SAAFL Div C6 (2011)

[The Riddler]

How are Sacred Heart going to catch up on the games they're behind in this comp due to coming in late? Just had a look at their side, pretty good team. I think Golden Grove will have a big challenger here.

We play Sacred Heart in a couple of weeks time in a Friday nite game at the burra-dome. Should be a ripping game and will see where we are at.

Riddler how were Broadview on the wkend? Do they still have a couple of deaf guys playing for them? We play them away this Saturday.

I only saw a half but Broadies were alright, probably just lack a bit of polish on their skills but the weather on Saturday made it a very scrappy game. They are quite fit looking not too many guys overweight. Yes still have a few deaf guys playing.

[1 club]

Just seen parks against SHOC,good game to watch with high skills for a c6 game.parks had afew out with work as i didnt see shultz,klompy and bourney out there.Both teams looked fit but Parks showed why they will be 1 of the teams to beat with a solid 6 goal win.

[1 club]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

[TEX07]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

And what would you suggest we do to help?? from our side last night we had about 4 maybe 5 players under 32, we are an older side with players that just know how to play the game. We are by no means fit nor fast. I personally would not keep up with the C grade let alone any higher.

Our C grade is sitting 6th and have been beaten by flinders, smosh and mitcham who are a massive cut above the rest of the comp. I think they will win more games in the next couple of weeks and should push for a finals spot. Our B grade is 5th and are by no means belted each week. They lost a player after the team sheets were handed in last week and had to go in a player down, throw an extra rotation into that game and they may have won and would be 4th. Our A grade are second to bottom and yes are struggling so far this year. Cant see how a group of 32+ year olds will change any of this.

I think where we sit in C6 is more of a reflection of the grade than the club. We are playing clubs D grade sides and so I guess we have a stronger D grade side than some others, you swap our whole side to C3 and we get beaten just like or C grade have when we come up against the sides I have mentioned.

Does this satisfy your curiosity?

[1 club]

Fair enough tex07 i just didnt the the gap from c3 to c6 was that big but it must be.Who won last night by the way?

[TEX07]

Fair enough tex07 i just didnt the the gap from c3 to c6 was that big but it must be.Who won last night by the way?

I dont think that the gap from C3 to C6 is massive except for the likes of Flinders Park, SMOSH and Mitcham. They are the only ones that I have seen and have beaten us easily. IN C3 Flinders Park should win the thing in a canter.

[kickinit]

flinders park should win but a few injuries could hurt to there a and b could hurt there chances

[double-blue]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

And what would you suggest we do to help?? from our side last night we had about 4 maybe 5 players under 32, we are an older side with players that just know how to play the game. We are by no means fit nor fast. I personally would not keep up with the C grade let alone any higher.

Our C grade is sitting 6th and have been beaten by flinders, smosh and mitcham who are a massive cut above the rest of the comp. I think they will win more games in the next couple of weeks and should push for a finals spot. Our B grade is 5th and are by no means belted each week. They lost a player after the team sheets were handed in last week and had to go in a player down, throw an extra rotation into that game and they may have won and would be 4th. Our A grade are second to bottom and yes are struggling so far this year. Cant see how a group of 32+ year olds will change any of this.

I think where we sit in C6 is more of a reflection of the grade than the club. We are playing clubs D grade sides and so I guess we have a stronger D grade side than some others, you swap our whole side to C3 and we get beaten just like or C grade have when we come up against the sides I have mentioned.

Does this satisfy your curiosity?

Say whatever you want, but if that is truly what you think then you clearly are delusional. Your D grade is clearly a cut above your C grade. There's no problems with a bunch of guys playing together in a lower grade but don't sit there and try to sugar coat it.

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

[old fullback]

I see Witty still kicking goals,still getting a kick at his age,was always a champ!

[TEX07]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

And what would you suggest we do to help?? from our side last night we had about 4 maybe 5 players under 32, we are an older side with players that just know how to play the game. We are by no means fit nor fast. I personally would not keep up with the C grade let alone any higher.

Our C grade is sitting 6th and have been beaten by flinders, smosh and mitcham who are a massive cut above the rest of the comp. I think they will win more games in the next couple of weeks and should push for a finals spot. Our B grade is 5th and are by no means belted each week. They lost a player after the team sheets were handed in last week and had to go in a player down, throw an extra rotation into that game and they may have won and would be 4th. Our A grade are second to bottom and yes are struggling so far this year. Cant see how a group of 32+ year olds will change any of this.

