Here's an interesting scenario - Seven breaches the privacy of a NSW Minister yet the story is ruled to be in the public interest? So does this mean that privacy breaches are now fine if the outcomes are assessed to be in the public interest?
http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_312442
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Re: The media - good or bad?
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by Squawk » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:31 pm
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Squawk » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:44 pm
This one is targeted right at Darth Vader - it is exactly on point with this thread. If you visit the original article, further reference links are contained within the body of the story.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/43806.html
How mainstream journalism makes us dumber by Tim Dunlop, 10 Feb 2011
Another day, another mainstream journalist blaming ‘the internet’, for all that ails us.
In an otherwise interesting story about a group of American ‘tea partiers’, Michael Brissenden explains how these US citizens misinformed themselves about something our Prime Minister said about Muslims. Not only do they get the facts wrong, they couldn’t even get the PM’s name right.
Brissenden jumps to a lazy conclusion (emphasis added):
An increasing number of people on the left and the right in this country now get much of their media input from people and organisations that simply reinforce their own beliefs, for the Tea Party crowd that means Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the like, but above all the internet is where the Tea Party lives, breathes and organises...
For the Tea Party activists and political representatives alike it's all about the net - because here you can say pretty much what you like to people like you and get away with it.
No doubt there is nonsense written on the net - d’uh - but it’s about time journalists stopped dismissing it with sweeping generalisations and their oh-so superior yawn and looked a little closer to home for the causes of citizen disaffection and half-knowledge.
As I write this, the mainstream media in Australia is swept up in yet another series of non-stories about confected controversies involving our politicians.
Channel Seven verballed Tony Abbott, digging up some old footage of him in Afghanistan and editing it in such a way so as to make it look like he said something insensitive about a soldier who died there.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Gillard’s emotional speech to parliament On Tuesday is being put through the ringer of speculation, with mainstream journalists like Andrew Bolt hinting that her tears were fake.
This in turn gives his employer, that pillar of conservative Melbourne, the Herald Sun, license to publish comments from readers saying out loud what he merely suggested.
Elsewhere that very serious journalist, Dennis Shanahan, churns out a piece that dices with the same sort of speculation. And on and on it goes.
The point is, if, like Brissenden, we are going to get upset about misinformation, trivia, distraction and nonsense infecting our political discourse, then our eyes should be upon mainstream media outlets, not the internet. The so-called serious media is the true echo chamber, and, more importantly, it is the one that has the most immediate and far-reaching consequences for political discussion, not to mention, political practise.
Every day, the mainstream media, by its choice of stories and the way it frames them, serves us up a fusion of fact and fiction, speculation and opinion, tripe and trivia that is wrapped in the cloak of its own legitimacy.
Simply by offering it to us, they vouch for it, and like Brissenden, they implicitly hold up what they do as the standard of professionalism against which the nasty old internet is judged. But you don’t have to look hard to know that the mainstream is afflicted with its own shortcomings.
Take this standard story by journalist James Massola:
Families face electricity price rises of up to $1,100 a year under a “hybrid’’ carbon price model to be put to the multi-party committee redrawing Australia's climate change response, the federal Opposition says.
Framing a story around something the Opposition says is a favourite way for journalists to spin an anti-government line, but that is the least of our worries here.
As economist John Quiggin pointed out, “Oz reporter James Massola doesn’t check the arithmetic behind this scary claim,” and let’s stand an easily rectified error. Quiggin does the calculation and concludes:
Using black coal as the fuel source, a tonne of CO2 is emitted for each MWh generated, so the tax comes out at three cents per kilowatt hour. Our hypothetical family would have to use nearly 40 000 kWh each year. The average NSW household uses 7300 Kwh/year, putting Hunt’s claim out by a factor of five.
In other words, if you believed Massola’s story, you would be misinformed.
Here’s another example. The mainstream media has routinely been reporting that cyclone Yasi was a category 5 cyclone, but was it? To their credit, the ABC investigated the matter on their Science site and after speaking with Professor Jonathan Nott from the Australasian Palaeohazards Research Unit with James Cook University concluded:
Winds are measured by official weather bureau anemometers on the ground, although good estimates can also be made from satellite data.
