GSFL Movements

[Old Blue New Tiger]

Have heard that Jacob Braizier from Yank is having a very consistent year across HB. Only a youngster and probably hasn't got the name out there yet , but might surprise.

[live_for_footy]

im pretty sure i said back in feb that goolwa would be no good and that encounter bay would surprise . correct

having seen goolwa a few weeks ago how they are winless has me gobsmacked. they are such an improved unit - well done to the club. They seem to play really good footy vs the really good sides and against the teams they should be beating appear to come undone - a new playing group will take time to develop. They will improve more and more this season.

[LuvsFooty]

Looks like I am picking on Encounter Bay, but I have had it pointed out to me that the Encounter Bay's A Grade percentage is incorrect. It took a big jump after a loss to the Creek which drew it to attention. They are being credited with 432 points for and 330 against, the against figure should read 428 which alters the percentage dramatically (currently 56.69, should be 50.23). Is this a league error or sporting pulse glitch? Might be worth sorting now before we get to round 18 because there will be plenty fighting for those finals spots where percentage could be vital. This could be the case for other teams in all grades as well. Any body feel like doing an audit?

[A Mum]

Looks like I am picking on Encounter Bay, but I have had it pointed out to me that the Encounter Bay's A Grade percentage is incorrect. It took a big jump after a loss to the Creek which drew it to attention. They are being credited with 432 points for and 330 against, the against figure should read 428 which alters the percentage dramatically (currently 56.69, should be 50.23). Is this a league error or sporting pulse glitch? Might be worth sorting now before we get to round 18 because there will be plenty fighting for those finals spots where percentage could be vital. This could be the case for other teams in all grades as well. Any body feel like doing an audit?

Field of Dreams?

[field of dreams]

What are you trying to say A Mum

It has to do with Yanks breach of the points system. I looked into the percentages when Yank lost their points and I believe it is correct.

On sportingpulse it say the following about the points system:

8. Penalties
The following automatic penalties will be imposed for breaching the APPS (exceeding club/team allocated points):
1) In the event of a win for the breaching side – loss of match premiership points, nil scored points allocated to clubs score, plus a maximum fine of $1,000.00.
2) In the event of a loss for the breaching side – nil scored points allocated to clubs score, plus a maximum fine of $1,000.00.

So nil points for the clubs score – I guess this could be interpreted 2 ways, the points scored by Yank don’t count at all, or they could take the points for away from yank but leave them as points scored against for Bays and Strath. They have done the former.

Initially I thought the way they had implemented this for yank/bays/strath was wrong – The way I read it they should have taken the points for away from yank but left them as points scored against for Bays and Strath. This would mean that yank gets penalised for their wrongdoing, but Bays/Strath are unaffected. But on second thoughts that isn’t very fair to Bays or Strath – Maybe Bays would have won if Yank didn’t play extra points….Can’t really give them 2 points as they didn’t win, so they get a percentage boost as compensation instead.

I guess it still could be argued the second method is better – Initially it didn’t seem right for Bays/Strath to get a huge percentage boost out of Yank breaking the rules. But I guess if Victor had lost narrowly to yank and they broke the rules, we would want some sort of compensation too.

So Yank loses the 2 points for the win against Bays but also lose all the points for, in both the win against Bays and loss to strath. (ie it counts as a loss for Bays but the score reads bays 75, yank 0 instead of bays 75, yank 98).

If the yank thing didn’t happen bays would have 432pts for and 428 against so their percentage would be 432/(432+428) = 50.23%
As the yank points for don’t count bays have 432pts for and 330 against so their percentage is 432/(432+330) = 56.69% (as per the ladder)

Also applies to Strath:

If the yank thing didn’t happen Strath would have 583pts for and 436 against so their percentage would be 583/(583+436) = 57.21%
As the yank points for don’t count Strath have 583pts for and 365 against so their percentage is 583/(583+365) = 61.50% (as per the ladder)

Yanks percentage is 41.72, but would have been 51.31% without the loss of points for.

As the year goes on and the points for and against increase, the 98 and 71 points will have less effect on all 3 teams percentages.

That is my take on it anyway!

[A Mum]

What are you trying to say A Mum

That you are good at 'this kind of thing' and look at that then - I was right...lol.

[LuvsFooty]

Forgot about the yank issue.

[field of dreams]

Thanks A Mum.

This could all change of course. I have heard that as well as the Massie clearance timing being investigated, there may yet be changes in the Yank points case. They apparently got approval on Borlace's point value from the GSFL before he played, so Yank want it looked into also.

