Reasons to Vote "NO"

[smac]

The other argument i dont buy into is the whole 'you have a responsibility to the people of the state etc etc etc' does that include the people of SA who hate sport have never been to either stadium.

What about a responsibility to the kids playing cricket at your cricket club? Or the club up the road? Don't want the game to thrive in SA?

smac, on a more serious note

When the project inevitably goes over budget, who is going to pay for it? The brochure doesn't mention this aspect at all. I can see that $18 million being eaten up very quickly...
And once we have paid the mega bucks for the next batch of Kieron Pollards for this new 20/20 team, I can't see there being much left over at all for grass roots cricket, especially given the complete lack of support the SACA has given to our association (SA Churches and Community CA) in recent years.

1. Not sure - I would suggest contacting SACA and asking them or attending an info session to ask.
2. Game development will get more of the surplus than high performance, the needs are higher and that is acknowledged by the purse string controllers.
3. Because game development runs on a shoe string, focus is on junior development. That unfortunately leaves little room for your comp. That will slightly change, or greatly change, based on the member vote.

[whufc]

There's no point debating things that aren't relevant, like spending the money elsewhere, building different stadiums in different places, etc.

The proposal is on the table.

Here's $500 million, plus $200 million from the casino, to upgrade the city's sporting and riverside facilities, effectively remove the SACA's debt, free up SACA's profits for junior and other development, all for no loss of membership benefits.

It's a no-brainer.

There's another proposal on the table that's similar.

"We're going to build a brand new state-of-the-art hospital"

Oh no, we don't want that, we like our old one.

Is it any wonder SA is a backward state at times.

But you blame the Government

(the same government who guarantee your debt).

im all for a new state of the art hospital at whatever cost!

now theres something Adelaide could do with!

[heater31]

If the MCG works with both cricket and footy, I don't see why Adelaide Oval can't?

The MCG is also managed by a cricket organisation.... Shock Horror!

[smac]

If the MCG works with both cricket and footy, I don't see why Adelaide Oval can't?

The MCG is also managed by a cricket organisation.... Shock Horror!

Is it really? I thought the MCG Trustees were Government appointments?

[AFLflyer]

Question for you backward thinking, No voters. (just out of interest)
Lets say it all goes ahead:
1) will you continue to argue your point and cause as much distruption to the process as possible.
2) will you give in and begin to look forward, as the decision is now out of your hands and has been chosen as the best option to our state.
3) throw in your membership and never go to the cricket again

[whufc]

Question for you backward thinking, No voters. (just out of interest)
Lets say it all goes ahead:
1) will you continue to argue your point and cause as much distruption to the process as possible.
2) will you give in and begin to look forward, as the decision is now out of your hands and has been chosen as the best option to our state.
3) throw in your membership and never go to the cricket again

1) NO thats what votes are for to decide what the majority want
2) NOT REALLY i will still only be attending AO in cricket season
3) THATS AN ISSUE we dont really know what our membership will fully intail if the move goes ahead.

[redandblack]

It's not the majority, though, WHUFC.

if the no vote exceeds 25%, but not 50%, the majority dip out.

[whufc]

It's not the majority, though, WHUFC.

if the no vote exceeds 25%, but not 50%, the majority dip out.

yeah i typed to quick,

TBH i dont really agree with that should be majority rules.

[Dutchy]

There's no point debating things that aren't relevant, like spending the money elsewhere, building different stadiums in different places, etc.

The proposal is on the table.

Here's $500 million, plus $200 million from the casino, to upgrade the city's sporting and riverside facilities, effectively remove the SACA's debt, free up SACA's profits for junior and other development, all for no loss of membership benefits.

It's a no-brainer.

There's another proposal on the table that's similar.

"We're going to build a brand new state-of-the-art hospital"

Oh no, we don't want that, we like our old one.

Is it any wonder SA is a backward state at times.

But you blame the Government

(the same government who guarantee your debt).

Ahhh now I can see the governments incentive here, get a bigger Casino = 1,000's more pokies = more revenue for the state.

