Grade Cricket

[bloods08]

any more scores bloods08???

Sturt 6/108

Try this link for regular scores

http://www.totalcricketscorer.com/TCSLi ... px?id=3117

[Bulls forever]

Charlie walker in particular needs changing and has done for years. When a team gets washed out while fielding that teams keeper gets no votes while every other teams that play or fielded the week prior pick up votes. Likewise when a team has the bye and other teams get washed out you can effectively catch up votes. It doesn't equal out and the easy answer is to do average votes per game for keepers playing over say 5 games. Not as big a deal for fielders or bradman medal as not every player gets voted on each game unlike keepers.

An excellent point actually. Never thought of it. An average over the games is a very good way to do it. You are right, as sometimes a wicketkeeper might not be in action for a month through rain and fielding last, although this summer is clearly the wettest I can remember and unlikely to happen again. Whilst like the Brownlow medal and Magarey medals, I think we place too much emphasis on the voting of the umpires. I know we need them to have a game (as per all sports). Cricket unlike Football, is influenced by rain and conditions and voting is often not entirely accurate, when basing it on the rest of the games in the competition, when some clubs play and others are washed out. These ideas are making too much sense and make for good discussion and that means that the SACA would never consider them however. (If if makes too much sense at the SACA, then disregard the idea or debate and do something 180 degrees from conventional or reasonable discussion)

Davo, I hope you are not forgetting that every player gets voted on each game, be it the Bradman or the Talbot or the Charlie, agree with the umpire bit, but under the average rule, if Manou (just for example) plays 5 games and gets the best average, does he win the Charlie. Of course there will be huge anomolies, but take the winner this year, missed a game due to wedding in the family, so in fact his average goes up. Not sure they will be the perfect answer, but I guess the umpires will argue that they started the Bradman Awards, why change it.

[davo]

Charlie walker in particular needs changing and has done for years. When a team gets washed out while fielding that teams keeper gets no votes while every other teams that play or fielded the week prior pick up votes. Likewise when a team has the bye and other teams get washed out you can effectively catch up votes. It doesn't equal out and the easy answer is to do average votes per game for keepers playing over say 5 games. Not as big a deal for fielders or bradman medal as not every player gets voted on each game unlike keepers.

An excellent point actually. Never thought of it. An average over the games is a very good way to do it. You are right, as sometimes a wicketkeeper might not be in action for a month through rain and fielding last, although this summer is clearly the wettest I can remember and unlikely to happen again. Whilst like the Brownlow medal and Magarey medals, I think we place too much emphasis on the voting of the umpires. I know we need them to have a game (as per all sports). Cricket unlike Football, is influenced by rain and conditions and voting is often not entirely accurate, when basing it on the rest of the games in the competition, when some clubs play and others are washed out. These ideas are making too much sense and make for good discussion and that means that the SACA would never consider them however. (If if makes too much sense at the SACA, then disregard the idea or debate and do something 180 degrees from conventional or reasonable discussion)

Davo, I hope you are not forgetting that every player gets voted on each game, be it the Bradman or the Talbot or the Charlie, agree with the umpire bit, but under the average rule, if Manou (just for example) plays 5 games and gets the best average, does he win the Charlie. Of course there will be huge anomolies, but take the winner this year, missed a game due to wedding in the family, so in fact his average goes up. Not sure they will be the perfect answer, but I guess the umpires will argue that they started the Bradman Awards, why change it.

Again more very good points Bull, as per nearly all of your posts. Possibly no reason to change it, as you said. All this does is open sensible debate and discussion, which is good and where hopefully someone from the SACA, may look at ideas, that are not wild and silly and see that others from outside the Ivory Tower, have some very good thoughts. Perhaps a think tank from people outside of the Ivory Tower may present some decent ideas, for the good of cricket. People that have been around grade cricket for a reasonable time, would be ideal. In all. I am sure that there are some very good ideas from all 13 of the clubs and not just the odd handful of people at the SACA, who seemingly get things horribly wrong and with limited consultation process (from what we all hear at our club and from our club delegates). There really are some weird and crazy things that we all hear about and unfortunately, these ideas are implemented into the game, which does nothing to assist cricket at grade level. 20/20 matches at U16 and U14 level over 4 games this season is one example and then followed up by a carnival of 20/20 matches for U12 lads. These lads should be taught the fundamentals of cricket, before this hit and giggle crap.

[smac]

Seriously, give the Grade Clubs a hard time over that crap. They control the competition, the trophies and what goes on - if there are issues, go to your local grade club and tell them. SACA can't change a thing without a majority of the 13 grade clubs voting it through.

[helicopterking]

Sturt lose, well done Kensington, peaked at the right time. Bad Luck Sturt better luck next year

[ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS]

congratulations to southern district B GRADE premiers.
on a sour note they have lost one of their most experienced
players to prospect. Chris "nugget" O'Connor is making the
move to prospect to open their A GRADE. They have been luring him
all year since his great mate delaney moved there last season.
good luck nugget don't play for turn against the stingray spinners
next season.

