Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

[wycbloods]

Any way it has been a bit boring on here lately and good to see it has been brought back to life.

[Jabber]

Well CK has started something here .

Personally i believe Greg's approach to skippering the side, i can only go by what i witnessed and that of others i have spoken to from other sides, has been to put forward the younger players he feels have talent and give them a go in section 1. He has obviously felt this is the best way to go, that is clearly debatable and i think what CK has questioned is has he hidden behind this and used it as an exucse to not stand up and try and lead the side by example and hopefully have the younger members of the side follow his lead.

For example he hasn't bowled nearly as many overs recently has some of the others in his side. I think Greg is held in reasonably high regards throughout the comp for his bowling, again my opinion but it looks from afar that he has put the development of the younger brigade ahead of what i would consider their best attempts to be as competitive as possible.

My thoughts and not sure whether people agree or not but i am certain people criticising the PFCC committee on here isn't going to solve any of the problems that have been discussed.

It is much easier for people to sit back and criticise than it is to get of you arse and help create some change at your club and perhaps that is where some people should invest their time instead of having potshots at those who have given it a go, whether they were successful or not.

A lot more diplomatically put, and possibly closer to the mark.

I'm not going to go into the ins-and-outs of what plympton's goals are and the way we are/have attempted to achieve them. Because that's for Plympton to worry about, just like any other Club.

Its easy to kick a club when it's down, and more easier to kick the leader of a team that has under performed, which is what occured last night on here and in part into today.

What I am in utter disbelief of is figjam's rant on here... which to say the least is astounding, to have a crack at the people that are attempting to set a course for the club into the future. I'm all for healthy debate, in the right forum (certainly not this one), but to "bash" the people who put thier hands up to do the work is amazing.

Lucky there are some out there with thick skins, while others walk around with thick skulls.

[wycbloods]

Well CK has started something here .

Personally i believe Greg's approach to skippering the side, i can only go by what i witnessed and that of others i have spoken to from other sides, has been to put forward the younger players he feels have talent and give them a go in section 1. He has obviously felt this is the best way to go, that is clearly debatable and i think what CK has questioned is has he hidden behind this and used it as an exucse to not stand up and try and lead the side by example and hopefully have the younger members of the side follow his lead.

For example he hasn't bowled nearly as many overs recently has some of the others in his side. I think Greg is held in reasonably high regards throughout the comp for his bowling, again my opinion but it looks from afar that he has put the development of the younger brigade ahead of what i would consider their best attempts to be as competitive as possible.

My thoughts and not sure whether people agree or not but i am certain people criticising the PFCC committee on here isn't going to solve any of the problems that have been discussed.

It is much easier for people to sit back and criticise than it is to get of you arse and help create some change at your club and perhaps that is where some people should invest their time instead of having potshots at those who have given it a go, whether they were successful or not.

A lot more diplomatically put, and possibly closer to the mark.

I'm not going to go into the ins-and-outs of what plympton's goals are and the way we are/have attempted to achieve them. Because that's for Plympton to worry about, just like any other Club.

Its easy to kick a club when it's down, and more easier to kick the leader of a team that has under performed, which is what occured last night on here and in part into today.

What I am in utter disbelief of is figjam's rant on here... which to say the least is astounding, to have a crack at the people that are attempting to set a course for the club into the future. I'm all for healthy debate, in the right forum (certainly not this one), but to "bash" the people who put thier hands up to do the work is amazing.

Lucky there are some out there with thick skins, while others walk around with thick skulls.

I think his username says a little about the type of person he is.

[Jabber]

Well CK has started something here .

Personally i believe Greg's approach to skippering the side, i can only go by what i witnessed and that of others i have spoken to from other sides, has been to put forward the younger players he feels have talent and give them a go in section 1. He has obviously felt this is the best way to go, that is clearly debatable and i think what CK has questioned is has he hidden behind this and used it as an exucse to not stand up and try and lead the side by example and hopefully have the younger members of the side follow his lead.

For example he hasn't bowled nearly as many overs recently has some of the others in his side. I think Greg is held in reasonably high regards throughout the comp for his bowling, again my opinion but it looks from afar that he has put the development of the younger brigade ahead of what i would consider their best attempts to be as competitive as possible.