I think where we sit in C6 is more of a reflection of the grade than the club. We are playing clubs D grade sides and so I guess we have a stronger D grade side than some others, you swap our whole side to C3 and we get beaten just like or C grade have when we come up against the sides I have mentioned.

Does this satisfy your curiosity?

Say whatever you want, but if that is truly what you think then you clearly are delusional. Your D grade is clearly a cut above your C grade. There's no problems with a bunch of guys playing together in a lower grade but don't sit there and try to sugar coat it.

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

We do have plenty of players that could play C grade no problems, I said me personally would not be able to keep up with the pace of the likes of Flinders Park, SMOSH and Mitcham. Im not trying to sugar coat anything, it is no lie and my opinion that yes, our D grade side could probably move up to the C grade and play well against most sides, but we would get smashed by the sides I have mentioned. GGFC are a young area with heaps of young guys playing, they are mostly playing C grade or higher. Our D grade this year is no different to SMOSH last year, we have a group of us that are in our last years and want the chance to play without the pressure and the commitment of the higher grades. Some of us train once a week if at all.

As for your umpire comments, I really dont have an opinion on that. If you think we have an advantage then thats your opinion. You cant tell me that it really made the difference on friday night? If you want reasons maybe hit the track this week and put some pressure on some players and see if they crumble like they did on friday night. You guys started really well and I was worried but honestly apart from a few guys when the pressure was on you went missing.

[Trader]

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

As for your umpire comments, I really dont have an opinion on that. If you think we have an advantage then thats your opinion. You cant tell me that it really made the difference on friday night? If you want reasons maybe hit the track this week and put some pressure on some players and see if they crumble like they did on friday night. You guys started really well and I was worried but honestly apart from a few guys when the pressure was on you went missing.

Double blue, a lot of similar comments floating around about GG and their umpire last year as well. I recon they went 17-0 till the ump was pulled, dropped all 3 games including the two finals with neutral umps. (That's going from a somewhat dodgy memory, Tex might remember it better).

Unfortunatley that's the nature of C6 footy. Most clubs understand it's about having a kick and a catch, but there are always a few bad apples that consider it life and death and are willing abuse the club supplied umpire situation and send them out there with instructions to "help us out". You even hear their players abusing their ump during the game with comments like "You're supposed to be our umpire" when a decision goes against them. Bottom line is even if the ump doesn't wanna cheat, some of the younger ones don't have the backbone to stand up and do what's right. They are more concerned with what their mates are gonna say at the pub after the game than calling the game fair.

In GG's situation I think it's a real pitty. As Tex said, umpiring wouldn't have made a difference, they would have won anyway. GG are good enough this year to win it on their own, yet they still "taint" their wins through pressuring their umpire to help them out.

[TEX07]

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

As for your umpire comments, I really dont have an opinion on that. If you think we have an advantage then thats your opinion. You cant tell me that it really made the difference on friday night? If you want reasons maybe hit the track this week and put some pressure on some players and see if they crumble like they did on friday night. You guys started really well and I was worried but honestly apart from a few guys when the pressure was on you went missing.

Double blue, a lot of similar comments floating around about GG and their umpire last year as well. I recon they went 17-0 till the ump was pulled, dropped all 3 games including the two finals with neutral umps. (That's going from a somewhat dodgy memory, Tex might remember it better).

Unfortunatley that's the nature of C6 footy. Most clubs understand it's about having a kick and a catch, but there are always a few bad apples that consider it life and death and are willing abuse the club supplied umpire situation and send them out there with instructions to "help us out". You even hear their players abusing their ump during the game with comments like "You're supposed to be our umpire" when a decision goes against them. Bottom line is even if the ump doesn't wanna cheat, some of the younger ones don't have the backbone to stand up and do what's right. They are more concerned with what their mates are gonna say at the pub after the game than calling the game fair.

In GG's situation I think it's a real pitty. As Tex said, umpiring wouldn't have made a difference, they would have won anyway. GG are good enough this year to win it on their own, yet they still "taint" their wins through pressuring their umpire to help them out.

