200 club

[nickname]

Going through Westies' 2010 Annual Report I counted up the number of 200+ game players we've had and was surprised to see it was only 19, in the 120-year history of the club. This seems extremely low to me and I'm interested to see how it compares with other clubs, if others have those stats.

[Dirko]

Glenelg have had 24.

Peter Carey 448 games
David Marshall 354
John Seebohm 319
Graham Cornes 317
John MacFarlane 306
Nick Chigwidden 293
Chris McDermott 277
Fred Phillis 275
Neville Caldwell 265
Rex Voigt 257
Ross Gibbs 253
Stephen Copping 246
Kym Hodgeman 244
Scott Salisbury 241
Peter Marker 239
Alan Crabb 236
Tony Symonds 225
Wayne Phillis 223
Brian Colbey 210
Colin Richens 209
Ray Hunt 206
George Johnston 203
Chris Duthy 201
Alan Bartlett 201

[JK]

Given a few of those blokes lost some reasonable time to AFL/VFL there's some fair accomplishments in there

[smac]

Centrals have 18, with Paul Thomas on 171 the next closest.

Peter Vivian 308
Peter Beythien 285
Rene Van Dommele 273
Brian Haraida 268
Trevor Roe 262
Mark Prior 261
Roger Girdham 255
Scott Lee 243
Matthew Slade 223
Rick Macgowan 222
James Gowans 219
Chris Gowans 213
Sonny Morey 213
Lyle Skinner 213
Stephen Schwerdt 212
Adam Switala 209
Dean Mobbs 206
Peter Krieg 206

[Adelaide Hawk]

Norwood have 17, although James Gallagher has 199 with the power to add.

371 Garry McIntosh
307 Michael Aish
304 Keith Thomas
292 Phil Gallagher
289 Michael Taylor
283 Neil Button
267 Roger Woodcock
254 Craig Balme
246 Tom Warhurst
234 Brett James
232 Robert Oatey
214 Doug Olds
214 Bill Wedding
211 Jim Michalanney
204 Justin Scanlon
204 Jerry D'Antiochia
201 Ron Kneebone

* Danny Jenkins played 198 (plus 5 state), John Wynne 293 (plus 8 state).

Norwood's tally may seem low for a club that's been around since 1878, but for many years, anyone who played 100 games was a stalwart. Doug Olds was the first 200 gamer, and it came in 1957. Ron Kneebone was the next in 1967, Bill Wedding the year after that.

[nickname]

Well I'm glad we're not well behind the pack, but it's surprising to me that Centrals have more 200 gamers than Norwood. I don't know that it means anything, but it is curious.

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This is the list I have, which I first acquired over 10 years ago, when the SANFL website had this stuff. Recently I worked out the others through my research on game by game since 1991. This therefore I can't guarantee 100%; I see differences with both pre and post 1991 in the above lists, which I will make another post about:

Peter Vivian Central 308
Peter Beythein Central 285
Rene van Dommele Central 273
Brian Haraida Central 268
Trevor Roe Central 262
Mark Prior Central 261
Roger Girdham Central 255
Scott Lee Central 241
Rick MacGowan Central 223
Matthew Slade Central 223
James Gowans Central 220
Sony Morey Central 215
Stephen Schwerdt Central 212
Lyle Skinner Central 212
Chris Gowans Central 211
Adam Switala Central 209
Peter Krieg Central 206
Dean Mobbs Central 206

Gavin Colville Eagles 232
Justin Cicolella Eagles 230

Peter Carey Glenelg 448
David Marshall Glenelg 353
John Seebohm Glenelg 320
Graham Cornes Glenelg 317
John MacFarlane Glenelg 306
Nick Chigwidden Glenelg 291
Dennis Phillis Glenelg 280
Chris McDermott Glenelg 276
Neville Caldwell Glenelg 265
Rex Voigt Glenelg 258
Ross Gibbs Glenelg 253
Stephen Copping Glenelg 246
Kym Hodgeman Glenelg 244
Allan Crabb Glenelg 243
Scott Salisbury Glenelg 241
Peter Marker Glenelg 239
Anthony Symonds Glenelg 225
Wayne Phillis Glenelg 223
Colin Richens Glenelg 209
Brian Colbey Glenelg 206
Ray Hunt Glenelg 206
George Johnston Glenelg 203
Allan Bartlett Glenelg 202
Chris Duthy Glenelg 201

