GSFL Movements

[scottroo]

6 foot 2 forward recruited from Colonel Light Gardens

[The Low Down]

hahahaha makes me laugh that people think kenny is getting 1000 plus a game, dont care what any one believes its not true . moving on. tom blum has left the bay and is playing for north clare

Gastev you really have no idea what is going on at your 'supposed' own club.
MeGregor was on a 1k package at kilburn so you think he's going to drive and hour and a half down the road on his weekends off work for less than that? You're a cadet aand the blum news happened weeks ago along with prest and soon to be two more locals.
By the way, nick williams has also pulled the pin on playing at the bay.
When the bays learn to develop and respect their local talent they will improve, until then they will make up the numbers.

cadet maybe , not a has been? anyway i have heard about a couple others leaving only because the money is to good to refuse elsewhere. wheres prest going ? i think the bays can cover him anyway

No idea what you're on about now but anyway Prest signed with PAC according to their coach.
Also, if by some form of magic your mob make the five and glenelg do as well... then what does mcgregor do...? I think that'd be pretty straight forward...

[bays10]

hahahaha makes me laugh that people think kenny is getting 1000 plus a game, dont care what any one believes its not true . moving on. tom blum has left the bay and is playing for north clare

Gastev you really have no idea what is going on at your 'supposed' own club.
MeGregor was on a 1k package at kilburn so you think he's going to drive and hour and a half down the road on his weekends off work for less than that? You're a cadet aand the blum news happened weeks ago along with prest and soon to be two more locals.
By the way, nick williams has also pulled the pin on playing at the bay.
When the bays learn to develop and respect their local talent they will improve, until then they will make up the numbers.

cadet maybe , not a has been? anyway i have heard about a couple others leaving only because the money is to good to refuse elsewhere. wheres prest going ? i think the bays can cover him anyway

No idea what you're on about now but anyway Prest signed with PAC according to their coach.
Also, if by some form of magic your mob make the five and glenelg do as well... then what does mcgregor do...? I think that'd be pretty straight forward...

footysmart, A player like McGregor although we would love to have him for all the games, we dont expect to have him. I cannot understand why you keep harping on about him. He would be the most talked about topic on here. McGregor although recurited for his experience and no doubt most clubs would want an ex afl player was not only recruited for this year but for the future of the club. If you were really footy smart, you would probably relise that McGregor could become a great recruiting tool for the club for years to come given his contacts among SANFL and AFL clubs. Not only this but the players around him for the games he will play will benifet greatly.

[JOHNYGASTEV]

well played bays10 i like your stuff

[neverwas neverwillbe]

As I stated earlier, clubs need to attract some high profile players/names to hopefully entise others to follow to make the comp better. I think it is a bit of jealousy that the Bays have attracted one. Even if he is getting $1000 plus a game (for 8-12 games for the year) it would probably be less in total than what other clubs are shelling out.

[Micky Conlan]

Field of dreams, great info and break down. Would love to see the same for Dale Ellis on his return from the six games he played. from my mail he still kicked 50 or something but almost nothing against quality sides. If true then this mixed with his suspect shoulder makes picking him uo a waste of time. Lucky for TV that they'll have no problems calling a spade a spade if he doesnt deliver.

I saw most VH games and your mail is correct except he played 11 games.

Breakdown the stats:

Kicked 50 in 11 games: 4.55 goals per game.
Against the bottom 5:
Goolwa 8
Compass 5
Bays 9,7
Mclaren 7
Pongy 3

39 goals at 6.5 per game

Against the top 5:
Yank 4 (final)
Willunga 4
Strath 1,0 (came off injured in the final against Strath at Will in the bog)
Creek 2

11 goals at 2.2 per game.

So yes his performance against the top sides wasnt good, but he was extremely hampered for a lot of the year especially late. The 4 he kicked against yank in the finals were great - his shoulder was stuffed and he couldnt lift his arm at all, but he took some good chest marks and converted from a long way out.