My thoughts and not sure whether people agree or not but i am certain people criticising the PFCC committee on here isn't going to solve any of the problems that have been discussed.

It is much easier for people to sit back and criticise than it is to get of you arse and help create some change at your club and perhaps that is where some people should invest their time instead of having potshots at those who have given it a go, whether they were successful or not.

A lot more diplomatically put, and possibly closer to the mark.

I'm not going to go into the ins-and-outs of what plympton's goals are and the way we are/have attempted to achieve them. Because that's for Plympton to worry about, just like any other Club.

Its easy to kick a club when it's down, and more easier to kick the leader of a team that has under performed, which is what occured last night on here and in part into today.

What I am in utter disbelief of is figjam's rant on here... which to say the least is astounding, to have a crack at the people that are attempting to set a course for the club into the future. I'm all for healthy debate, in the right forum (certainly not this one), but to "bash" the people who put thier hands up to do the work is amazing.

Lucky there are some out there with thick skins, while others walk around with thick skulls.

I think his username says a little about the type of person he is.

Its funny you say that, because i don't actually think it does!

[FIGJAM11]

What I am in utter disbelief of is figjam's rant on here... which to say the least is astounding, to have a crack at the people that are attempting to set a course for the club into the future. I'm all for healthy debate, in the right forum (certainly not this one), but to "bash" the people who put thier hands up to do the work is amazing.

Sorry i thought the subject of relegation was risen and this is a cricket forum that is free for people to express their opinions ? Maybe a few more smiles makes better reading Bloods .....Now Jabber DO NOT go off on your little space trips and read things into my posts that arent there. Re read them thoroughly without adding your drama to it . The point im making is that a one person commitee is not good for a club and if there is any other clubs out there that is run by one person then prove me wrong !

Catch u for a beer soon

[Jabber]

"That has been the problem the past few years, too few have too big a say and unfortuntely have their heads burried in the sand. This possiblity of relegation has arisen because of the pathetic way the club has been run recently"

"My beef is and has always been with certain people who are put in a position and abuse it for their own ego .... Cricket clubs need cricket commitees and not individuals pumping their own chests"

Explain to me how you would read that?

You will be drinking down the empty end of the bar after your shit you have just posted mate, go watch your favourite team at Victor Harbor, you're not required at PFCC.

Best of luck on Oasis Active, hopefully the 10k u paid for hair has paid off.

What I am in utter disbelief of is figjam's rant on here... which to say the least is astounding, to have a crack at the people that are attempting to set a course for the club into the future. I'm all for healthy debate, in the right forum (certainly not this one), but to "bash" the people who put thier hands up to do the work is amazing.

Sorry i thought the subject of relegation was risen and this is a cricket forum that is free for people to express their opinions ? Maybe a few more smiles makes better reading Bloods .....Now Jabber DO NOT go off on your little space trips and read things into my posts that arent there. Re read them thoroughly without adding your drama to it . The point im making is that a one person commitee is not good for a club and if there is any other clubs out there that is run by one person then prove me wrong !

Catch u for a beer soon

[Gowser]

I think the Champion Player in my cricket has the top 3 about right. However I'm not sure if it's consistent points for all players. I know the Ramblers can't get any catches to appear in the points when they are are supposed to be worth 1 each. Some clubs haven't entered them.

Mycricket doesnt work like that mate. The number of catches a person takes have to be counted and entered as an interger for each player, it doesnt 'pull' that info from names entered in the scorecard. If you look at the bottom of a scorecard you will notice under the bowling figures that there is a tally for catches, run outs and stumpings, that is where the data is pulled from to allocate championship points.

Also, Plympton should not be relegated regardless of where they finish. WOS have to go.

[woodublieve12]

i would take FIGJAMS comments like a grain a salt..
He states all the negatives bout the club but he's one of the main insticators down there!!! Almost nearlly impossibe to captain him... Bitches and moans when it doesn't go his way. For example the year the B's played off in the GF he played the bare minimum to qualify for finals and in those games he contributed very little. He may have made a 30 odd...
He very rarely trained, but when finals came round he was there at training... As soon as the GF side was selected, and he missed out he carried on like a spoilt child! Even though he didnt earn his spot! And when we lost He bagged the captain, myself and everyone in the side!! That has stuck with me since. Not once was it said to our face....