Using this system, Yasi appears to be a category 5, although it could take officials six months to confirm that through studies, says Nott.
So, despite the now accepted ‘fact’ - as reported by the majority of the mainstream media - we don’t really know if Yasi was a category 5.
Why does this matter?
Well, for one thing, the media should get stuff like that right, especially when it routinely disparages ‘the internet’ for its loose ways with the facts. But as Ken G, in a piece examining the issue points out, there is another, very practical reason:
Houses in both North Queensland and the Northern Territory are required to be engineered to withstand category 4 cyclones. But there’s a huge difference between 200 km/h winds (the strongest gusts in a smallish Category 4 cyclone) and 300 km/h winds. Winds around 300 km/h actually exert forces on buildings that are twice as strong as at 200 km/h, so that a house engineered to withstand the former may well not survive the latter. If people living around Innisfail, Tully and Mission Beach are left with an erroneous understanding that their houses withstood a Category 5 cyclone (as most did), it may well be much more difficult next time a large cyclone threatens to persuade them to evacuate their homes and save their lives.
Media hyperbole may end up being a contemporary version of the boy who cried wolf once too often.
To take one final example, look at the issue of climate change. By simply adhering to their own news values - especially those of ‘conflict’ and ‘balance’ - the mainstream media has turned a major issue of science and policy into an ideological poo-fight, where so-called sceptics are given equal credence to legitimate climate scientists.
The media, including the ABC, routinely lend their authority to the likes of Lord Monkton and other fringe figures, and give their rantings a credibility they simply do not deserve. Instead of leading a sensible debate on this key issue, the mainstream media - simply by doing the job as it sees it - has been the source of endless misinformation and has done enormous harm to attempts at mitigation.
That is to say, if you relied on the mainstream media for your information about climate change - particularly The Australian - you would be seriously misinformed on the matter. And that misinformation has genuine ramifications for policy.
So sure, the internet can be a sewer; but the real damage is done when the mainstream media becomes too addicted to conflict, or hides behind the cloak of ‘balance’, and thus conspires to actively misinform its audience.
What was it Michael Brissenden said again? “[I]t's all about the net - because here you can say pretty much what you like to people like you and get away with it.”
Well, maybe not just the net, truth be told.
Tim Dunlop was the author of two of Australia's most successful political blogs, The Road To Surfdom and Blogocracy.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/43806.html
How mainstream journalism makes us dumber by Tim Dunlop, 10 Feb 2011
Another day, another mainstream journalist blaming ‘the internet’, for all that ails us.
In an otherwise interesting story about a group of American ‘tea partiers’, Michael Brissenden explains how these US citizens misinformed themselves about something our Prime Minister said about Muslims. Not only do they get the facts wrong, they couldn’t even get the PM’s name right.
Brissenden jumps to a lazy conclusion (emphasis added):
An increasing number of people on the left and the right in this country now get much of their media input from people and organisations that simply reinforce their own beliefs, for the Tea Party crowd that means Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the like, but above all the internet is where the Tea Party lives, breathes and organises...
For the Tea Party activists and political representatives alike it's all about the net - because here you can say pretty much what you like to people like you and get away with it.
No doubt there is nonsense written on the net - d’uh - but it’s about time journalists stopped dismissing it with sweeping generalisations and their oh-so superior yawn and looked a little closer to home for the causes of citizen disaffection and half-knowledge.
As I write this, the mainstream media in Australia is swept up in yet another series of non-stories about confected controversies involving our politicians.
Channel Seven verballed Tony Abbott, digging up some old footage of him in Afghanistan and editing it in such a way so as to make it look like he said something insensitive about a soldier who died there.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Gillard’s emotional speech to parliament On Tuesday is being put through the ringer of speculation, with mainstream journalists like Andrew Bolt hinting that her tears were fake.
