Reasons to Vote "NO"

[the joker]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

Very disappointing, hopefully it doesn't cost state based control of game development for both sports.

I think it will though. Ifthe no gets through the government will say thanks we now run Adelaide oval

[heater31]

Still can not see the logic in people voting no. Staggering.

Blows ya mind hey.
So many muppets in this state.
Yes I mean you NO voters

When asked to vote for All South Australians I considered ALL South Australians. Simply I believe that SA has over committed itself to borrowing funds to pay for things when in turn to reduce costs sells every asset in sight and cuts funding to key lifestyle necessities. Of course there are other issues but this is my main reason.

Yes the vote is for constitutional change to the SACA but I will be extremely disappointed if the News Limited plan B proposal goes ahead with SACA still retaining control of the ground and the Government just gives half a billion of taxpayers money to satisfy a Victorian centric organisation when the next 4 generations will be left with the debt.

[redandblack]

I think you're right, smac. Some AO members now want to run the State's finances.

Personally, I think it's more than a bit silly that this decision can be shot down by people who happen to be members of an organisation who lease a state asset.

[Hondo]

Heater, I assume you are campaigning against all other current or planned Government capital works?

[dedja]

Where were all these people when the Southern Expressway was being built!

[Ecky]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

If that really is the case then the SACA only have themselves to blame.
If they were completely honest in the campaign and used the money to respond promptly and openly to the many issues raised (eg our emails...) then maybe there wouldn't be this feeling among many members. Instead we just got continuously spammed by text messages, emails, Rucci propaganda, full page newspaper ads and radio ads to "vote yes or else..." which just put people off and made them sceptical!
So we just dug deeper and didn't like what we found.

[redandblack]

No, Ecky, you asked questions where the answers didn't matter and you found what you wanted to find.

[heater31]

Heater, I assume you are campaigning against all other current or planned Government capital works?

Yes, I have serious concerns with all capital expenditure with Government Projects. Desal plant already a disaster cost wise and not something essential IMO, RAH cost spiralling out of control heck even the new Swimming pool doubled its initial costings

[cripple]

If it doesn't get up, what excuses can i give my victorian colleagues as to the reason saca members turned down $535 million. might start with members being happy with their own new stand that gives them improved views of the hills then move onto how the drop in pitch will effect the uniqueness of the road that is the Adelaide Oval pitch and maybe finish it off how much of a joy it is for the footballing masses to drive out into the suburbs every second weekend and get stuck in fantastic traffic snarls looking at the unique architecture of the area.

Nah. Just ask them how the grand prix is working out for them...

Think i might lose the argument when they come back with AFL, NRL, Super 15, A - League in three different world class venues, Comedy fest, Aus Open tennis, Crown Ent complex etc, etc all being a 10 minute MAX tram ride from the centre of town. They might even come back with the fact that SA couldn't even build a two tiered grand stand in a under utilised public space on the fringe of the city. I love SA and cant wait to move back but the backwards thinking that permeates the upper echelons of society over there is truly staggering.

[smac]

Melbourne, the town with a second stadium that is yet to turn a profit?

We should do what is right for Adelaide.

[cripple]

Melbourne, the town with a second stadium that is yet to turn a profit?

We should do what is right for Adelaide.

Are you talking about Etihad, AAMI park or maybe the new Albert Park Athletics track. Could even be discussing the 4 year old Hisense arena. At least progress and innovation aren't being stifled by an old boys club.

[Dutchy]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

Very disappointing, hopefully it doesn't cost state based control of game development for both sports.

I think it will though. Ifthe no gets through the government will say thanks we now run Adelaide oval

just like the threat they would build the stand in Vic Park anyway, but didnt

How much $ are footy putting into this again?

[smac]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

If that really is the case then the SACA only have themselves to blame.
If they were completely honest in the campaign and used the money to respond promptly and openly to the many issues raised (eg our emails...) then maybe there wouldn't be this feeling among many members. Instead we just got continuously spammed by text messages, emails, Rucci propaganda, full page newspaper ads and radio ads to "vote yes or else..." which just put people off and made them sceptical!
So we just dug deeper and didn't like what we found.

No, if people were to trust the organisaton instead of being sceptical, then the feeling would be different.

Tell me, really, what is the issue? What is wrong with wanting what is best for SACA? If you (as you believe) don't know everything, why do you think SACA are hiding something? Why do you think you know more than the people elected to direct the Assocaition?

Why are you sceptical?

It is OK to hold them to account, but I still believe that many have decided to be obstropolous for the sake of it.

[smac]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

Very disappointing, hopefully it doesn't cost state based control of game development for both sports.

I think it will though. Ifthe no gets through the government will say thanks we now run Adelaide oval

just like the threat they would build the stand in Vic Park anyway, but didnt

How much $ are footy putting into this again?

As much as SACA and $535m less than the SA Govt.

Why should SACA contribute -$85m and SANFL $0? Who wins and loses? Your kids and their footy/cricket - that's who.

[AFLflyer]

Still can not see the logic in people voting no. Staggering.

well hang on.... we do live in Adelaide now, don't we.....

[AFLflyer]

Heater, I assume you are campaigning against all other current or planned Government capital works?

Yes, I have serious concerns with all capital expenditure with Government Projects. Desal plant already a disaster cost wise and not something essential IMO, RAH cost spiralling out of control heck even the new Swimming pool doubled its initial costings

YOU HEATER (and others), are our states problem, SICK of it, take a second and read what you just wrote!!!!!
NO voters should cop the blame if this dies like so many other positive projects do in this state. What is wrong with our new swimming pool you id.........iot!!!!!, what is wrong with the tram line! etc etc etc. move with the times and accept progress and change otherwise we (SA) will die much quicker than we already are. OPEN your eyes.
Yes i've had a few beers but for F**kSake!!

[AFLflyer]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

Very disappointing, hopefully it doesn't cost state based control of game development for both sports.

I think it will though. Ifthe no gets through the government will say thanks we now run Adelaide oval

just like the threat they would build the stand in Vic Park anyway, but didnt

How much $ are footy putting into this again?

Dutchy you have to be kidding!!!!!!

[AFLflyer]

SCEPTICAL is the key word here and too many of US are ??!!

[dedja]

Heater, I assume you are campaigning against all other current or planned Government capital works?

Yes, I have serious concerns with all capital expenditure with Government Projects. Desal plant already a disaster cost wise and not something essential IMO, RAH cost spiralling out of control heck even the new Swimming pool doubled its initial costings

Can't let that one go ... do you realise in a dry year (and we have lots of them), that over 90% of Adelaide's water is sourced from the Murray, and that we only have 1 years supply in our catchments. So, whilst its an expensive solution, we do need to suppliment our water supply from an alternate source from the Murray.

[smac]

My opinion is that many are jumping at shadows. Too suspicious and finding conspiracy where there is none.

If that really is the case then the SACA only have themselves to blame.
If they were completely honest in the campaign and used the money to respond promptly and openly to the many issues raised (eg our emails...) then maybe there wouldn't be this feeling among many members. Instead we just got continuously spammed by text messages, emails, Rucci propaganda, full page newspaper ads and radio ads to "vote yes or else..." which just put people off and made them sceptical!
So we just dug deeper and didn't like what we found.

You chose to read information other than that issued by SACA. The emails, SMS etc issued were not on an "or else" basis. SACA has a comms dept of 4 people, if your choice was to vote no before the answer to your questions then that is fine, but do not put the blame on anyone but yourself for the conclusions made.