FJ 'could' bring so many positives to the club. He is a very talented cricketer, and 'could' teach the young lads some great batting advice. I prersonally enjoy batting with him. But i feel he has had chip on shoulder for reasons im not to sure about...

on greg, i feel he has the rite ideas and could be a very good captain for the club... he obviously has things to work on (as does every captain) which im sure the club will address and i will not comment on this forum. and befroe anyone jumps on me from pfcc, they are not negatives they are constructive....

it will be a sad day if pfcc get relegated... and its a shame to see our 2's struggling.. But i know we'll bounce back regardless what ever happens. were a proud club and one of the most successful clubs in the asca and this is a hurdle and we will jump ot and move forward...
GOOD LUCK DOGS!!!

[CoverKing]

I think the Champion Player in my cricket has the top 3 about right. However I'm not sure if it's consistent points for all players. I know the Ramblers can't get any catches to appear in the points when they are are supposed to be worth 1 each. Some clubs haven't entered them.

Mycricket doesnt work like that mate. The number of catches a person takes have to be counted and entered as an interger for each player, it doesnt 'pull' that info from names entered in the scorecard. If you look at the bottom of a scorecard you will notice under the bowling figures that there is a tally for catches, run outs and stumpings, that is where the data is pulled from to allocate championship points.

Also, Plympton should not be relegated regardless of where they finish. WOS have to go.

I think thats what AF was saying wasnt he?

And plympton and WOS might both go. As i said, WOS will fold (IMO, or be relegated), and with North Haven/Belair coming up, if one those win the flag, plus the possibility of Port Noarlunga coming into the comp.

My personal opinion is that if two A grade sides make the GF in section 2, both sides should be promoted in such instance where two sides have been so poor in section 1.

[Jabber]

I think the Champion Player in my cricket has the top 3 about right. However I'm not sure if it's consistent points for all players. I know the Ramblers can't get any catches to appear in the points when they are are supposed to be worth 1 each. Some clubs haven't entered them.

Mycricket doesnt work like that mate. The number of catches a person takes have to be counted and entered as an interger for each player, it doesnt 'pull' that info from names entered in the scorecard. If you look at the bottom of a scorecard you will notice under the bowling figures that there is a tally for catches, run outs and stumpings, that is where the data is pulled from to allocate championship points.

Also, Plympton should not be relegated regardless of where they finish. WOS have to go.

I think thats what AF was saying wasnt he?

And plympton and WOS might both go. As i said, WOS will fold (IMO, or be relegated), and with North Haven/Belair coming up, if one those win the flag, plus the possibility of Port Noarlunga coming into the comp.

My personal opinion is that if two A grade sides make the GF in section 2, both sides should be promoted in such instance where two sides have been so poor in section 1.

Too many variables in your theory, what constitutes poor seasons or poorer than necessary, who makes that decision, what happens if they have very poor seasons ladder wise but only just get beaten in a lot of those games and were quite competitive throughout, who makes that decision.

[Jabber]

i would take FIGJAMS comments like a grain a salt..
He states all the negatives bout the club but he's one of the main insticators down there!!! Almost nearlly impossibe to captain him... Bitches and moans when it doesn't go his way. For example the year the B's played off in the GF he played the bare minimum to qualify for finals and in those games he contributed very little. He may have made a 30 odd...
He very rarely trained, but when finals came round he was there at training... As soon as the GF side was selected, and he missed out he carried on like a spoilt child! Even though he didnt earn his spot! And when we lost He bagged the captain, myself and everyone in the side!! That has stuck with me since. Not once was it said to our face....

FJ 'could' bring so many positives to the club. He is a very talented cricketer, and 'could' teach the young lads some great batting advice. I prersonally enjoy batting with him. But i feel he has had chip on shoulder for reasons im not to sure about...

on greg, i feel he has the rite ideas and could be a very good captain for the club... he obviously has things to work on (as does every captain) which im sure the club will address and i will not comment on this forum. and befroe anyone jumps on me from pfcc, they are not negatives they are constructive....

it will be a sad day if pfcc get relegated... and its a shame to see our 2's struggling.. But i know we'll bounce back regardless what ever happens. were a proud club and one of the most successful clubs in the asca and this is a hurdle and we will jump ot and move forward...
GOOD LUCK DOGS!!!