This in turn gives his employer, that pillar of conservative Melbourne, the Herald Sun, license to publish comments from readers saying out loud what he merely suggested.
Elsewhere that very serious journalist, Dennis Shanahan, churns out a piece that dices with the same sort of speculation. And on and on it goes.
The point is, if, like Brissenden, we are going to get upset about misinformation, trivia, distraction and nonsense infecting our political discourse, then our eyes should be upon mainstream media outlets, not the internet. The so-called serious media is the true echo chamber, and, more importantly, it is the one that has the most immediate and far-reaching consequences for political discussion, not to mention, political practise.
Every day, the mainstream media, by its choice of stories and the way it frames them, serves us up a fusion of fact and fiction, speculation and opinion, tripe and trivia that is wrapped in the cloak of its own legitimacy.
Simply by offering it to us, they vouch for it, and like Brissenden, they implicitly hold up what they do as the standard of professionalism against which the nasty old internet is judged. But you don’t have to look hard to know that the mainstream is afflicted with its own shortcomings.
Take this standard story by journalist James Massola:
Families face electricity price rises of up to $1,100 a year under a “hybrid’’ carbon price model to be put to the multi-party committee redrawing Australia's climate change response, the federal Opposition says.
Framing a story around something the Opposition says is a favourite way for journalists to spin an anti-government line, but that is the least of our worries here.
As economist John Quiggin pointed out, “Oz reporter James Massola doesn’t check the arithmetic behind this scary claim,” and let’s stand an easily rectified error. Quiggin does the calculation and concludes:
Using black coal as the fuel source, a tonne of CO2 is emitted for each MWh generated, so the tax comes out at three cents per kilowatt hour. Our hypothetical family would have to use nearly 40 000 kWh each year. The average NSW household uses 7300 Kwh/year, putting Hunt’s claim out by a factor of five.
In other words, if you believed Massola’s story, you would be misinformed.
Here’s another example. The mainstream media has routinely been reporting that cyclone Yasi was a category 5 cyclone, but was it? To their credit, the ABC investigated the matter on their Science site and after speaking with Professor Jonathan Nott from the Australasian Palaeohazards Research Unit with James Cook University concluded:
Winds are measured by official weather bureau anemometers on the ground, although good estimates can also be made from satellite data.
Using this system, Yasi appears to be a category 5, although it could take officials six months to confirm that through studies, says Nott.
So, despite the now accepted ‘fact’ - as reported by the majority of the mainstream media - we don’t really know if Yasi was a category 5.
Why does this matter?
Well, for one thing, the media should get stuff like that right, especially when it routinely disparages ‘the internet’ for its loose ways with the facts. But as Ken G, in a piece examining the issue points out, there is another, very practical reason:
Houses in both North Queensland and the Northern Territory are required to be engineered to withstand category 4 cyclones. But there’s a huge difference between 200 km/h winds (the strongest gusts in a smallish Category 4 cyclone) and 300 km/h winds. Winds around 300 km/h actually exert forces on buildings that are twice as strong as at 200 km/h, so that a house engineered to withstand the former may well not survive the latter. If people living around Innisfail, Tully and Mission Beach are left with an erroneous understanding that their houses withstood a Category 5 cyclone (as most did), it may well be much more difficult next time a large cyclone threatens to persuade them to evacuate their homes and save their lives.
Media hyperbole may end up being a contemporary version of the boy who cried wolf once too often.
To take one final example, look at the issue of climate change. By simply adhering to their own news values - especially those of ‘conflict’ and ‘balance’ - the mainstream media has turned a major issue of science and policy into an ideological poo-fight, where so-called sceptics are given equal credence to legitimate climate scientists.
The media, including the ABC, routinely lend their authority to the likes of Lord Monkton and other fringe figures, and give their rantings a credibility they simply do not deserve. Instead of leading a sensible debate on this key issue, the mainstream media - simply by doing the job as it sees it - has been the source of endless misinformation and has done enormous harm to attempts at mitigation.