[Bag The Points]

congratulations to southern district B GRADE premiers.
on a sour note they have lost one of their most experienced
players to prospect. Chris "nugget" O'Connor is making the
move to prospect to open their A GRADE. They have been luring him
all year since his great mate delaney moved there last season.
good luck nugget don't play for turn against the stingray spinners
next season.

Not good news for a Stingray supporter. That would reduce us to just one "Nugget" in the club (Nicole "Nugget" Adams being the other one).
That reminds me, well done to the Stingray girls making the finals in their second A-Grade season. Old Joe's done a top job with them.
Meanwhile on the male Nugg ---- if Prospect indeed get him I hope he does a Kendrick --- go to the Pirates but back again soon.

[smithy]

congratulations to southern district B GRADE premiers.
on a sour note they have lost one of their most experienced
players to prospect. Chris "nugget" O'Connor is making the
move to prospect to open their A GRADE. They have been luring him
all year since his great mate delaney moved there last season.
good luck nugget don't play for turn against the stingray spinners
next season.

Not good news for a Stingray supporter. That would reduce us to just one "Nugget" in the club (Nicole "Nugget" Adams being the other one).
That reminds me, well done to the Stingray girls making the finals in their second A-Grade season. Old Joe's done a top job with them.
Meanwhile on the male Nugg ---- if Prospect indeed get him I hope he does a Kendrick --- go to the Pirates but back again soon.

Another Port Noarlunga prodigy making the grade.

[Bulls forever]

Seriously, give the Grade Clubs a hard time over that crap. They control the competition, the trophies and what goes on - if there are issues, go to your local grade club and tell them. SACA can't change a thing without a majority of the 13 grade clubs voting it through.

MMMMMMMMMMMM, not sure I agree with you there SMAC. In all my years of involvement, the Bradman and associated trophies have never been discussed. I am not saying they are wrong, because after all, they are umpires awards, all of them and they are controlled by the umpires. All SACA do for the Bradman is faciliate the night, and credit to Kate and Shane before, top night, good value, wine very very good. I would like to see the reintroduction of a guest speaker, but I guess Mr Alderman was the reason for the change - good selection would make that another highlight of the night. Pretty sure you couldn't get the Grade Clubs to agree on much at all. The strangest one I heard at a Grade Cricket forum was a current player, no names, saying that we start the season with 20/20 games because they would be a good warm up for the season, perhaps explains why that club struggle to bat 20 overs every game. I do know from the Presidents meeting that 20/20 for C, D and juniors will become a thing of the past, not sure what planet whoever came up with those ideas was on. Sure CA are pushing this format, but recognise it for what it is, money into the game.

So SMAC, give my your thought on the original question about the CW winner should be in Grade team of the year. Plus that team is the only one voted by people other than the umpires.

[smac]

Mate, unfortunately the facts are that all SACA does is facilitate the will of the Grade cricket committee.

Personally, I think if there is a position awarded with a trophy it should automatically get inclusion in the team of the year.

[Footy Smart]

Interesting rumour floating around the Bradman Medal, that the Medalist is seriously contemplating a large offer from Adelaide who are looking to ensure they dont bottom out........

[Slots It Through]

Interesting rumour floating around the Bradman Medal, that the Medalist is seriously contemplating a large offer from Adelaide who are looking to ensure they dont bottom out........

May be a done deal if Dean Sayers becomes the A grade coach there....

Interesting that club great Luke Williams has made a move to Port in a coaching role.

[interested observer]

Interesting rumour floating around the Bradman Medal, that the Medalist is seriously contemplating a large offer from Adelaide who are looking to ensure they dont bottom out........

Have heard a little whisper that he may actually be heading to another state for greater opportunity...

[FOOTY TALK]

sayers had a meeting with cox & berry last thursday night i think.

[CoverKing]

sayers had a meeting with cox & berry last thursday night i think.

that he did. apparently WACA are considering him, but i reckon he may stay at adelaide oval

[helicopterking]

sayers had a meeting with cox & berry last thursday night i think.

that he did. apparently WACA are considering him, but i reckon he may stay at adelaide oval

Doesnt sound like a bad move to go West! He will probably be the first one they point the finger at when the Redbacks drop the first few games!
Sounds like some players are on the move, anyone else got any names floating around?

[mickey]

Sounds like some players are on the move, anyone else got any names floating around?

and threatened with

[helicopterking]

From what i hear is that Glenelg might be trying to lure some batters from Southern Districts and surrounding clubs and are pretty confident in doing so!

[Bulls forever]

From what i hear is that Glenelg might be trying to lure some batters from Southern Districts and surrounding clubs and are pretty confident in doing so!

HCK, see they advertised for a coach on the weekend, I would have thought that it is pretty hard to chase players when you don't even know who the coach will be. But I think Garrett might be a high priority for them, no idea where he lives so totally uneducated guess. From what I have seen he is a Southerns boy through and through. I think everyone is trying to find batters, priority and what eventuates are two different things, unless they have good money to throw around.

[heater31]

From what i hear is that Glenelg might be trying to lure some batters from Southern Districts and surrounding clubs and are pretty confident in doing so!

Not happy with the one that fell into their lap one week into last season