Honestly cant say that I know about what happened last season because I was in the C grade, in our circumstance I can say that our umpire really doesnt have anything to do with us. He pretty much turns up, umpires then leaves. Our umpire in the C grade last year hurt us more than hindered us at times so I dont really have an issue with ours now. Will say that I thought that the SHOC ump wasnt too bad and let some stuff go which is good to see. I did think that ours was a bit precious when it came to players talking to him though, I would not have liked to see a guy sent off for asking why the free was or wasnt given. It is D grade footy.

[double-blue]

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

As for your umpire comments, I really dont have an opinion on that. If you think we have an advantage then thats your opinion. You cant tell me that it really made the difference on friday night? If you want reasons maybe hit the track this week and put some pressure on some players and see if they crumble like they did on friday night. You guys started really well and I was worried but honestly apart from a few guys when the pressure was on you went missing.

Double blue, a lot of similar comments floating around about GG and their umpire last year as well. I recon they went 17-0 till the ump was pulled, dropped all 3 games including the two finals with neutral umps. (That's going from a somewhat dodgy memory, Tex might remember it better).

Unfortunatley that's the nature of C6 footy. Most clubs understand it's about having a kick and a catch, but there are always a few bad apples that consider it life and death and are willing abuse the club supplied umpire situation and send them out there with instructions to "help us out". You even hear their players abusing their ump during the game with comments like "You're supposed to be our umpire" when a decision goes against them. Bottom line is even if the ump doesn't wanna cheat, some of the younger ones don't have the backbone to stand up and do what's right. They are more concerned with what their mates are gonna say at the pub after the game than calling the game fair.

In GG's situation I think it's a real pitty. As Tex said, umpiring wouldn't have made a difference, they would have won anyway. GG are good enough this year to win it on their own, yet they still "taint" their wins through pressuring their umpire to help them out.

Honestly cant say that I know about what happened last season because I was in the C grade, in our circumstance I can say that our umpire really doesnt have anything to do with us. He pretty much turns up, umpires then leaves. Our umpire in the C grade last year hurt us more than hindered us at times so I dont really have an issue with ours now. Will say that I thought that the SHOC ump wasnt too bad and let some stuff go which is good to see. I did think that ours was a bit precious when it came to players talking to him though, I would not have liked to see a guy sent off for asking why the free was or wasnt given. It is D grade footy.

This was the real standout event, the 'abusive language' call was outlandish to say the least - our player had his head taken off and wasn't rewarded a free. Which would have been fine, you could possibly say that he just missed the call but then to threaten/abuse our player with a tribunal hearing after he asked him 'What was abusive in what I said' seemed a little rough, especially considering that nothing he said could/should have been deemed as abusive.

Definitely agree that we played bad, no doubt about it - we started well but faded. Hopefully it's a bit of a wakeup call for the rest of the season.

[TEX07]

I was right there when he said that to your player and thought that it was a fair bit of a stretch to get anyone to the tribunal for that. I didnt see the free but didnt think that there was anything in asking the ump why the free wasnt awarded. You guys had some good players and I really thought that the game was going to be closer than it was.

[Choccies]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

Does being 5th or 6th with 3 and a half wins out of 7 games classify you as being near the bottom ??? Hell, maybe 2nd place is near the bottom too then 'ey ?? You planker. Yes the A's are struggling, but the B's and C's are mid table and the D's are top. 1 club, 0 brains.

[S Demon]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

Why is that strange? Maybe the competition just isn't as good in C6 as is it is in C3, D3R and D3...?

[The Cows]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

Does being 5th or 6th with 3 and a half wins out of 7 games classify you as being near the bottom ??? Hell, maybe 2nd place is near the bottom too then 'ey ?? You planker. Yes the A's are struggling, but the B's and C's are mid table and the D's are top. 1 club, 0 brains.

I really don't give a hoot where you play your players. It's just a fair question to ask.It has been asked of us before too. I stood Marshall when we played you guys and the help he was giving your other forwards was something he should be doing with your younger forwards. He was telling them where to lead and how to set up, but it is his choice and who are we to question this. I enjoyed standing him even though he kicked 6 As for the age of players it doesn't matter how old you are, if the club needs your help you give it. It is much better for the kids to play besides a few older blokes as it gives them so much confidence to put their head over the ball knowing that we are there to encourage and look after them.
This kind of question always get's asked when one of your grades is getting much better results than the other grades. We had a cracker of a game against you guys and it was played in really good spirits. I am looking forward to another good one soon. It is good to have a quality side in the comp to keep things interesting. Just take it with a pinch of salt guys

[Jugs]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

And what would you suggest we do to help?? from our side last night we had about 4 maybe 5 players under 32, we are an older side with players that just know how to play the game. We are by no means fit nor fast. I personally would not keep up with the C grade let alone any higher.