That is to say, if you relied on the mainstream media for your information about climate change - particularly The Australian - you would be seriously misinformed on the matter. And that misinformation has genuine ramifications for policy.
So sure, the internet can be a sewer; but the real damage is done when the mainstream media becomes too addicted to conflict, or hides behind the cloak of ‘balance’, and thus conspires to actively misinform its audience.
What was it Michael Brissenden said again? “[I]t's all about the net - because here you can say pretty much what you like to people like you and get away with it.”
Well, maybe not just the net, truth be told.
Tim Dunlop was the author of two of Australia's most successful political blogs, The Road To Surfdom and Blogocracy.
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Squawk » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:14 pm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/02/15/3139724.htm
Australia's most outrageous newspaper
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 15/02/2011
Reporter: Sarah Everingham
The Northern Territory News has become well known beyond the Territory's borders for its larger than life front pages about UFOs and crocodiles. The paper has attracted many fans but also critics who say that Darwin's daily newspaper should provide more serious reading.
Transcript
HEATHER EWART, PRESENTER: For years the Northern Territory News and its sister paper the Sunday Territorian have dominated Darwin's newspaper market.
The NT News has also become known well beyond the Territory's borders for its larger-than-life front pages about crocodiles and UFOs.
The colourful headlines have attracted fans and also critics who say Darwin's only daily should provide more serious reading.
But the NT News argues it's giving readers what they want.
Sara Everingham reports.
NIGEL ADLAM, NORTHERN TERRITORY NEWS: It's bizarre and offbeat and a little bit wild and I think that's great.
JULIAN RICCI, EDITOR, NORTHERN TERRITORY NEWS: Our job is definitely to present the news, but I don't think it's written anywhere that we have to be boring when we do it.
SARA EVERINGHAM, REPORTER: It's not every day a newspaper is the subject of an art exhibition, but tonight, the NT News is being celebrated as a Northern Territory cultural icon.
WOMAN: It's a terrifically entertaining kind of newspaper, especially the front page.
NIGEL ADLAM: Our front pages are often absolute classics that go around the world because they're presented in not just a newsy way, but in an artistic way.
TONY RUTTER, DARWIN RESIDENT: The twilight zone section - UFOs, spacecraft, UFOs, space rockets, 'Seven UFOs Invaded Top End'.
SARA EVERINGHAM: For years, Darwin resident Tony Rutter has been collecting front page posters as souvenirs of life in the Top End.
TONY RUTTER: The NT News hones in on a number of aspects of the Territory that - of Darwin and the Top End in particular, that you don't find so much elsewhere.
SARA EVERINGHAM: The NT News first went to print in 1952 at the height of the Cold War when Darwin's only newspaper was the union-run Northern Standard.
JULIE WELLS, DARWIN HISTORIAN: The Commonwealth was concerned at the time about the very strong pro-Communist line which the Northern Standard was taking.
SARA EVERINGHAM: But within months of the Northern Territory News going to print, the Standard folded and for decades the NT News has been the sole daily paper in Darwin. It started out as a small-time paper, but was soon snapped up by an up-and-coming media proprietor called Rupert Murdoch, who's retained control ever since.
In the early years, the NT News was synonymous with the activist editor Jim Bowditch, who seemed to make headlines as often as he wrote them.
DAVID CARMENT, HISTORIAN: He was a great crusading editor. He took up particular causes. He was very interested in, for example, pushing for the Northern Territory to have greater powers of self-government.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Jim Bowditch took up causes both on and off the page. When three Malay pearl divers faced deportation, he personally intervened in the story and helped hide the men from authorities.
FRANK ALCORTA, FORMER JOURNALIST: That one was in the hands of the unions and I think he reflected that. And the unions were very much left leaning. He reflected that as well. And on the whole, he was very much a reflection of the Northern Territory at the time.
SARA EVERINGHAM: But after Darwin was struck by Cyclone Tracy, one of Australia's worst natural disasters, a new era at the paper began.
