Question

[MAY-Z]

Here's another one for you constance tutter.

Why can't you be given out LBW if it pitches outside leg ?

I've never understood why?
When was this law introduced ?
If it is going on to hit the stumps the rules should be the same for the off stump should it not ?

Deep down *, I reckon the question you raised and the one I just did are somewhat related CP.

to deter negative around the wicket bowling - the you could be out lbw with the ball pitching outside leg every bowler would be pitching outside leg trying to hit the batsman on the pads as teh shots you are able to play to balls pitching outside leg are reduced so the field could be placed accordingly

the part of teh lbw law i dont agree with is if the ball hits you outside off stump but is still going to hit the stumps its not out - that is just good bowling so it should be rewarded

[smithy]

MAYZ - The ball can still pitch outside off and be given LBW providing it strikes the batsmans pads in line with the stumps.

[CoverKing]

MAYZ - The ball can still pitch outside off and be given LBW providing it strikes the batsmans pads in line with the stumps.

I think MayZ knew that mate as he said "hits you outside offstump"

[Grahaml]

The LBW rule was brought in to stop people standing in front of their stumps without a chance of being dismissed. It's supposed to be hard to get LBW decisions.

There is no provision for limitation of leg side fielders in from of the crease.

The behind leg rule doesn't include the wicketkeeper standing on the leg side, unless the umpire deems him unable to carry out his duties as wicketkeeper based on his position, then he is deemed to be a normal fielder. Although I don't recall ever hearing of a keeper at short backward square or anything. Lol.

Bouncers over head height are no balls, but also an umpire can call short pitched bowling as dangerous/unfair even if it isn't over head height. And a batsman's ability can be taken into account, as well as the line, length and regularity of the bowling.

Assuming there are no relevant by-laws for the comp you're talking about of course.

But the dismissal laws are all written so that a batsman should have every ability to safely score runs in a normal mode of batting but that also a bowler is able to dismiss a batsman by bowling in a normal mode.

[smithy]

MAYZ - The ball can still pitch outside off and be given LBW providing it strikes the batsmans pads in line with the stumps.

I think MayZ knew that mate as he said "hits you outside offstump"

I seriously need to read slower.

Sorry MAYZ

[jackpot jim]

Bouncers over head height are no balls

Thats what i understand the law to be as well so can someone tell me WHY umpires that i've watched on tv in recent years only call these as wides and NOT no balls ???

[smithy]

Bouncers over head height are no balls

Thats what i understand the law to be as well so can someone tell me WHY umpires that i've watched on tv in recent years only call these as wides and NOT no balls ???

I can remember years ago playing seniors and short balls deemed "too short" and well over the batsmans head were always called wide then so unless it's changed I'm not sure.

[daysofourlives]

Re the 5 on leg side rule, i am led to believe this is only for 20/20 cricket am i correct or is it in all forms of cricket?

[cripple]

Had some younger team mates at training last night trying to convince me that you can be stumped off of a no ball. I am certain you can't and do know that you can be stumped off of a wide. Any clarification on the matter?

[Jim05]

Had some younger team mates at training last night trying to convince me that you can be stumped off of a no ball. I am certain you can't and do know that you can be stumped off of a wide. Any clarification on the matter?

Cant be stumped off a no-ball i believe

[Jim05]

Re the 5 on leg side rule, i am led to believe this is only for 20/20 cricket am i correct or is it in all forms of cricket?

Im with you on that one days. I think the 5 on leg only applies to T20

[smithy]

Bouncers over head height are no balls

Thats what i understand the law to be as well so can someone tell me WHY umpires that i've watched on tv in recent years only call these as wides and NOT no balls ???

Law 25: Wide ball. An umpire calls a ball "wide" if, in his or her opinion, the batsman did not have a reasonable opportunity to score off the ball. A ball is called wide when the bowler bowls a bouncer that goes over the head of the batsman.

[smithy]

Had some younger team mates at training last night trying to convince me that you can be stumped off of a no ball. I am certain you can't and do know that you can be stumped off of a wide. Any clarification on the matter?

Law 24: No ball. A ball can be a no ball for several reasons: if the bowler bowls from the wrong place; or if he straightens his elbow during the delivery; or if the bowling is dangerous; or if the ball bounces more than twice or rolls along the ground before reaching the batsman; or if the fielders are standing in illegal places. A no ball adds one run to the batting team's score, in addition to any other runs which are scored off it, and the batsman can't be dismissed off a no ball except by being run out, or by handling the ball, hitting the ball twice, or obstructing the field.

[smithy]

Re the 5 on leg side rule, i am led to believe this is only for 20/20 cricket am i correct or is it in all forms of cricket?

Im with you on that one days. I think the 5 on leg only applies to T20

You may be right.
I've been having a look and the laws only mention no more than 2 behind square, nothing regarding restrictions of leg side fielders.
I do however believe that it once was a rule and I think coverking must've heard of it also.
Maybe there is someone out there that played pre-1970 could remember if there was a rule like that in the past?

[smithy]

Re the 5 on leg side rule, i am led to believe this is only for 20/20 cricket am i correct or is it in all forms of cricket?

Im with you on that one days. I think the 5 on leg only applies to T20

Nothing on test cricket again but found this.

In ODI matches, the following restriction shall apply.

• Law 41.2 Restrictions on the placement of fieldsmen

• At the instant of delivery, there may not be more than 5 fieldsmen on the leg side.

[daysofourlives]

Had some younger team mates at training last night trying to convince me that you can be stumped off of a no ball. I am certain you can't and do know that you can be stumped off of a wide. Any clarification on the matter?

You can be stumped on a wide. e.g leg side stumping in one day cricket which is relatively common
Also another one more for hard wicket comps is the wide/dead ball call. e.g it is used where maybe the ball bounces on the grass at the edge of the pitch and cuts back in to bowl the batsman

[daysofourlives]

Another question, i know the answer but i am wondering what is the most common understanding

2 batsmen set off for a run, they both make their ground and begin to return for the 2nd run, they dont cross and then one is sent back and is run out.
is it?

A) no run
B) 1 run

[mickey]

1 run, they safely completed the 1st run.

2 runs if going back for a 3rd etc

[heater31]

Had some younger team mates at training last night trying to convince me that you can be stumped off of a no ball. I am certain you can't and do know that you can be stumped off of a wide. Any clarification on the matter?

You can be stumped on a wide. e.g leg side stumping in one day cricket which is relatively common
Also another one more for hard wicket comps is the wide/dead ball call. e.g it is used where maybe the ball bounces on the grass at the edge of the pitch and cuts back in to bowl the batsman

or in the split in roll up matting, seen it both ends of the scale in my time - One ball at the head and another at the toes

[CoverKing]

Re the 5 on leg side rule, i am led to believe this is only for 20/20 cricket am i correct or is it in all forms of cricket?

Im with you on that one days. I think the 5 on leg only applies to T20

Nothing on test cricket again but found this.

In ODI matches, the following restriction shall apply.

• Law 41.2 Restrictions on the placement of fieldsmen

• At the instant of delivery, there may not be more than 5 fieldsmen on the leg side.

Cheers mate. i always thought that was in all forms of cricket, obviously not.