Stand up Wicketkeepers

[mal]

Seems to be a lot of Keepers that stand up to meduim + meduim fast
bowlers in recent times.
I guess part of the logic is to keep the batsman from advancing out of the crease.

I dont know if I can agree with the practice, but with so many keepers
doing it then I might be wrong.

Today in the Franger Cup game VI V TA we saw VI keeper Adam CROSTHWAITE
stand up to the stumps to slow meduim bowler John MOSS.
Tasmanian tailender DOHERTY snicked a ball to CROTHSWAITE who dropped the catch.
So what some might say.
However spare a thought for MOSS as this was the FOURTH time this week that
keeper CROTHSWATE has dropped a catch of his bowling standing up at the stumps
MOSS would be absolutley

What do the experts think
TASSIE I know you are a star keeper any thoughts

[Wedgie]

I used to do it quite often but only if I felt there was a need. I'd prefer to stand back.
If I noticed a batsman was getting on top of a bowler and was standing a mile out of his crease I'd do it to put him out of his safety zone. 95% of batters would come back and bat in the crease.
Bloody dangerous though when there's a thick edge!

[mal]

WEDGIE in the long run is it a viable practice.

As a bowler you would be under pressure not to bowl wide of leg stump
You also would need to watch how high a bouncer is

[Wedgie]

WEDGIE in the long run is it a viable practice.

As a bowler you would be under pressure not to bowl wide of leg stump
You also would need to watch how high a bouncer is

I didn't have any troubles with the bouncer but yes did have a few troubles down legside, just made sure I got my legs over there to at least deflect it.
As I said I think its useful if the situation calls for it but I wouldn't do it all the time.
If the other side was 2/200 and the batter making all the runs was standing a mile outside the crease and you had a bowler who bowled a reliable line and length I say why not?

[mal]

WEDGIE would love to continue this enthralling discussion but
Ive just found out the Glenelg Football club is attending the Globe
derby trots tonight and I want to rush down there so the
players can get my autograph.

[am Bays]

I'm no star I'm a hack......

I believe standing up to the stumps seperates the good keepers from the hacks.

When I come up to the stumps it is more so to put pressure on the batsman and put doubt in their mind. I am trying to bring the LBW and or the catch from Mid on to Cover into play as the batsman has that nagging doubt in his mind that he cant risk getting to far forward and miss it.

Of course I'm also trying to back my ability to get the stumping and or catch. I can still talk you through the leg-side stumping I got against McLaren Flat 10 years ago and the two catches off a "medium pacer".

Now that I'm a hack I stand back more often but up until the last two years I would stand up as much as possible. Bowler couldn't be too fast though and needed to have reasonable control....

Best 'keeping dissmisal I've eveer seen is Jack Russell's leg-side stumping off Gladston Small in the Sydney test of the 1990-91 season.

[mal]

Thanks for the insight TASSIE and if it does pressure the
batsman then I will accept your views.
I just wonder how John MOSS would answer this question ????

[am Bays]

Mate, if I'd dropped two catches let alone four off a bowler standing up, I'd be standing back.......

Good keepers know how to play the odds.....

[redandblack]

At our level, it often comes down to how accurate the bowler is and how the pitch is playing as much as keeping the batsman in his crease.

[Dogwatcher]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was going to be about Paul Nixon doing stand-up comedy?????

[Adelaide Hawk]

Keepers standing up can turn medium pacers who are otherwise cannon fodder into lethal weapons. If a keeper is good enough to stand up, they should.

I always have a laugh when I read some of the old cricket summaries about Spofforth, the demon quick in the 1880s. Some dare to suggest he was Lillee pace. Then you read about the keeper of the day John Blackham who used to stand up to the stumps for Spofforth. This must cast serious doubt over Spofforth's real pace, or else Blackham was the greatest keeper to ever play the game, because it is difficult to believe anyone could keep up to a bowler with the bounce and pace of Lillee.

As a boy, I recall Alan Connolly, a medium fast bowler from Victoria having mediocre success for Australia. Jack Potter convinced him to cut his pace back, and Barry Jarman began standing up to him. Connolly suddenly became a very successful Test bowler. I am certain it is because having the keeper up, it anchored batsmen to the crease allowing Connolly to bowl the length he wanted.

[rod_rooster]

If Crosthwaite sp? was standing back would the ball have carried? I doubt it would have myself.

I'm with AH on this one.