Michael Redden North 378
David Sanders North 305
Peter Bennett North 295
David Tiller North 290
Don Lindner North 284
Trevor Clisby North 279
John Riley North 250
Robert Hammond North 234
Paul Arnold North 226
Brenton Phillips North 225
Ken Farmer North 224
Barry Stringer North 217
Kim Klomp North 210
Bohdan Jaworskyj North 205
Barrie Robran North 201
Don Gilbourne North 200

Garry McIntosh Norwood 371
Michael Aish Norwood 307
Keith Thomas Norwood 300
Phillip Gallagher Norwood 292
Michael Taylor Norwood 289
Neil Button Norwood 283
Roger Woodcock Norwood 267
Craig Balme Norwood 254
Tom Warhurst Norwood 246
Brett James Norwood 238
Robert Oatey Norwood 232
Doug Olds Norwood 214
Kingsley Wedding Norwood 214
Jim Michalanney Norwood 211
Troy Clements Norwood 209
Jerry D'Antiochia Norwood 204
Justin Scanlon Norwood 204
Jack Oatey Norwood 203
Ron Kneebone Norwood 201

Russell Ebert Port 392
Darren Smith Port 343
Greg Phillips Port 338
Tim Ginever Port 314
Kym Kinnear Port 272
Stephen Williams Port 269
John Cahill Port 267
Darrell Cahill Port 263
Brian Cunningham Port 256
Geof Motley Port 250
Rohan Smith Port 250
Tim Evans Port 248
Alfred Whelan Port 248
Daryl Borlace Port 246
George Fiacchi Port 236
Paul Northeast Port 235
Jeff Potter Port 235
Trevor Sorrell Port 234
Robert Quinn Port 233
Mark Clayton Port 228
Dave Boyd Port 222
Neville Hayes Port 217
Chris Natt Port 216
Bruce Light Port 215
John Abley Port 212
Roger Delaney Port 208
Corey AhChee Port 206
Trevor Obst Port 205
Ron Elleway Port 203

Stuart Palmer South 337
David Kappler South 290
Shane Butler South 285
Phillip Brooksby South 277
Michael Bennett South 266
David Stoeckel South 266
Mark Naley South 236
John Schneebichler South 234
Len Lapthorne South 220
Ron Hateley South 216
Trent Mills South 214
Geoff Mousley South 212
Craig Cock South 206
Peter Darley South 205
Lindsay Backman South 204
Laurie Cahill South 204

Paul Bagshaw Sturt 360
Rick Davies Sturt 317
Michael Graham Sturt 282
Brenton Adcock Sturt 259
John Richter Sturt 258
Tim Weatherald Sturt 253
Colin Casey Sturt 251
Terry Short Sturt 250
Trevor Sims Sturt 250
Anthony Burgan Sturt 248
John Paynter Sturt 246
John Halbert Sturt 244
Phil Nelson Sturt 244
Greg Whittlesea Sturt 234
Rick Schoff Sturt 227
Jade Sheedy Sturt 224
Chris Thredgold Sturt 223
Brenton Howard Sturt 221
Malcolm Greenslade Sturt 215
Roger Rigney Sturt 212
Daryl Hicks Sturt 211
Ben Nelson Sturt 209
Frank Golding Sturt 207
Robbert Klomp Sturt 205
John Murphy Sturt 204
Brenton Miels Sturt 202
Andrew Geddes Sturt 201

Lindsay Head Torrens 327
Fred Bills Torrens 313
Peter Phillipou Torrens 272
Glen Pill Torrens 252
Bruce Lindsay Torrens 244
Alf Roberts Torrens 230
Lee Robson Torrens 228
Robert Enright Torrens 225
Robert Hank Torrens 224
Robert Gibson Torrens 212
Aldo Floreani Torrens 206
John Graham Torrens 204
Ian Hanna Torrens 200

