River Murray Football League talk

[StraightTalker]

I think the umpires train Wednesday night at Ramblers Straighttalker. Why dont you wander down there and introduce yourself to Mick Nottle. It is never easy finding new umpires but you seem to have all the credentials to go straight into an A grade game this week. My guess would be that you have never umpired a senior game otherwise you would not make such silly statements.

Are you saying that the umpires are doing a good job FTO?

[GWW]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

[johnny was]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

Totally agree with you GWW.

[Big Fulla]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

Totally agree with you GWW.

Here, here, finally some reasonable discussion.

[biffboy]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

Totally agree with you GWW.

Here, here, finally some reasonable discussion.

Well just to throw a spanner in the works there, Ramblers have won two of those premierships in that time and neither year did they use all there points. The reason why we have ended up so strong as a whole was develpoing our juniors the right way and allowing them to grow as footballers

[jstlookin]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

Totally agree with you GWW.

Here, here, finally some reasonable discussion.

I tend to agree with the above surely Tailem should be considered when it comes to the points allocation. Not winning a game for two years and nearly given the same amount of points as the Premiers surely that is not going to help them out at all. Yes should have recruited a bit smarter but in the long run due to their ladder position probably should be considered to get a couple extra points.

[johnny was]

Re the points system, I think the RMFL needs to be realistic in the way it treats the matter.

Since the system was brought in, i think premierships have only been won by the Murray Bridge sides, and I'm not sure thats a coincidence.

The reality is the clubs based in the smaller townships need assistance to compete with the MB clubs who have a biggeer population to draw from and big sponsors/budgets. If clubs like Tailem aren't able to compete they will fold, and ultimately the league will probably fold as well, or at least the amount of competing clubs will dwindle even further.

I believe Meningie receive an extra point allocation due to distance, so if the RMFL is going to be consistent, factors such as clubs going through winless/not being competitive, also need to be looked at.

Totally agree with you GWW.

Here, here, finally some reasonable discussion.

Well just to throw a spanner in the works there, Ramblers have won two of those premierships in that time and neither year did they use all there points. The reason why we have ended up so strong as a whole was develpoing our juniors the right way and allowing them to grow as footballers

Ramblers do a great job in developing their juniors but teams outside of Murray Bridge don`t have the luxury of having so many young footballers to pick from.This is where the extra points help teams that don`t have this advantage.

[GWW]

Well just to throw a spanner in the works there, Ramblers have won two of those premierships in that time and neither year did they use all there points. The reason why we have ended up so strong as a whole was develpoing our juniors the right way and allowing them to grow as footballers

The fact that they've been so successful without having to recruit extensively and use full allocation of points, shows that they have a big advantage in terms of juniors available to them.

[Goldberg]

Well just to throw a spanner in the works there, Ramblers have won two of those premierships in that time and neither year did they use all there points. The reason why we have ended up so strong as a whole was develpoing our juniors the right way and allowing them to grow as footballers

The fact that they've been so successful without having to recruit extensively and use full allocation of points, shows that they have a big advantage in terms of juniors available to them.

Sorry GWW, I think you're above statement is slightly hipicritical! Yes they have better numbers of juniors, but that does not always translate into better A Graders. Plus Tailem have won 2 of the last 3 u/17 Premierships haven't they?

Tailem of the 90's- Downs' Hattams, Connollys, Tomkinsons, Grantham, Hansons,
Ramblers have just gone or going through one of those Golden era's where they have a heap of Talented lads, all locals, & mostly clubs names.
Ramblers of the 00's- O'neils, Cowlands, Weylands, Rumbelows, Jacksons, Buttons & Dougall
Draw the line & stick to it!
The max points allocation should not be touched!
-Clubs are hardly finding the money needed now to use all of their points, without over spending
-Clubs go through flows of success, maybe instead of quick fixes, LONG TERM PLANS are needed.
-Are Tailem on the right track? Yes in my opinion, should they get more points? NO in my opinion. Go with what u have, retain your players next year & you should have an extra 5(or however many pointed players you have) points up your sleave.

[GWW]

Only 1 Under 17's premiershp in last 3 years I believe. The matter could be debated more, and I take your point. I guess I'm just saying that these vulnerable clubs need to be protected and there needs to be a bit of leeway. Otherwise we'll see Ramblers and Imps winning every premiership for the next 50 years.

The system (ie points) is an artificial one, so there does need to be some allowances made.

[the watcher]

So Goldy, assuming Imps or Ramblers suddenly struck tough times, thru bad recruiting , mismanagement or just bad luck I assume everyone would be ok with increasing their points allocation as well.?
Either you have a system and stick to it , or dont have one. Every club goes thru peaks and troughs and making up rules on the run is a recipe for trouble.
Its well known the president of the RMFL things the 2 bridge clubs should have zero points.

[Goldberg]

So Goldy, assuming Imps or Ramblers suddenly struck tough times, thru bad recruiting , mismanagement or just bad luck I assume everyone would be ok with increasing their points allocation as well.?
Either you have a system and stick to it , or dont have one. Every club goes thru peaks and troughs and making up rules on the run is a recipe for trouble.
Its well known the president of the RMFL things the 2 bridge clubs should have zero points.

I was saying dont touch it! I thought that was very clear.

If you had you're tongue in you're cheek, then I love your statement. Yes i dont recall getting to much sympathy after the Underwood era
Couldn't agree more with your ups & downs statement either

[biffboy]

IMO on this subject, the reason why imperials and ramblers are currently the most succesful clubs is due to smart recruiting.
Neither team goes out hunting big money and big name players, instead they look for friends /associates of existing players knowing they are likely to become multiple year players which helps immensly with the points system.
To me thats a huge credit to both clubs and the way they go about things.

Just remember up until a couple years ago Ramblers hadnt won a flag since the early 80's so yeah, teams do go through dry patches and they are hard to get through.

Having Tailem up and about is awesome for the comp but I just hope they tread carefully and dont forget the locals that have been there through the tough times because thats where many clubs have fallen down before.

[biffboy]

On a completely different note, did anyone read the write up from imps game in the standard today?

How a guy kicks 9 goals and doesnt get mentioned in the write up seems a little unfair. Then to go on and mention how dominant Harrowfield and Hollit were up forward when they only kicked 4 between them? C'mon seriously

Maybe a little favouritsm there I think

[GWW]

Maybe a little favouritsm there I think

Wouldn't it have been an Imps person doing the match report?

[biffboy]

Maybe a little favouritsm there I think

Wouldn't it have been an Imps person doing the match report?

Yes it would, but surely imps would never show favouritsm within there own club would they?

[biffboy]

Any news on how Ladhams went tonight?

[From The Outer]

Ladhams got 8 games. Same sentence as a Tailem player got for a similar charge and resulting injury last year. Going to appeal Thursday night. Season over for Jervois if appeal is not successful. Must produce new evidence to have any hope of the appeal being overturned.

[biffboy]

Ladhams got 8 games. Same sentence as a Tailem player got for a similar charge and resulting injury last year. Going to appeal Thursday night. Season over for Jervois if appeal is not successful. Must produce new evidence to have any hope of the appeal being overturned.

Thoroughly deserved from what I saw. Hope he's willing to donate some of his cash back to the club

[Steamy-Sausage]

Ladhams got 8 games. Same sentence as a Tailem player got for a similar charge and resulting injury last year. Going to appeal Thursday night. Season over for Jervois if appeal is not successful. Must produce new evidence to have any hope of the appeal being overturned.

Thoroughly deserved from what I saw. Hope he's willing to donate some of his cash back to the club

Biffboy what did you see?