Our C grade is sitting 6th and have been beaten by flinders, smosh and mitcham who are a massive cut above the rest of the comp. I think they will win more games in the next couple of weeks and should push for a finals spot. Our B grade is 5th and are by no means belted each week. They lost a player after the team sheets were handed in last week and had to go in a player down, throw an extra rotation into that game and they may have won and would be 4th. Our A grade are second to bottom and yes are struggling so far this year. Cant see how a group of 32+ year olds will change any of this.

I think where we sit in C6 is more of a reflection of the grade than the club. We are playing clubs D grade sides and so I guess we have a stronger D grade side than some others, you swap our whole side to C3 and we get beaten just like or C grade have when we come up against the sides I have mentioned.

Does this satisfy your curiosity?

Say whatever you want, but if that is truly what you think then you clearly are delusional. Your D grade is clearly a cut above your C grade. There's no problems with a bunch of guys playing together in a lower grade but don't sit there and try to sugar coat it.

I try to never have a go at umpires (PAC for instance have a great umpire). Usually any bad mistakes that they make are as a result of them being either too unfit to get to positions or a lack of experience. However your umpire was ridiculously biased during the game and I'm sure other teams have probably had the same problems.

Looks like Golden Grove's D grade are the new sandbaggers of the SAAFL. I always hoped Adelaide Uni's sides tripped up GF day, now I'm going for whoever plays GG

[TEX07]

Good on you "Jugs". I wouldnt expect anything less. Pitty you dont actually have a club you affiliate yourself with? Or are you one of those guys that just turns up at clubs every now and then and decides you are an expert. Love how we are playing the lowest possible level of footy in the SAAFL and you would actually take happiness out of us not winning a flag, you really must lead an exciting life.

[TEX07]

I find it abit strange that golden groves a,b and c grades are all near the bottom and lose by over 10 goals yet there ds are top and win by 10 goals every week.do any of the ds go up to help higher grades?

Does being 5th or 6th with 3 and a half wins out of 7 games classify you as being near the bottom ??? Hell, maybe 2nd place is near the bottom too then 'ey ?? You planker. Yes the A's are struggling, but the B's and C's are mid table and the D's are top. 1 club, 0 brains.

I really don't give a hoot where you play your players. It's just a fair question to ask.It has been asked of us before too. I stood Marshall when we played you guys and the help he was giving your other forwards was something he should be doing with your younger forwards. He was telling them where to lead and how to set up, but it is his choice and who are we to question this. I enjoyed standing him even though he kicked 6 As for the age of players it doesn't matter how old you are, if the club needs your help you give it. It is much better for the kids to play besides a few older blokes as it gives them so much confidence to put their head over the ball knowing that we are there to encourage and look after them.
This kind of question always get's asked when one of your grades is getting much better results than the other grades. We had a cracker of a game against you guys and it was played in really good spirits. I am looking forward to another good one soon. It is good to have a quality side in the comp to keep things interesting. Just take it with a pinch of salt guys

You see Cows we see it differently. If Mark Marshall at 42 is the answer to all our problems in our A grade then he would be the first player to give it a go. He is not. If he was up in the A grade we would need to push another kid, who has the ability to commit to two nights training each week, do recovery sessions, all of the things that you need to do now days to play at the higher levels, down to the B grade. Then the B grade has to push another down and so on it flows. Not one of us in the D grade train two nights a week, not one of us would turn up to a Sunday recovery session, most of us (myself included) are there because we can not commit to this. Most of our C grade side train two nights a week, they are commited and want to play higher. I agree that blokes like Marshall are great to have in the D grade and clearly can play but his body is not up to the higher faster levels.

S Demon is right just because our D grade is doing well is no indication of where we are as a club. If we continue in the current form and finsh bottom 2 in the A grade and we are lucky enough to win a flag in the D grade, as a club we still have had a poor year.

I am deffinately looking forward to the return game against you guys, it will deffinately be another good game.