Centenary Squad

[teaoby]

If this is what has become of our state team it is an utter joke.

In our centenary year we can not put our best side on the park but a bunch of players who get a state jumper just because they are U/23.

In years past you had to earn your state jumper now they just give you one because you are U/23

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out. The gap between D1 & D2 is huge.

We will get smashed to pieces at the carnival and it might just be the wake up call this league needs to realise that this is not the way to go.

Blake Wagner played Div 4 for CBC the following year won Gazza B&F and made team of year 2 years running, now captain.

Will Dalwood played div 4 for us 2yrs ago played SANFL league footy last year!
the standard of teams are much lower but i agree certain players are plenty good enough!

[flash]

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out. The gap between D1 & D2 is huge.

John Boxer from Golden Grove last year seem to being doing alright at Gaza.

[my contribution]

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out. The gap between D1 & D2 is huge.

Brett Prior Won PDFC A grade B&F last year by plenty and missed a few games due to holiday, was CHB in the state side last year, moves to Portland (div 3) and doesnt make the squad of 40 sounds odd, still is only 21

Jarrod Wareing and Tom Lipson are tearing the Division 3 competition apart for Portland and are dead set Superstars and are not in the team. Should almost be a walk up start for both. What is happening there?

[NO-MERCY]

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Brett Prior Won PDFC A grade B&F last year by plenty and missed a few games due to holiday, was CHB in the state side last year, moves to Portland (div 3) and doesnt make the squad of 40 sounds odd, still is only 21

( played out of position ) No disrespect but the guy hasn't done anything the first 3-4 games playing CHF as he's a backman, he gets slotted down back & bingo ( best players ) because thats his position.

[alcho-pop]

If this is what has become of our state team it is an utter joke.

In our centenary year we can not put our best side on the park but a bunch of players who get a state jumper just because they are U/23.

In years past you had to earn your state jumper now they just give you one because you are U/23

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out. The gap between D1 & D2 is huge.

We will get smashed to pieces at the carnival and it might just be the wake up call this league needs to realise that this is not the way to go.

Blake Wagner played Div 4 for CBC the following year won Gazza B&F and made team of year 2 years running, now captain.

In all fairness tho, he won the u/19's medal when at westies and definitely capable of playing higher than div 1. Wasn't he at CBC with mates?

[alcho-pop]

At the end of the day, as FC posted it's an AAFC thing with the u/23's and there could be an open age side but there'd be noone to play against which is why the SAAFL has rightly changed the annual game against the SA Country to an open age squad (previous team of the year). As it turns out the team turns into a predominantly u/23 team anyway because hardly any of the overage players commit to playing. Case closed IMO.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

At the end of the day, as FC posted it's an AAFC thing with the u/23's and there could be an open age side but there'd be noone to play against which is why the SAAFL has rightly changed the annual game against the SA Country to an open age squad (previous team of the year). As it turns out the team turns into a predominantly u/23 team anyway because hardly any of the overage players commit to playing. Case closed IMO.

Seldom right and wrong again!!! Players aren't avaliable because it is played at EASTER!!!!!!

Players train all summer and the opportuity for some to have a 5 day break and remember that this 5 day break only happens once every 100+ years.

Play it at a decent time and the players will commit.

Open age is avaliable and the VAFA do have an open age side so just needs to be organised!!!!

[BenchedEagle]

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out.

This comment shows how out of touch with the league and its players you really are. Boothby is a prime example as said, Benny Halliday very good div 1 player played Div 5 last year. We have a couple guys in our side right now that would go ok in Div 1. Besides myself Lee Makris and Steve Taylor.

[New Era]

Seldom right and wrong again!!! Players aren't avaliable because it is played at EASTER!!!!!!

When then in your opinion is the best time to have it?

[FOURTH ESTATE]

When the SAAFL get of their backsides and organise it!!

[New Era]

When the SAAFL get of their backsides and organise it!!