Field of Dreams when you get a spare 4 hours can you break down Hamsy record from last year.

[The Low Down]

footysmart, A player like McGregor although we would love to have him for all the games, we dont expect to have him. I cannot understand why you keep harping on about him. He would be the most talked about topic on here. McGregor although recurited for his experience and no doubt most clubs would want an ex afl player was not only recruited for this year but for the future of the club. If you were really footy smart, you would probably relise that McGregor could become a great recruiting tool for the club for years to come given his contacts among SANFL and AFL clubs. Not only this but the players around him for the games he will play will benifet greatly.[/quote]


Hardly call it harping on in my defence 'bays 10..
I'll stick to my profile name for now as I seem to remember a particular forward by the name of Tony Modra lobbing up at your club and from my mail is still in the area. Call me a silly girl but this clearly hasn't worked to attract/retain footballers. However, you're probably right... Ken McGregor would be a much more popular signing among modern day footballers....
I think you'll find that Glenelg already has a VERY strong affiliation with another club (considering you're not even in their catchment area) with which it plants it's disgards. But again you're probably right... when he coaches against other SANFL clubs he'll be putting in the good word and collecting numbers for encounter. As for AFL contacts, well wouldn't that just mean you'd be shelving out even more money?
Bottom line, look after and develop your locals or you see them disappearing.

No more harping on from me, so best we all forget this little post of mine and move on.

[field of dreams]

Field of Dreams when you get a spare 4 hours can you break down Hamsy record from last year.

Hams:

Kicked 100 in 21 games: 4.76 goals per game.

Against the bottom 5:
Goolwa 5,6
Compass 6,2
Bays 4,11
Mclaren 4,4
Pongy 5,6

59 goals at 5.9 per game

Against the top 5:
Yank 7,3,3
Victor 2,3
Strath 7,1,3
Creek 4,5,3

41 goals at 3.73 per game.

4 hrs? try 5 mins the numbers are all still available:::
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info. ... 3-10255818

[Speccy02]

I wonder what the Great Southerner's think of the SFL's idea to grant sides considerable more points for season 2011, granted 2 of the clubs Hackham and Aldinga need the help and i personally have no grievance with that, however Morphy Parks and Marion who have participated in A grade finals atleast once in the last 3 years have been granted a large number of "bonus" points for reasons such as "losing a significant number of senior footballers".

Perhaps this is a way of bringing Goolwa/E.Bay/McLaren and the like back into the mix a bit sooner? As a point of interest MV will have cleared in excess of 20 players by the time the first ball is bounced in season 2011, perhaps they should plead their case aswell.

I'm certain your league heads are stronger and have more sense than the SFL's? I would also think they would be laughing at the SFL's decision?

[LuvsFooty]

I wonder what the Great Southerner's think of the SFL's idea to grant sides considerable more points for season 2011, granted 2 of the clubs Hackham and Aldinga need the help and i personally have no grievance with that, however Morphy Parks and Marion who have participated in A grade finals atleast once in the last 3 years have been granted a large number of "bonus" points for reasons such as "losing a significant number of senior footballers".

Perhaps this is a way of bringing Goolwa/E.Bay/McLaren and the like back into the mix a bit sooner? As a point of interest MV will have cleared in excess of 20 players by the time the first ball is bounced in season 2011, perhaps they should plead their case aswell.

I'm certain your league heads are stronger and have more sense than the SFL's? I would also think they would be laughing at the SFL's decision?