FRANK ALCORTA: The paper took it as one of its causes to be involved in the rebuilding of Darwin, and in the rebuilding of a new society there as we saw it.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Today, the front page is more likely to feature crocodiles than politics.
NIGEL ADLAM: 20 or 25 years ago, the newspaper took itself more seriously. We still take ourselves seriously to a certain extent in that we run many of the so-called heavy stories. They're just not on the front page.
SARA EVERINGHAM: The long-time NT News journalist Nigel Adlam says the newspaper is now more in touch with its readers than ever.
But some argue the newspaper is clinging to an outdated image of Darwin.
WARREN SNOWDON, LABOR: It's a sophisticated city. It's still raw in many ways, but a sophisticated city with a sophisticated, intelligent population who like to do some serious reading. So I think it's lifted its game somewhat, but I think there's a bit to go in terms of providing informed discussion in the newspaper.
NIGEL ADLAM: I wouldn't be so pompous and pretentious as to say Northern Territory News is a newspaper of record. It doesn't try to be. But it's still a very Northern Territory product, and we're quite proud of that.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Like it or not, the NT News is now part of the cultural fabric of the Northern Territory.
TONY RUTTER: I hope the newspaper itself continues to provide that kind of local thought, local theme, for some time.
HEATHER EWART: Sara Everingham reporting from the Top End.
Australia's most outrageous newspaper
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcast: 15/02/2011
Reporter: Sarah Everingham
The Northern Territory News has become well known beyond the Territory's borders for its larger than life front pages about UFOs and crocodiles. The paper has attracted many fans but also critics who say that Darwin's daily newspaper should provide more serious reading.
Transcript
HEATHER EWART, PRESENTER: For years the Northern Territory News and its sister paper the Sunday Territorian have dominated Darwin's newspaper market.
The NT News has also become known well beyond the Territory's borders for its larger-than-life front pages about crocodiles and UFOs.
The colourful headlines have attracted fans and also critics who say Darwin's only daily should provide more serious reading.
But the NT News argues it's giving readers what they want.
Sara Everingham reports.
NIGEL ADLAM, NORTHERN TERRITORY NEWS: It's bizarre and offbeat and a little bit wild and I think that's great.
JULIAN RICCI, EDITOR, NORTHERN TERRITORY NEWS: Our job is definitely to present the news, but I don't think it's written anywhere that we have to be boring when we do it.
SARA EVERINGHAM, REPORTER: It's not every day a newspaper is the subject of an art exhibition, but tonight, the NT News is being celebrated as a Northern Territory cultural icon.
WOMAN: It's a terrifically entertaining kind of newspaper, especially the front page.
NIGEL ADLAM: Our front pages are often absolute classics that go around the world because they're presented in not just a newsy way, but in an artistic way.
TONY RUTTER, DARWIN RESIDENT: The twilight zone section - UFOs, spacecraft, UFOs, space rockets, 'Seven UFOs Invaded Top End'.
SARA EVERINGHAM: For years, Darwin resident Tony Rutter has been collecting front page posters as souvenirs of life in the Top End.
TONY RUTTER: The NT News hones in on a number of aspects of the Territory that - of Darwin and the Top End in particular, that you don't find so much elsewhere.
SARA EVERINGHAM: The NT News first went to print in 1952 at the height of the Cold War when Darwin's only newspaper was the union-run Northern Standard.
JULIE WELLS, DARWIN HISTORIAN: The Commonwealth was concerned at the time about the very strong pro-Communist line which the Northern Standard was taking.
SARA EVERINGHAM: But within months of the Northern Territory News going to print, the Standard folded and for decades the NT News has been the sole daily paper in Darwin. It started out as a small-time paper, but was soon snapped up by an up-and-coming media proprietor called Rupert Murdoch, who's retained control ever since.
In the early years, the NT News was synonymous with the activist editor Jim Bowditch, who seemed to make headlines as often as he wrote them.
DAVID CARMENT, HISTORIAN: He was a great crusading editor. He took up particular causes. He was very interested in, for example, pushing for the Northern Territory to have greater powers of self-government.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Jim Bowditch took up causes both on and off the page. When three Malay pearl divers faced deportation, he personally intervened in the story and helped hide the men from authorities.