Grantley Fielke West 364
Leon Grosser West 280
Robert Loveday West 263
Robbie McKinnon West 259
Dexter Kennedy West 236
Colin Brown West 227
Brian Faehse West 222
Geoff Morris West 220
Doug Thomas West 218
Colin Smith West 215
Randall Bennett West 214
Rodney Pope West 209
Peter Meuret West 206
John Taylor West 203
Colin Thompson West 201
James Wright West 201
Paul Patterson West 200

Ralph Sewer Woodville 325
Max Parker Woodville 284
Lindsay Heaven Woodville 227
Rodney Allen Woodville 200

Plus, as a post script, these players reached 200 with the current Eagles club, after playing for either Torrens or Woodville:
242 - Andrew Rogers Woodville 63 Eagles 179
308 - Andrew Payze Torrens 159 Eagles 149
244 - Scott Morphett Torrens 97 Eagles 147
268 - Peter Schwarz Woodville 183 Eagles 85
210 - Steven Geyer Torrens 149 Eagles 61
204 - Gary Haylock Woodville 150 Eagles 54
208 - Robert Lynch Woodville 156 Eagles 52
234 - Ron Fuller Woodville 196 Eagles 38

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This is the highlighted differences:

Scott Lee on 241 (plus 3 state matches takes tally to 244)
Rick Macgowan on 223 (plus 15 with North and one state match takes tally to 239)
James Gowans on 220 (plus 4 state matches takes tally to 224)
Sonny Morey on 215 (plus 4 state matches takes tally to 219)
Lyle Skinner on 213
Chris Gowans on 211 (plus 3 state matches takes tally to 214)

David Marshall on 353 (plus 3 state matches takes tally to 356)
John Seebohm on 320
Nick Chigwidden on 291 (plus 2 state matches takes tally to 293)
Fred Phillis on 280 (plus 10 state matches takes tally to 290)
Chris McDermott on 276 (plus 10 with North and 15 state matches takes tally to 301)
Rex Voigt on 258 (plus 1 state game takes tally to 259)
Allan Crabb on 243 (plus 20 state matches takes tally to 263)
Brian Colbey on 206 (plus 11 state matches takes tally to 217)
Allan Bartlett on 202

Keith Thomas on 300 (plus 5 state matches takes tally to 305)
Brett James on 238 (plus 1 state match takes tally to 239)

[Adelaide Hawk]

Keith Thomas on 300 (plus 5 state matches takes tally to 305)
Brett James on 238 (plus 1 state match takes tally to 239)

Sorry Spelly.
Brett James 234 plus 5 state games = 239.
Keith Thomas 304 games plus 5 state games = 309.

These are the official Norwood Football Club records.

Also, please explain Jack Oatey, 203 games? I've heard this before but have never been able to reconcile. I have 162 games for Norwood, 19 for Norwood-North Adelaide, 7 for SA, totalling 188. A further 5 games for South Melbourne brings his tally to 193.

[spell_check]

We have had only two players since 1991 to play 200 matches as you see above. However, only 22 players have played 200 or more matches with one club from that year:

(Night series matches not included, but no-one misses out here)
Tim Weatherald 253 (Sturt)
Brian Haraida 235 (Central)
Gavin Colville 232 (Eagles)
Justin Cicolella 230 (Eagles)
Mark Clayton 228 (Port)
Jade Sheedy 224 (Sturt)
Matthew Slade 223 (Central)
Rick MacGowan 223 (Central)
Chris Thredgold 221 (Sturt)
James Gowans 220 (Central)
Chris Gowans 211 (Central)
Trent Mills 211 (South)
Troy Clements 209 (Norwood)
Ben Nelson 209 (Sturt)
Adam Switala 209 (Central)
Corey AhChee 206 (Port)
Simon Feast 205 (Sturt)
Brant Chambers 204 (Sturt)
Nick Chigwidden 204 (Glenelg)
Brett James 203 (Norwood)
Matthew Powell 203 (Sturt)
Scott Bamford 201 (North)

[spell_check]

Keith Thomas on 300 (plus 5 state matches takes tally to 305)
Brett James on 238 (plus 1 state match takes tally to 239)

Sorry Spelly.
Brett James 234 plus 5 state games = 239.
Keith Thomas 304 games plus 5 state games = 309.

