NOTHING all day.
Mate, by all means resort to 'name calling' if you must but the fact is WWTFC gave you a lesson in hard, in close footy yesterday & the Bays (& Mickan) would do well to take note.
Unless you improve that part of your team, then I am afraid you will continue to go out in Finals without a whimper year after year.

[ferret]

Punter your theory doesn't hold up. I say then, that if all the Eagles points were goals, and the same for the Tigers, the Eagles would have won 27 goals to 24 goals. Does it really matter when the points are kicked.........it just looks worse when so many are kicked in a row. Same thing happened to the Eagles the week before when they kicked 6 points in a row against West. In the end the Tigers only kicked one more point than the Eagles. There is a saying, "If my aunty had ..............etc etc.