Coming from one of the clubs that is mentioned above as "getting in to the mix sooner" I would suggest leaving it how it is currently. Its not easy but its challenging and we have found this year that if your club has a solid base, is honest with the position that your club is in and the expectations you have and you structure recruiting early and work hard, bringing players to the club is doable. Early signings also helps maintain the current squad and gives incentives for ex players to return. I dont think clubs expect arm chair rides and if running clubs, recruiting, sponsorship, playing and football in general was easy we would all be doing it. The clubs mentioned above, all have the scope to be successful on field without additional assistance because they have strong histories, the population to draw from and some talented locals (Goolwa is I think the only club to provide an AFL player, Bays and McLarens have large numbers in the south system). Mt Compass and Yankalilla are 2 current examples of clubs that have been down that have trurned things and I would say that Victor is a prime example. I believe they didnt play finals in the 2000's and will probably this year start close to favouritres for the flag. As a bottom club (at the moment) leave it be

[damian]

I wonder what the Great Southerner's think of the SFL's idea to grant sides considerable more points for season 2011, granted 2 of the clubs Hackham and Aldinga need the help and i personally have no grievance with that, however Morphy Parks and Marion who have participated in A grade finals atleast once in the last 3 years have been granted a large number of "bonus" points for reasons such as "losing a significant number of senior footballers".

Perhaps this is a way of bringing Goolwa/E.Bay/McLaren and the like back into the mix a bit sooner? As a point of interest MV will have cleared in excess of 20 players by the time the first ball is bounced in season 2011, perhaps they should plead their case aswell.

I'm certain your league heads are stronger and have more sense than the SFL's? I would also think they would be laughing at the SFL's decision?

Coming from one of the clubs that is mentioned above as "getting in to the mix sooner" I would suggest leaving it how it is currently. Its not easy but its challenging and we have found this year that if your club has a solid base, is honest with the position that your club is in and the expectations you have and you structure recruiting early and work hard, bringing players to the club is doable. Early signings also helps maintain the current squad and gives incentives for ex players to return. I dont think clubs expect arm chair rides and if running clubs, recruiting, sponsorship, playing and football in general was easy we would all be doing it. The clubs mentioned above, all have the scope to be successful on field without additional assistance because they have strong histories, the population to draw from and some talented locals (Goolwa is I think the only club to provide an AFL player, Bays and McLarens have large numbers in the south system). Mt Compass and Yankalilla are 2 current examples of clubs that have been down that have trurned things and I would say that Victor is a prime example. I believe they didnt play finals in the 2000's and will probably this year start close to favouritres for the flag. As a bottom club (at the moment) leave it be

[Speccy02]

I wonder what the Great Southerner's think of the SFL's idea to grant sides considerable more points for season 2011, granted 2 of the clubs Hackham and Aldinga need the help and i personally have no grievance with that, however Morphy Parks and Marion who have participated in A grade finals atleast once in the last 3 years have been granted a large number of "bonus" points for reasons such as "losing a significant number of senior footballers".

Perhaps this is a way of bringing Goolwa/E.Bay/McLaren and the like back into the mix a bit sooner? As a point of interest MV will have cleared in excess of 20 players by the time the first ball is bounced in season 2011, perhaps they should plead their case aswell.

I'm certain your league heads are stronger and have more sense than the SFL's? I would also think they would be laughing at the SFL's decision?

Coming from one of the clubs that is mentioned above as "getting in to the mix sooner" I would suggest leaving it how it is currently. Its not easy but its challenging and we have found this year that if your club has a solid base, is honest with the position that your club is in and the expectations you have and you structure recruiting early and work hard, bringing players to the club is doable. Early signings also helps maintain the current squad and gives incentives for ex players to return. I dont think clubs expect arm chair rides and if running clubs, recruiting, sponsorship, playing and football in general was easy we would all be doing it. The clubs mentioned above, all have the scope to be successful on field without additional assistance because they have strong histories, the population to draw from and some talented locals (Goolwa is I think the only club to provide an AFL player, Bays and McLarens have large numbers in the south system). Mt Compass and Yankalilla are 2 current examples of clubs that have been down that have trurned things and I would say that Victor is a prime example. I believe they didnt play finals in the 2000's and will probably this year start close to favouritres for the flag. As a bottom club (at the moment) leave it be

My point exactly, why make rules for 1 and not another, makes a mockery of the points system! In all leagues and at all clubs the wheel turns and there will be a time when the bottom clubs of the GSFL will have swapped with the higher teams, makes all those bad times and hard work more memorable once you do have success, so the short term fix for more points is an absolute joke!

