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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby false » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:07 am

I've been hearing from the inner sanctum that all and sundry from Torrens Valley do not want to go to Central anymore, and that includes on G Hughes.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Low Down » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:46 am

Seagull wrote:
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Jardarf wrote:I hear the HFL AGM was on tonight, anyone got any news about anything said there?

While on the topic, anyone have any idea why the AGM was Adjourned till tonight? A fixture would be out by now if the meeting was held in December like it should have been.


my guess would be because Owen has a big problems in Callington and the whole Torrens Valley Situation.




I reckon he's got bigger problems than those two. And all of these could have been avoided with some foresight and firm decisions.


Torrens Valley situation?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Justquietly » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:47 am

lebron wrote:Re Lofty, every team has picked up, Lofty will struggle. Bring it up in five months time if I'm wrong! Which I won't be!

Well, it's an opinion. Your logic stinks (ie a third placed team with a premiership-winning B grade) picking up players, even though all clubs have picked up players, to struggle this year, I don't understand. Last year Lofty were pretty competitive against your mob, so what are your boys doing differently and who have you picked up? According to your logic, unless you pick up some superstars, you'll struggle.
Re the sudden talk of Bridgey and TV, where did all that come from :shock: That's full on.
Does the footy club have ties with the cricket club? I was told last week that Bridgey cricket floated a merger with Stirling and the latter didn't want a bar of it. is it a sports & social club on the brink?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Low Down » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:56 am

Justquietly wrote:
lebron wrote:Re Lofty, every team has picked up, Lofty will struggle. Bring it up in five months time if I'm wrong! Which I won't be!

Well, it's an opinion. Your logic stinks (ie a third placed team with a premiership-winning B grade) picking up players, even though all clubs have picked up players, to struggle this year, I don't understand. Last year Lofty were pretty competitive against your mob, so what are your boys doing differently and who have you picked up? According to your logic, unless you pick up some superstars, you'll struggle.
Re the sudden talk of Bridgey and TV, where did all that come from :shock: That's full on.
Does the footy club have ties with the cricket club? I was told last week that Bridgey cricket floated a merger with Stirling and the latter didn't want a bar of it. is it a sports & social club on the brink?


Who are you referring to being on the brink? AND have onk's found a new coach yet?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby the big fella » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:07 am

Nothing re: Tv Bridgey Cally or Birdwood at last nites AGM so I hear..
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Justquietly » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:48 am

Footy Smarts wrote:
Justquietly wrote:
lebron wrote:Re Lofty, every team has picked up, Lofty will struggle. Bring it up in five months time if I'm wrong! Which I won't be!

Well, it's an opinion. Your logic stinks (ie a third placed team with a premiership-winning B grade) picking up players, even though all clubs have picked up players, to struggle this year, I don't understand. Last year Lofty were pretty competitive against your mob, so what are your boys doing differently and who have you picked up? According to your logic, unless you pick up some superstars, you'll struggle.
Re the sudden talk of Bridgey and TV, where did all that come from :shock: That's full on.
Does the footy club have ties with the cricket club? I was told last week that Bridgey cricket floated a merger with Stirling and the latter didn't want a bar of it. is it a sports & social club on the brink?


Who are you referring to being on the brink? AND have onk's found a new coach yet?

I was referring to Bridgey. However, since my post the big fela has quashed previous rumours re Bridgey's footy request.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby false » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:44 pm

the big fella wrote:Nothing re: Tv Bridgey Cally or Birdwood at last nites AGM so I hear..


What they heck did they talk about then?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Newsbreaker » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:42 pm

The informer wrote:
the big fella wrote:Nothing re: Tv Bridgey Cally or Birdwood at last nites AGM so I hear..


What they heck did they talk about then?


probably what there salaries will be or how much to increase gate revenue by :lol:
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:36 pm

Newsbreaker wrote:
The informer wrote:
the big fella wrote:Nothing re: Tv Bridgey Cally or Birdwood at last nites AGM so I hear..


What they heck did they talk about then?


probably what there salaries will be or how much to increase gate revenue by :lol:


No price hikes for 2011. Uraidla have junior problems though and may attempt to get the rules changed in the not too distant future to allow them to stay in Central Div. From what I'm told the Uraidla president was blowing his trumpet a fair bit last night... nothing new though.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Newsbreaker » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:01 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:
Newsbreaker wrote:
The informer wrote:
the big fella wrote:Nothing re: Tv Bridgey Cally or Birdwood at last nites AGM so I hear..


What they heck did they talk about then?


probably what there salaries will be or how much to increase gate revenue by :lol:


No price hikes for 2011. Uraidla have junior problems though and may attempt to get the rules changed in the not too distant future to allow them to stay in Central Div. From what I'm told the Uraidla president was blowing his trumpet a fair bit last night... nothing new though.


What sort of junior problems are we talking about here? Just generally struggling for numbers or not being able to field multiple grades? Surely they are able to throw in some incentives in to attract juniors :lol:
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:22 pm

Numbers are a huge issue at junior level for Uraidla. Don't know what type of incentives they can offer but you know things are in serious trouble if a club needs to do that.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Newsbreaker » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:46 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:Numbers are a huge issue at junior level for Uraidla. Don't know what type of incentives they can offer but you know things are in serious trouble if a club needs to do that.


what kinda of numbers are we talking about here? only a few short in each grade or only getting 5 or 6 in each grade?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Jardarf » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:59 pm

Insert 'Cabbage Patch Kids' Joke here.....