With all due respect mate, you've come up with all the reasons it's a failure but can't come up with the solutions to make it a success.

[Footy Chick]

FE's twins must have kept him awake last night.

After all, he knows full well the reasons for the u23 side, I don't understand his carry on really.

If we go open age, we only play one team...Victoria.

If you reckon you've got the solution FE, jump back on the board - Im sure Jimmy and Kernas would love to have you

[my contribution]

When the SAAFL get of their backsides and organise it!!

With all due respect mate, you've come up with all the reasons it's a failure but can't come up with the solutions to make it a success.

Then so be it - only play Victoria and just forget about the rest. Most would want to play Victoria in the first place.

The clubs, most of the coaches from the clubs and nobody except those who previously had a vested interest, wants this Under 23 concept, other than as a curtain raiser to the Open age State side. People want to see the Open Age team play and at an appropriate time, such as the long weekend in June, or pre-season. To schedule the Open age side to play over the Easter weekend was ridiculous and as a result none of the Open age players wanted to play and the selectors were ringing around just to find an Under 23 team. After a pre-season, 3 or 4 trial matches and 3 minor round matches, the players, the coaches and everyone else just wanted a break from the game for the 5 day break, including Anzac Day. No rocket science there in working that out.

To use the Easter break to play open age football was sheer stupidity. If with more appropriate scheduling the Open age players do not put themselves out to play, then by all means scrap the idea, but for heavens sake give the spectators and clubs what they want to see and that is serious State football and not the mickey mouse stuff that has been thrust upon us, as simple very little people are interested, especially when used as the showcase game and not the curtain raiser.

[New Era]

When the SAAFL get of their backsides and organise it!!

With all due respect mate, you've come up with all the reasons it's a failure but can't come up with the solutions to make it a success.

Then so be it - only play Victoria and just forget about the rest. Most would want to play Victoria in the first place.

The clubs, most of the coaches from the clubs and nobody except those who previously had a vested interest, wants this Under 23 concept, other than as a curtain raiser to the Open age State side. People want to see the Open Age team play and at an appropriate time, such as the long weekend in June, or pre-season. To schedule the Open age side to play over the Easter weekend was ridiculous and as a result none of the Open age players wanted to play and the selectors were ringing around just to find an Under 23 team. After a pre-season, 3 or 4 trial matches and 3 minor round matches, the players, the coaches and everyone else just wanted a break from the game for the 5 day break, including Anzac Day. No rocket science there in working that out.

To use the Easter break to play open age football was sheer stupidity. If with more appropriate scheduling the Open age players do not put themselves out to play, then by all means scrap the idea, but for heavens sake give the spectators and clubs what they want to see and that is serious State football and not the mickey mouse stuff that has been thrust upon us, as simple very little people are interested, especially when used as the showcase game and not the curtain raiser.

Fair answer but let's be perfectly frank, the doomsdayers will find a reason for it to fail even if it was the June longweekend. Then the excuse will be oh I didn't want to play because it's half way during the season and needed a break. Reality is this, whether it be U/23 or open age, not everybody is interested. Some people have short memories, one of the reasons it went to U/23 in the first place is because they couldn't get blokes to play and clubs were sick of funding a side to be wacked by Victoria by 15 goals every year. Then we couldn't play the other states because they had gone with the U/23 thing.

[my contribution]

When the SAAFL get of their backsides and organise it!!

With all due respect mate, you've come up with all the reasons it's a failure but can't come up with the solutions to make it a success.

Then so be it - only play Victoria and just forget about the rest. Most would want to play Victoria in the first place.

The clubs, most of the coaches from the clubs and nobody except those who previously had a vested interest, wants this Under 23 concept, other than as a curtain raiser to the Open age State side. People want to see the Open Age team play and at an appropriate time, such as the long weekend in June, or pre-season. To schedule the Open age side to play over the Easter weekend was ridiculous and as a result none of the Open age players wanted to play and the selectors were ringing around just to find an Under 23 team. After a pre-season, 3 or 4 trial matches and 3 minor round matches, the players, the coaches and everyone else just wanted a break from the game for the 5 day break, including Anzac Day. No rocket science there in working that out.