[LuvsFooty]

Having said that, extra points are welcomed with open arms

[The Low Down]

I wonder what the Great Southerner's think of the SFL's idea to grant sides considerable more points for season 2011, granted 2 of the clubs Hackham and Aldinga need the help and i personally have no grievance with that, however Morphy Parks and Marion who have participated in A grade finals atleast once in the last 3 years have been granted a large number of "bonus" points for reasons such as "losing a significant number of senior footballers".

Perhaps this is a way of bringing Goolwa/E.Bay/McLaren and the like back into the mix a bit sooner? As a point of interest MV will have cleared in excess of 20 players by the time the first ball is bounced in season 2011, perhaps they should plead their case aswell.

I'm certain your league heads are stronger and have more sense than the SFL's? I would also think they would be laughing at the SFL's decision?

Coming from one of the clubs that is mentioned above as "getting in to the mix sooner" I would suggest leaving it how it is currently. Its not easy but its challenging and we have found this year that if your club has a solid base, is honest with the position that your club is in and the expectations you have and you structure recruiting early and work hard, bringing players to the club is doable. Early signings also helps maintain the current squad and gives incentives for ex players to return. I dont think clubs expect arm chair rides and if running clubs, recruiting, sponsorship, playing and football in general was easy we would all be doing it. The clubs mentioned above, all have the scope to be successful on field without additional assistance because they have strong histories, the population to draw from and some talented locals (Goolwa is I think the only club to provide an AFL player, Bays and McLarens have large numbers in the south system). Mt Compass and Yankalilla are 2 current examples of clubs that have been down that have trurned things and I would say that Victor is a prime example. I believe they didnt play finals in the 2000's and will probably this year start close to favouritres for the flag. As a bottom club (at the moment) leave it be

My point exactly, why make rules for 1 and not another, makes a mockery of the points system! In all leagues and at all clubs the wheel turns and there will be a time when the bottom clubs of the GSFL will have swapped with the higher teams, makes all those bad times and hard work more memorable once you do have success, so the short term fix for more points is an absolute joke!

Great discussion and I totally agree with LF - smart recruitment and infrastructure and player development makes clubs what they are.
I think it's fair to say that the SFL has the entire collective football community baffled at its choice to NOT split into a two division relegation system. There are 4 maybe 5 clubs in the SFL that are very strong however the rest are arguably average, no offence but I think we'd almost all agree that there's a big gap between the top five and then the next 3 to 4 clubs then light years from the rest. This is what is killing the SFL slowly and I can't believe that clubs are too proud to be relegated to div 2 should it happen. I'd rather win division two and earn a spot in div one than get 200 point thumpings every second week. AND with the youth of today having a here and now, I want, I want attitude they dont want to play for weaker clubs

[neverwas neverwillbe]

The SFL have bitten off more than they can chew. Too many teams (for 1 div) and still wanting more to join. Even when there were two divs; div 1 had 12 teams and div 2 had 7. This is why teams left this unbalanced situation. As for allocating extra points to the lower clubs, does anyone think that will actually work? Unfortunately 'rebuilding' doesn't happen overnight.

[JOHNYGASTEV]

E bay on the verge of naming another big signing

[neverwas neverwillbe]

E bay on the verge of naming another big signing

Care to elaborate or any hints? Or too soon yet?

[The Low Down]

E bay on the verge of naming another big signing

Care to elaborate or any hints? Or too soon yet?

John Jarred.

[JOHNYGASTEV]

E bay on the verge of naming another big signing

Care to elaborate or any hints? Or too soon yet?

John Jarred.

footy smarts yeh seem to know a bit about the e bay club, but your not right with this one . i wonder who is feeding you all your information?

[LuvsFooty]

It will all become clear over the next few days, clearances can be lodged from tomorrow