In all honesty though, Uraidla have been struggling for numbers in their junior grades in recent years. Certainly at lower levels (eg. Under 13's, 11's, 10's, etc) they often struggle to have enough numbers on the park and borrow the extra players from the teams they play just to have a game. Hope they are able to turn this around soon.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Bat Pad » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:26 am

Seagull wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:Numbers are a huge issue at junior level for Uraidla. Don't know what type of incentives they can offer but you know things are in serious trouble if a club needs to do that.



I think you'll find this is already a discussion point with the CFL. Not only in the HFL but most country leagues have 1 or 2 clubs who are in the same predicament. It may be that the playing numberin juniors becomes 14 or 15 to ease some of the burden.


That would lessen the burden on the clubs struggling but would increase it on the clubs with enough kids. It would either mean having more kids on the bench and therefore coaches finding it even harder to get kids on the field with enough game time or reducing the amount of kids in an side including bench to say 18 and then having even more kids miss out. The clubs with 30+ kids may be fine as they can have 2 sides but if you have 22 you would be out of luck in that situation. It's not a horrible idea but it does have some cons.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:31 am

I can see this being an issue if there are 4 or 5 clubs in the same situation. Does anyone know other clubs in Central Div that are in this boat?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:48 am

Afterthesiren wrote:I can see this being an issue if there are 4 or 5 clubs in the same situation. Does anyone know other clubs in Central Div that are in this boat?


Uraidla and Ironbank are the clubs that traditionally struggle with numbers in the U13, U15 and U17 ages.

In 2010 it wasn't unusual to see 6-8 of the Ironbank U13's play in the U15 game, and then another batch of the U15's play in the U17 game.

To my knowledge the other Central clubs are OK with junior numbers. The big clubs like Mt Barker, Blackwood, Lofty and Hahndorf have more kids than they need (and will sometimes field a team in country with excess kids).

I know personally that Onkas have good numbers. Even a smaller club like Bridgy has no problems in this area.

I reckon that TV will also struggle, but only time will tell.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby lebron » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:53 am

atlantis wrote:have heard that Mt Barker have been hot into the market looking for a full forward. Apparently they dont think having a chunky bloke with a bad attitude that just runs around the big blokes taking handballs to kick the easiest 100 goals in HFL history will cut it with the influx of players into div1 this year! Can you confirm this Lebron?

And how many bags of 100+ goals have you kicked Atlantis! I don't know who you are talking to or if you are just starting a rumour, but the big L Mars-back2back-ton is flying and set for a big year! Another key position recruit about to be announced too! Stay tuned!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Vaughan » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:17 am

Spearhead wrote:
Newsbreaker wrote:
Jardarf wrote:I hear the HFL AGM was on tonight, anyone got any news about anything said there?

While on the topic, anyone have any idea why the AGM was Adjourned till tonight? A fixture would be out by now if the meeting was held in December like it should have been.


my guess would be because Owen has a big problems in Callington and the whole Torrens Valley Situation.

And the Bridgy situation. Apparantly they have requested to go to Country Div., and with Birdwood never wanting to leave Central, a straight swap is being proposed. Highly doubt this will eventuate.


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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:27 pm

Gervais wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:I can see this being an issue if there are 4 or 5 clubs in the same situation. Does anyone know other clubs in Central Div that are in this boat?


Uraidla and Ironbank are the clubs that traditionally struggle with numbers in the U13, U15 and U17 ages.

In 2010 it wasn't unusual to see 6-8 of the Ironbank U13's play in the U15 game, and then another batch of the U15's play in the U17 game.

To my knowledge the other Central clubs are OK with junior numbers. The big clubs like Mt Barker, Blackwood, Lofty and Hahndorf have more kids than they need (and will sometimes field a team in country with excess kids).

I know personally that Onkas have good numbers. Even a smaller club like Bridgy has no problems in this area.

I reckon that TV will also struggle, but only time will tell.


From what I'm told Ironbanks numbers are quite healthy, so this would leave Uraidla as the only club of concern at this stage. If this is the case surely the rules cannot be changed for one club alone, although the Uraidla president seems to get whatever he wants when it comes to the HFL. Probably not ideal a premiership team gets relegated for not being able to forfill the junior component... but rules are rules even for the likes of Uraidla.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cricketlad » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:29 pm

Afterthesiren wrote:
Gervais wrote:
Afterthesiren wrote:I can see this being an issue if there are 4 or 5 clubs in the same situation. Does anyone know other clubs in Central Div that are in this boat?


Uraidla and Ironbank are the clubs that traditionally struggle with numbers in the U13, U15 and U17 ages.

In 2010 it wasn't unusual to see 6-8 of the Ironbank U13's play in the U15 game, and then another batch of the U15's play in the U17 game.

To my knowledge the other Central clubs are OK with junior numbers. The big clubs like Mt Barker, Blackwood, Lofty and Hahndorf have more kids than they need (and will sometimes field a team in country with excess kids).

I know personally that Onkas have good numbers. Even a smaller club like Bridgy has no problems in this area.

I reckon that TV will also struggle, but only time will tell.


From what I'm told Ironbanks numbers are quite healthy, so this would leave Uraidla as the only club of concern at this stage. If this is the case surely the rules cannot be changed for one club alone, although the Uraidla president seems to get whatever he wants when it comes to the HFL. Probably not ideal a premiership team gets relegated for not being able to forfill the junior component... but rules are rules even for the likes of Uraidla.



its the start of feburary, bit early to be saying teams arent going to have enough numbers. think u will find that uraidla had plenty of juniors over the last few yrs. made the under 15's finals and were in back to back grand finals in the 17's only a few years back. i have heard the u13's numbers are the worry but not the other 2 sides. but as i said it is still to early to tell.
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