FRANK ALCORTA, FORMER JOURNALIST: That one was in the hands of the unions and I think he reflected that. And the unions were very much left leaning. He reflected that as well. And on the whole, he was very much a reflection of the Northern Territory at the time.
SARA EVERINGHAM: But after Darwin was struck by Cyclone Tracy, one of Australia's worst natural disasters, a new era at the paper began.
FRANK ALCORTA: The paper took it as one of its causes to be involved in the rebuilding of Darwin, and in the rebuilding of a new society there as we saw it.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Today, the front page is more likely to feature crocodiles than politics.
NIGEL ADLAM: 20 or 25 years ago, the newspaper took itself more seriously. We still take ourselves seriously to a certain extent in that we run many of the so-called heavy stories. They're just not on the front page.
SARA EVERINGHAM: The long-time NT News journalist Nigel Adlam says the newspaper is now more in touch with its readers than ever.
But some argue the newspaper is clinging to an outdated image of Darwin.
WARREN SNOWDON, LABOR: It's a sophisticated city. It's still raw in many ways, but a sophisticated city with a sophisticated, intelligent population who like to do some serious reading. So I think it's lifted its game somewhat, but I think there's a bit to go in terms of providing informed discussion in the newspaper.
NIGEL ADLAM: I wouldn't be so pompous and pretentious as to say Northern Territory News is a newspaper of record. It doesn't try to be. But it's still a very Northern Territory product, and we're quite proud of that.
SARA EVERINGHAM: Like it or not, the NT News is now part of the cultural fabric of the Northern Territory.
TONY RUTTER: I hope the newspaper itself continues to provide that kind of local thought, local theme, for some time.
HEATHER EWART: Sara Everingham reporting from the Top End.
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Dirko » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:16 pm
Trust me, being up there in wet season there's only so much you can take. The NT News headline is a 5 second relief from the bloody humidity !
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by Sky Pilot » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:41 pm
watching "Kochie" deliver a story from the ripped up streets of downtown Christchurch really pissed me off. It was on Sky News. Why isn't the Kochmeister back in the Martin Place studio in Sydney hosting his seriously dumbed down breakfast show and give the assigment to a graduate journalist? Would create employment and still get the job done but with added credibility.
IMHO this is poor media
IMHO this is poor media
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by OnSong » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:14 am
Sky Pilot wrote:watching "Kochie" deliver a story from the ripped up streets of downtown Christchurch really pissed me off. It was on Sky News. Why isn't the Kochmeister back in the Martin Place studio in Sydney hosting his seriously dumbed down breakfast show and give the assigment to a graduate journalist? Would create employment and still get the job done but with added credibility.
IMHO this is poor media
Kochie is poor media in general
Right in front of me. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Sky Pilot » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:52 am
OnSong wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:watching "Kochie" deliver a story from the ripped up streets of downtown Christchurch really pissed me off. It was on Sky News. Why isn't the Kochmeister back in the Martin Place studio in Sydney hosting his seriously dumbed down breakfast show and give the assigment to a graduate journalist? Would create employment and still get the job done but with added credibility.
IMHO this is poor media
Kochie is poor media in general
Yeah and struggles by on $7m pa I think
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by scoob » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:06 am
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/te ... 6011030409
Hope he got to relax and sleep a bit last night - Heaven forbid he was awake for so long - how do people like this guy?
Hope he got to relax and sleep a bit last night - Heaven forbid he was awake for so long - how do people like this guy?
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:15 am
scoob wrote:http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/time-to-sleep-like-the-dead-david-koch-tweets-in-christchurch/story-e6frfmyi-1226011030409
Hope he got to relax and sleep a bit last night - Heaven forbid he was awake for so long - how do people like this guy?
Agree totally Scoob
I have found Channel Nines' overall coverage has eben quite good and respectful to the people of New Zealand. Of course they have at times been "over the top" but recently they have gone up in the quality of their news reporting.