These are the official Norwood Football Club records.

Also, please explain Jack Oatey, 203 games? I've heard this before but have never been able to reconcile. I have 162 games for Norwood, 19 for Norwood-North Adelaide, 7 for SA, totalling 188. A further 5 games for South Melbourne brings his tally to 193.

Yeah, that would have been from the SANFL website in around 2000. I have put up all the 200 game club members so hopefully any mistakes can be rectified. So I can rule out Oatey then.

Do you have a year by year tally for James handy? To see where I am wrong.

This is the year by year tallies I've compiled for Keith Thomas:
1985: 24 games, 39.25 (don't know how many night matches here)
1991: 22 games, 10.13 (5 games, 3 goals in NS)
1992: 22 games, 16.12 (5 games, 9 goals in NS)

The Football Times for 1993 gives him 305, one more than you stated.

For Brett James:
1990: 18 games 15 goals (from the Football Times publication)
1991: 14 games, 3.4 (5 games, 4 goals in NS)
1992: 22 games, 1.2 (4 games in NS)
1993: 24 games, 12.9 (4 games, 3 goals in NS)
1997: 8 games, 4.4
1998: 1 game, 0.1
2000: 9 games, 2.3
2001: 22 games, 1.6
2002: 23 games, 10.10
2003: 20 games, 2.2
2004: 20 games, 5.5
2005: 20 games, 4.6
2006: 20 games, 1.5

[GWW]

Grantley Fielke West 364
Leon Grosser West 280
Robert Loveday West 263
Robbie McKinnon West 259
Dexter Kennedy West 236
Colin Brown West 227
Brian Faehse West 222
Geoff Morris West 220
Doug Thomas West 218
Colin Smith West 215
Randall Bennett West 214
Rodney Pope West 209
Peter Meuret West 206
John Taylor West 203
Colin Thompson West 201
James Wright West 201
Paul Patterson West 200

I think that the interesting thing about West is that they've had a few blokes start there, play a reasonable amount of games for them, then move to another club or club(s), and play a large amount of games in total.

3 I can think of are Neil Kerley, Clayton Lamb and Ken Eustice.

[Magpiespower]

Also, please explain Jack Oatey, 203 games? I've heard this before but have never been able to reconcile. I have 162 games for Norwood, 19 for Norwood-North Adelaide, 7 for SA, totalling 188. A further 5 games for South Melbourne brings his tally to 193.

Dunno the story with Jack Oatey but...

Pretty sure Bob Quinn only played about 179 actual games for Port.

About 54 games were credited to him because of WWII service.

One assumes the credit covers the games he missed.

Most of 1940, all of 1941 and the Port-Torrens years...

[nickname]

Spelly two that you don't have for West, according to the Annual Report figures which I assume Mark Beswick put together, are Peter Winter (175 home and away, 27 Cup games = 202) and Jeff Bray (190 home and away, 14 Cup = 204).

[robranisgod]

Spelly two that you don't have for West, according to the Annual Report figures which I assume Mark Beswick put together, are Peter Winter (175 home and away, 27 Cup games = 202) and Jeff Bray (190 home and away, 14 Cup = 204).

They are both 200 club members of the SANFL, so surely they should be recognised as 200 game players for West Adelaide.

One year North published their two hundred game players and omitted Barrie Robran and Don Gilbourne. There was uproar at the AGM and they have gone back to recording the 200 game players in accordance with the league rules that included various officially sanctioned competitions. Barrie Robran, in prticular, retired once he had achieved his 200 games. To say 30 years later that he didn't play 200 games for the club is churlish in the extreme.

[robranisgod]

Spelly's list is just about spot on for North. You just have to add Scott Bamford with 201 games.

So North only have 17 200 gamers, but like the other clubs most of them have been since the 1960s. In fact Don Gilbourne in 1962 was the second only after Ken Farmer.