Constructive and well said

[Gowser]

Ahhh he might have CK, i thought it read that Ramblers weren't getting their catches to appear because other clubs weren't entering them.

Belair are not a div 1 side and there oval is not fit for cricket full stop, played them on the weekend.

PS: How is your WC multi lookin?

[CoverKing]

Ahhh he might have CK, i thought it read that Ramblers weren't getting their catches to appear because other clubs weren't entering them.

Belair are not a div 1 side and there oval is not fit for cricket full stop, played them on the weekend.

PS: How is your WC multi lookin?

Iv never played a Belair so cant comment, although charging to enter the ground is bull crap.

i just wouldnt mind the section 1 changing a bit more often, aslong as the standard is still strong.

WC multi - Devillers most runs for SAF - check
Sehwag most runs for India - (looking alright, tendulkar the worry)
Afridi most wickets pakistan, will easily get this
johnson most wickets aus- ahead of tait by 2
bresnan most wickets eng - leading at the moment

the worry is taylor most runs for NZ, batted once in 3 games, only made 7... need him to score big

[bazza1]

I was in the same position Greg is in the season before last, lots of young lads and not much experience. The trouble with that is, as a captain you want to give these guys every opportunity to succeed and by doing that you put yourself last. I see what he is trying to do and I dont think you can be to critical until you have captained a side that hasnt had much success and been in the same position.

[CoverKing]

I was in the same position Greg is in the season before last, lots of young lads and not much experience. The trouble with that is, as a captain you want to give these guys every opportunity to succeed and by doing that you put yourself last. I see what he is trying to do and I dont think you can be to critical until you have captained a side that hasnt had much success and been in the same position.

I wasnt just questioning that Bazza. It was also his attitude towards his teammates and opposition players aswell. He continually told them that if they were continuing to play that bad and get relegated he would leave.

You may have been in the same position, but you always had a positive attitude, and not only captained the side, but you were a coach at the same time on the field. The attitude and leadership was what i put into question.

The committee stuff that FJ was talking about, well committee's, even if in someones opinion are no good, atleast they are doing the work, volunteering their time to help the club move forward. People that criticise committees, and dont help out themselves, are those people that the club doesnt need

[bazza1]

I wasnt aiming that at anyone in particular, I was just trying to point out that its hard to have a team for of young lads and doing the best for your team. My positive attidude comes from playing 500 saturdays

[CoverKing]

I wasnt aiming that at anyone in particular, I was just trying to point out that its hard to have a team for of young lads and doing the best for your team. My positive attidude comes from playing 500 saturdays

how does that bring a positive attitude?? i couldnt think of anything worse than spending so many saturdays with the brother

[woodublieve12]

Ahhh he might have CK, i thought it read that Ramblers weren't getting their catches to appear because other clubs weren't entering them.

Belair are not a div 1 side and there oval is not fit for cricket full stop, played them on the weekend.

PS: How is your WC multi lookin?

agree with the oval... nothing like a kangaroo hopping across the ground.. ...

[bazza1]

I wasnt aiming that at anyone in particular, I was just trying to point out that its hard to have a team for of young lads and doing the best for your team. My positive attidude comes from playing 500 saturdays

how does that bring a positive attitude?? i couldnt think of anything worse than spending so many saturdays with the brother

Or Christie

[Amateur Footy]

I think the Champion Player in my cricket has the top 3 about right. However I'm not sure if it's consistent points for all players. I know the Ramblers can't get any catches to appear in the points when they are are supposed to be worth 1 each. Some clubs haven't entered them.

Mycricket doesnt work like that mate. The number of catches a person takes have to be counted and entered as an interger for each player, it doesnt 'pull' that info from names entered in the scorecard. If you look at the bottom of a scorecard you will notice under the bowling figures that there is a tally for catches, run outs and stumpings, that is where the data is pulled from to allocate championship points.

Also, Plympton should not be relegated regardless of where they finish. WOS have to go.

thanks - never taken any notice of that. Id assumed that by putting "Caught" against an opposition batsman and then entering the fielder the system would be capable of recording the catches. Clearly not.