Just what the city needs is more pokies

[redandblack]

That's an even longer bow you're drawing there than you have so far

[Hondo]

> Shield Final - still no guarantee it would be held at Adel Oval, we would have to negotiate with SANFL/AFL, I cant see that going well in early March leading into a footy season. This is a potential deal breaker IMO, why couldnt they agree that if SA qualified they could extend crickets rights to the oval for the 5 days required? This alone is likely to get many members offside.

John Harndon on 5AA guaranteed that a Shield Final would be at the AO and the SMA would compromise with footy in those years where we earned that right

So members either believe him or they don't, up to them.

[Dutchy]

That's an even longer bow you're drawing there than you have so far

How so? tell me...

[Dutchy]

> Shield Final - still no guarantee it would be held at Adel Oval, we would have to negotiate with SANFL/AFL, I cant see that going well in early March leading into a footy season. This is a potential deal breaker IMO, why couldnt they agree that if SA qualified they could extend crickets rights to the oval for the 5 days required? This alone is likely to get many members offside.

John Harndon on 5AA guaranteed that a Shield Final would be at the AO and the SMA would compromise with footy in those years where we earned that right

So members either believe him or they don't, up to them.

So do I believe 5AA or the official SACA members information document that we are basing our decision on?

[cripple]

If the MCG works with both cricket and footy, I don't see why Adelaide Oval can't?

The MCG is also managed by a cricket organisation.... Shock Horror!

Is it really? I thought the MCG Trustees were Government appointments?

That can thank football for 96% of its annual turnover. Doesn't make sense does it.

[Ecky]

If the development is already a done deal (as many are suggesting) why have the SACA spent so much money on propaganda with the glossy brochures, DVD and information sessions with free drinks for newer members to try to convince us to vote yes?

[Hondo]

So do I believe 5AA or the official SACA members information document that we are basing our decision on?

John Harndon said it, not 5AA. He said it during an interview ON 5AA. Ask him at the members' info night. I assume someone will if you don't. I am just telling you what he said.

Does the info document say specifially there is no guarantee or you assume that because it doesn't say it? If that makes sense.

Either way, I am sure it will come up at your info session.

[Hondo]

If the development is already a done deal (as many are suggesting) why have the SACA spent so much money on propaganda with the glossy brochures, DVD and information sessions with free drinks for newer members to try to convince us to vote yes?

I think it's far easier and preferable for everyone if this happens with the SACA members vote going the right way

A compulsory acquisition of the AO is not the ideal scenario for anyone is it?

[Gingernuts]

I'm Dale Kerrigan, and this is my story.

I hope McLachlan has his trunk up.

Hooray! Where's Dennis Denuto when you need him?

F... Demetriou and the AFL for hijacking the history of Australian Rules and making it VFL only
F... the SANFL who have just become puppets for Demetriou
F... the Crows and Port who have decimated our beloved SANFL competition. They can rot at West Lakes
F... the SACA board who only care about the money they will get and not the history of Adelaide Oval
F... Mike Rann and his bunch of lying cronies

We owe it to Don Bradman and all the other old members who Pipers has been pushing in front of each summer since 1880 to get to his favourite seat TO VOTE NO!!!

SAVE ADELAIDE OVAL!!!

There's one fatal flaw with this analogy Ecky. Dale Kerrigan owned his home, it wasn't built on leased public land.

I think even Bud Tingwell would have trouble with that one.

[Ecky]

There's one fatal flaw with this analogy Ecky. Dale Kerrigan owned his home, it wasn't built on leased public land.

I think even Bud Tingwell would have trouble with that one.

That doesn't matter Chief - we are still being asked to give up something we don't want to. Of course the analogy isn't exactly the same.

[Drop Bear]

There's one fatal flaw with this analogy Ecky. Dale Kerrigan owned his home, it wasn't built on leased public land.

I think even Bud Tingwell would have trouble with that one.

That doesn't matter Chief - we are still being asked to give up something we don't want to. Of course the analogy isn't exactly the same.

What do you know about lead?