To use the Easter break to play open age football was sheer stupidity. If with more appropriate scheduling the Open age players do not put themselves out to play, then by all means scrap the idea, but for heavens sake give the spectators and clubs what they want to see and that is serious State football and not the mickey mouse stuff that has been thrust upon us, as simple very little people are interested, especially when used as the showcase game and not the curtain raiser.

Fair answer but let's be perfectly frank, the doomsdayers will find a reason for it to fail even if it was the June longweekend. Then the excuse will be oh I didn't want to play because it's half way during the season and needed a break. Reality is this, whether it be U/23 or open age, not everybody is interested. Some people have short memories, one of the reasons it went to U/23 in the first place is because they couldn't get blokes to play and clubs were sick of funding a side to be wacked by Victoria by 15 goals every year. Then we couldn't play the other states because they had gone with the U/23 thing.

Very fair reply as well. It would appear that we have in one corner a group that are proponents for the U23 team and another for the Open age selection criteria. The new executive and indeed all of the current members (bar one) were not even around when this was introduced, so let them have time to digest what is right or wrong with the State/Representative system. I clearly am of one opinion, as you with the other, but I think you would agree that if the majority of clubs and coaches are not in favour of this U23 format, as is clearly the case now, then there is very little chance of the U23 team having much longer to go, or we will continue to see what is happening. The guys at the helm now are smart enough to work out at seasons end which way is the best way over the short and long term.

[New Era]

Very fair reply as well. It would appear that we have in one corner a group that are proponents for the U23 team and another for the Open age selection criteria. The new executive and indeed all of the current members (bar one) were not even around when this was introduced, so let them have time to digest what is right or wrong with the State/Representative system. I clearly am of one opinion, as you with the other, but I think you would agree that if the majority of clubs and coaches are not in favour of this U23 format, as is clearly the case now, then there is very little chance of the U23 team having much longer to go, or we will continue to see what is happening. The guys at the helm now are smart enough to work out at seasons end which way is the best way over the short and long term.

Not at all, I have no real preference on either but if we're not going to do it right either way then don't do it at all. All I'm saying is we can't just keep saying this is shite without coming up with alternative solutions and if there aren't any alternatives then shelve it for another day.

I reckon the smartest thing for the new exec to do is put it on the table with a complete argument for and against and let the clubs decide whether it continues and under what format if it does.

[Flipper]

If this is what has become of our state team it is an utter joke.

In our centenary year we can not put our best side on the park but a bunch of players who get a state jumper just because they are U/23.

In years past you had to earn your state jumper now they just give you one because you are U/23

No disrespect to the players but a Div 4 player would not be able to compete with Div 1 players week in week out. The gap between D1 & D2 is huge.

We will get smashed to pieces at the carnival and it might just be the wake up call this league needs to realise that this is not the way to go.

Blake Wagner played Div 4 for CBC the following year won Gazza B&F and made team of year 2 years running, now captain.

In all fairness tho, he won the u/19's medal when at westies and definitely capable of playing higher than div 1. Wasn't he at CBC with mates?

Yeah played with mates.

[Footy Chick]

FYI....

The U23 SAAFL side will be playing a trial against the SANFL state U18 squad on Wednesday 25/05/2011 at Kilburn starting from 6pm.

It's a non training night so will be worth popping in to have a look and cheer the boys on.

[wycbloods]

Is Judd Robson still in this side seen as he is now playing at Port Magpies? He played for them in the foxtel cup game last week.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Are they serious with the format of the carnival????????????
2 x 15 minute halves round robin competition on Thursday & Friday to decide who plays in the final on Sunday.

This is not State Football this is Farce. The sooner this U/23 concept ends and we go back to proper open age state football the better.