I guess it depends on whether the player points declaration form was correct though.

[Dogwatcher]

This week's yarn on Country Footy SA's Football People column tells the story of Port Elliot ending its famous losing streak:

http://www.countryfooty.com.au/FootballPeople.htm

[field of dreams]

Cheers for that - good read. Interesting to see Dave Whitbourne is still playing up at Barmara-Monash - great stuff (jealous). He was a late starter to Aussie rules too having come from NSW - I can still remember him wearing his Balmain Tigers jumper all the time in Grade 7!

[Magpies 2010]

Great game that one, still remember the tv cameras in the rooms after the game.......forgot i played alright that game!!

[wristwatcher]

Interesting to see Mclaren vale with just the one win this year I was of the understanding that big improvements were expected when you consider some of the gun recruits. Could coach Steve Hill be in a little bit of "Barney Rubble"????

[GWW]

Unfortunately for McLaren there's been a reasonably big improvement from the bottom finishing teams from last year, in the case of the Bays, a fairly big improvement.

[field of dreams]

Interesting to see Mclaren vale with just the one win this year I was of the understanding that big improvements were expected when you consider some of the gun recruits. Could coach Steve Hill be in a little bit of "Barney Rubble"????

I'm sure all the sides that finished outside the 5 last year were looking to improve with plenty of new recruits and some real quality too and given what I have seen so far, all of them have. Because of this it is hard for any one side to jump up the ladder considerably as they dont seem to have lifted enough to defeat the top sides and have also had mixed results amongst themselves. Yank set the bar pretty high last year with their jump from last in 2009.

Long way to go yet though.

[Maybe]

ENCOUNTER BAY LANGHORNE CREEK Heuskes, Adam Pending 26/05/11

More money than sense ?????

[live_for_footy]

ENCOUNTER BAY LANGHORNE CREEK Heuskes, Adam Pending 26/05/11

More money than sense ?????

they are such a pathetic club. already with points players in their reserves. Well they have tried to buy flags in the past so lets all watch them crash and burn again this year.

[field of dreams]

Another 3 pointer pending for Yank too. Jed Durdin - played 14 reserves games for Port Adelaide last year and has played 6 so far this year?? Clearance is from Echunga though? Yank have played a colt the last couple of weeks to get them down to 13 points as it is and have other points players not playing every week.

Maybe a fall back position for both Yank and Durdin I guess.

[Slots It Through]

Another 3 pointer pending for Yank too. Jed Durdin - played 14 reserves games for Port Adelaide last year and has played 6 so far this year?? Clearance is from Echunga though? Yank have played a colt the last couple of weeks to get them down to 13 points as it is and have other points players not playing every week.

Maybe a fall back position for both Yank and Durdin I guess.

I think Jed Durdin is now available 100% of the time at Yank.

[Hardly_super]

ENCOUNTER BAY LANGHORNE CREEK Heuskes, Adam Pending 26/05/11

More money than sense ?????

they are such a pathetic club. already with points players in their reserves. Well they have tried to buy flags in the past so lets all watch them crash and burn again this year.

Seriously, what is pathetic about getting players to your club? I like the way clubs are recruiting above their points allocation. This means players who are worth points need to earn their keep, especially when it seems to be about cash theses days. On that note name me a club that in some aspect is not "buying a premiership" as people put it. The reality is you need to spend to recruit and recruits = points. Its just how it is in footy right now. Lets get off clubs for trying to better themselves and start talking footy!

[live_for_footy]

ENCOUNTER BAY LANGHORNE CREEK Heuskes, Adam Pending 26/05/11

More money than sense ?????

they are such a pathetic club. already with points players in their reserves. Well they have tried to buy flags in the past so lets all watch them crash and burn again this year.

Seriously, what is pathetic about getting players to your club? I like the way clubs are recruiting above their points allocation. This means players who are worth points need to earn their keep, especially when it seems to be about cash theses days. On that note name me a club that in some aspect is not "buying a premiership" as people put it. The reality is you need to spend to recruit and recruits = points. Its just how it is in footy right now. Lets get off clubs for trying to better themselves and start talking footy!

i can definately see where you are coming from, however i know the creeks have a lot of solid Juniors having just come up from last years GF team and as a club would you not prefer to see your home grown talent gaining experience - guys who have been there since U/8's and will finish their careers there...... rather then getting in guys who will be there for 2 years max and then get a better offer? plenty of guys cleared outta creek this year due to the fact they were not even gonna get considered for A grade this year..... but i agree if you want to be successful you must have some imported talent.