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Postby mal » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:25 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Mal

I take on board your point that watson is more suited to the top of the order, my issue with that strategy is, in my opinion he is not in our best 5 opener options, he want displace ponting at #3, and there is also 4 or 5 better options at #4, so if there is no position for he at 1, 2 or 4 and if he has to bat 6 or 7, should he play?


He had success as an opener in the o/d games in the subcontinent.
It was disappointing to see HADDIN bat 3 and not WATSON.

Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.
SD you say should he play, yeah hes earned some stripes so why not.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:37 pm

Yep, Watson's not a 7, and Haddin's certainly not a 3. They need to switch them around for a start.
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Postby GWW » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:37 am

Bring back Katich :D
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Postby rod_rooster » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:12 am

mal wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Mal

I take on board your point that watson is more suited to the top of the order, my issue with that strategy is, in my opinion he is not in our best 5 opener options, he want displace ponting at #3, and there is also 4 or 5 better options at #4, so if there is no position for he at 1, 2 or 4 and if he has to bat 6 or 7, should he play?


He had success as an opener in the o/d games in the subcontinent.
It was disappointing to see HADDIN bat 3 and not WATSON.

Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.
SD you say should he play, yeah hes earned some stripes so why not.


mal, SD is right though. If Australia has all players available there is no spot for Watson in the top 6 whether he is more suited to the top order or not. There are simply too many guys better than him that will fill these top 6 places. Therfore if you say batting will be his main strength and he isn't suited to no.7 (given that there is no spot for him in the top 6) should he be playing?
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Postby am Bays » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:47 am

2nd game Aust 3/160 off 30 overs Haddin 49

Hussey and Hodge 51 & 21 respectively at a run a ball

Jaques 3 off 16 balls - but his bat on ice, he's on fire!!!
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:12 am

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Jaques 3 off 16 balls - but his bat on ice, he's on fire!!!


I'm not a big Jaques fan at this point of time,. but will be quite happy to be proven wrong.
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Postby am Bays » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:19 am

214/3 off 38 Hodge 47 and Hussey 79 both going at better than a run a ball.

Mind you 300 + is a must on Eden Pk with its short rectangular boundaries
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby am Bays » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:08 pm

Aust 4/336 White 37 of 17 balls Hodge 97*

Good score, can they defend it on the postage stamp
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Postby rod_rooster » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:30 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
mal wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Mal

I take on board your point that watson is more suited to the top of the order, my issue with that strategy is, in my opinion he is not in our best 5 opener options, he want displace ponting at #3, and there is also 4 or 5 better options at #4, so if there is no position for he at 1, 2 or 4 and if he has to bat 6 or 7, should he play?


He had success as an opener in the o/d games in the subcontinent.
It was disappointing to see HADDIN bat 3 and not WATSON.

Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.
SD you say should he play, yeah hes earned some stripes so why not.


mal, SD is right though. If Australia has all players available there is no spot for Watson in the top 6 whether he is more suited to the top order or not. There are simply too many guys better than him that will fill these top 6 places. Therfore if you say batting will be his main strength and he isn't suited to no.7 (given that there is no spot for him in the top 6) should he be playing?


Any response to this mal?
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Postby mal » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:55 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
mal wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Mal

I take on board your point that watson is more suited to the top of the order, my issue with that strategy is, in my opinion he is not in our best 5 opener options, he want displace ponting at #3, and there is also 4 or 5 better options at #4, so if there is no position for he at 1, 2 or 4 and if he has to bat 6 or 7, should he play?


He had success as an opener in the o/d games in the subcontinent.
It was disappointing to see HADDIN bat 3 and not WATSON.

Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.
SD you say should he play, yeah hes earned some stripes so why not.


mal, SD is right though. If Australia has all players available there is no spot for Watson in the top 6 whether he is more suited to the top order or not. There are simply too many guys better than him that will fill these top 6 places. Therfore if you say batting will be his main strength and he isn't suited to no.7 (given that there is no spot for him in the top 6) should he be playing?


Any response to this mal?


Not good enough to be a frontline first 6 o/d batsman
Not good enough to be a frontline bowler in o/d games
Just good enough to be an allrounder batting 7+ being the 5th bowler
Certainly not a HACK
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Postby rod_rooster » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:21 pm

mal wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
mal wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Mal

I take on board your point that watson is more suited to the top of the order, my issue with that strategy is, in my opinion he is not in our best 5 opener options, he want displace ponting at #3, and there is also 4 or 5 better options at #4, so if there is no position for he at 1, 2 or 4 and if he has to bat 6 or 7, should he play?


He had success as an opener in the o/d games in the subcontinent.
It was disappointing to see HADDIN bat 3 and not WATSON.

Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.
SD you say should he play, yeah hes earned some stripes so why not.


mal, SD is right though. If Australia has all players available there is no spot for Watson in the top 6 whether he is more suited to the top order or not. There are simply too many guys better than him that will fill these top 6 places. Therfore if you say batting will be his main strength and he isn't suited to no.7 (given that there is no spot for him in the top 6) should he be playing?


Any response to this mal?


Not good enough to be a frontline first 6 o/d batsman
Not good enough to be a frontline bowler in o/d games
Just good enough to be an allrounder batting 7+ being the 5th bowler
Certainly not a HACK


mal you said earlier:

mal wrote:Batting 7 may well be his undoing.
Batting will be his main skill in the long run.


kind of contradicts your latest comment doesn't it? I asked if you thought he should get a spot in the side given you think his main strength will be his batting yet he isn't good enough to get in the top 6 and also given you think batting seven will be his undoing.
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