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by Darth Vader » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:44 pm
Brodlach wrote:scoob wrote:http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/time-to-sleep-like-the-dead-david-koch-tweets-in-christchurch/story-e6frfmyi-1226011030409
Hope he got to relax and sleep a bit last night - Heaven forbid he was awake for so long - how do people like this guy?
Agree totally Scoob
I have found Channel Nines' overall coverage has eben quite good and respectful to the people of New Zealand. Of course they have at times been "over the top" but recently they have gone up in the quality of their news reporting.
One of Carl Stefanovic's strengths is that he is noted for being able to exist on minimal sleep. Ch9 sources have admitted he is running 20-hour days.
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by OnSong » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:29 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:OnSong wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:watching "Kochie" deliver a story from the ripped up streets of downtown Christchurch really pissed me off. It was on Sky News. Why isn't the Kochmeister back in the Martin Place studio in Sydney hosting his seriously dumbed down breakfast show and give the assigment to a graduate journalist? Would create employment and still get the job done but with added credibility.
IMHO this is poor media
Kochie is poor media in general
Yeah and struggles by on $7m pa I think
Paris Hilton. Need I say more?
Right in front of me. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Barto » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:05 pm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 146945.htm
Key network anchors and reporters were en route to New Zealand within hours ... papers and websites can't get enough of the words and pictures. Maybe we should be honest about the way in which our media treats events of this type, maybe we should ask whether coverage like this in a nation once removed from the scene of devastation, can in any way be constructive. And if it's not constructive, can it be anything but voyeuristic? Are the networks, the papers, the websites milking our collective fascination and turning it inevitably to profit, for no good end?
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:13 pm
Darth Vader wrote:Brodlach wrote:scoob wrote:http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/time-to-sleep-like-the-dead-david-koch-tweets-in-christchurch/story-e6frfmyi-1226011030409
Hope he got to relax and sleep a bit last night - Heaven forbid he was awake for so long - how do people like this guy?
Agree totally Scoob
I have found Channel Nines' overall coverage has eben quite good and respectful to the people of New Zealand. Of course they have at times been "over the top" but recently they have gone up in the quality of their news reporting.
One of Carl Stefanovic's strengths is that he is noted for being able to exist on minimal sleep. Ch9 sources have admitted he is running 20-hour days.
But he has been known to get tired (and emotional
)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK2YVTl8Jko
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by redandblack » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:53 am
The Fairfax group have just run a story saying Bill Shorten is now favourite to lead Labor to the next election, having been backed in to $2.00, with Julia Gillard out to $2.50
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... 6011993983
Only one small problem.
It's Gillard at $2.00 and Shorten at $2.50
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... enuLevel/C
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... 6011993983
Only one small problem.
It's Gillard at $2.00 and Shorten at $2.50
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/eve ... enuLevel/C
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by OnSong » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:05 am
Do you think Shorten's price will, erm, shorten?
Right in front of me. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Sky Pilot » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:11 am
Has he been endorsed by the Greens yet?
People who bought this book also bought a stool and some rope. Unknown literary critic
Re: The media - good or bad?
by Darth Vader » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:55 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:Has he been endorsed by the Greens yet?
I had a pencil case at school that was smarter than the Labor gnome Shorten. I haven't seen that reported in the media. Is that good or bad?
Caution! You are now entering the no-spin zone...
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by redandblack » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:54 pm
Darth Vader wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:Has he been endorsed by the Greens yet?
I had a pencil case at school that was smarter than the Labor gnome Shorten. I haven't seen that reported in the media. Is that good or bad?
Why aren't I surprised that your pencil case was smarter than you
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Re: The media - good or bad?
by fish » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:16 pm
Centrebet has Gillard at $1.75 and Shorten at $3.25.
On the Coalition side they have Abbott at $1.45, Turnbull at $3.25 and Hockey at $5.50.
On the Coalition side they have Abbott at $1.45, Turnbull at $3.25 and Hockey at $5.50.
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