Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

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Does Andrew Bolt have credibility as a journalist?

1. yes
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32%
2. no
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52%
3. unsure
7
7%
4. don't care
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9%
 
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby cripple » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:02 pm

Dont know if its been brought up yet, but recently bolt has been one of the 7PM projects regular guests in a rotation with shock jocks and journo's including Negus and Steve Price.
I always get the feeling that when he is on there is very interested in pumping up his own tyres and the tyres of those he shares common points of view with, whilst not really asking questions but rather berating those that he assumes or knows will have different views to his.
A couple of times his journalistic skills have been shown up when given a response or answer and he does a "tony abbott" and just freezes. This has given me the feeling that he is very good at taking pot shots when no one has any real right of immediate reply, but when confronted on the spot he struggles to portray his true feelings and personal convictions. Has not enhanced his "credible journalist" tag in my eyes.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Darth Vader » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:23 pm

Some journalists are really good for print because they can research, form an opinion and apply the angle before crafting their story. Others are pretty average with the written word but are good on air - tv or radio. quick on their feet, think in levels most of us can only envy and have the gift of the gab.
When either branch of the trade crosses over it is a gamble. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Perhaps Bolt is in the latter
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby cripple » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:34 pm

I understand what your saying darth, but for someone with such strong views on so many controversial topics to seem stuck in the headlights doesn't sit well with me. Also i am not sure how much 'developed research" goes into his opinion pieces
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:35 pm

Darth Vader wrote:Some journalists are really good for print because they can research, form an opinion and apply the angle before crafting their story. Others are pretty average with the written word but are good on air - tv or radio. quick on their feet, think in levels most of us can only envy and have the gift of the gab.
When either branch of the trade crosses over it is a gamble. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Perhaps Bolt is in the latter


Precisely why he is rubbish at verbal critical argument - because he doesn't do the research. His articles are full of misinformation and rhetoric.

You don't need to be overly charismatic to present sound verbal arguments, you just need to know what you're talking about.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Darth Vader » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:38 pm

Quichey wrote:
Darth Vader wrote:Some journalists are really good for print because they can research, form an opinion and apply the angle before crafting their story. Others are pretty average with the written word but are good on air - tv or radio. quick on their feet, think in levels most of us can only envy and have the gift of the gab.
When either branch of the trade crosses over it is a gamble. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Perhaps Bolt is in the latter


Precisely why he is rubbish at verbal critical argument - because he doesn't do the research. His articles are full of misinformation and rhetoric.You don't need to be overly charismatic to present sound verbal arguments, you just need to know what you're talking about.

can you give me some exampls of this quiche
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:00 pm

There are a heap of links in this very thread that can provide you with examples.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:08 pm

can you recommend a particular link quichey? I'd like to take a squiz
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:20 pm

You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:

His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real. Flick through the 'Pure Poison' blog @ Crikey, which contains articles highlighting his errors.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Psyber » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:24 pm

Quichey wrote:You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:
His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real.
Agreed there Quichey - that ain't any form of science.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:25 pm

cool. thanks
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby fish » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:52 pm

Quichey wrote:You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:

His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real.
I always get a laugh when people say that. When I point out that we've recently had the HOTTEST DECADE ON RECORD they seem to have a Tony Abbott moment... :lol:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:25 pm

fish wrote:
Quichey wrote:You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:

His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real.
I always get a laugh when people say that. When I point out that we've recently had the HOTTEST DECADE ON RECORD they seem to have a Tony Abbott moment... :lol:

I always get a laugh when people profess to know the answers. Seperating fact from commercial interest is difficult. Once politicians are involved it becomes a polling issue andPollies are terrified of polls. The facts become the first casualty.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:31 pm

The truth is out there.


Doo-dee-doo-dee-doo-doo. Doo-deeeee-doo.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:33 pm

Quichey wrote:The truth is out there.


Doo-dee-doo-dee-doo-doo. Doo-deeeee-doo.

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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby fish » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:33 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:
fish wrote:
Quichey wrote:You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:

His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real.
I always get a laugh when people say that. When I point out that we've recently had the HOTTEST DECADE ON RECORD they seem to have a Tony Abbott moment... :lol:
I always get a laugh when people profess to know the answers. Seperating fact from commercial interest is difficult. Once politicians are involved it becomes a polling issue andPollies are terrified of polls. The facts become the first casualty.
Are you saying that we haven't recently had the hottest decade on record? :?
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:41 pm

fish wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:
fish wrote:
Quichey wrote:You can peruse this thread in your own time, but I will point to one example:

His constant false extrapolations that a colder and wetter winter means global warming is not real.
I always get a laugh when people say that. When I point out that we've recently had the HOTTEST DECADE ON RECORD they seem to have a Tony Abbott moment... :lol:
I always get a laugh when people profess to know the answers. Seperating fact from commercial interest is difficult. Once politicians are involved it becomes a polling issue andPollies are terrified of polls. The facts become the first casualty.
Are you saying that we haven't recently had the hottest decade on record? :?

Are you saying I am compelled to believe a scientific fact?
I am a 'two sides to every story' person. Skeptics (even some with beards and degrees) reckon the thing is BS. Other scientists with beards open toe sandals and who ride bikes along Greenhill Road to work reckon we all doomed. Politicians remain divided. I am a humble person in the street - who do I believe FFS
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Gozu » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:03 am

Sky Pilot wrote:I am a humble person in the street - who do I believe FFS


I don't know around 90% of the scientific community?
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby dedja » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:13 am

Andrew Bolt is an extreme right wing looney.

Thread now back on track.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:18 am

Phew I'm glad the thread is back on track. Andrew Bolt is a genius. His work pisses off the left wing looneys which is fantastic for democracy.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby White Line Fever » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:37 am

Quichey wrote:The truth is out there.


Doo-dee-doo-dee-doo-doo. Doo-deeeee-doo.


I've tryed every way of humming this out loud and I'm not sure where you were going with your doo-dee-doo.

Is this the X-Files tune when weird stuff happens?
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