
Interesting know what songs you all would have liked to see in the top ten (for those that haven't posted it already)?
by Q. » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:09 am
by Baron Greenback » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:16 am
by Q. » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:22 am
by Gingernuts » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:44 am
by Baron Greenback » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:24 am
Quichey wrote:Typo there BG, that 2003 entry should be in the top list
by OnSong » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:35 am
Baron Greenback wrote:Quichey wrote:Typo there BG, that 2003 entry should be in the top list
Haha. Na I'm a fan. At least it's a rock song.
by Q. » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:58 pm
OnSong wrote:Baron Greenback wrote:Quichey wrote:Typo there BG, that 2003 entry should be in the top list
Haha. Na I'm a fan. At least it's a rock song.
I too rate Jet.
Saw em live with Powderfinger and they were both great.
Not bands to sing songs about being hungover on a bus, hey Q-man? Lol. Classic vid. Says it all.
by Booney » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:04 pm
by Dogwatcher » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:12 pm
zipzap wrote:Bah, Angus and Julia Stone indeed. I remember thinking the same thing when Powderfinger and Bernard Fanning kept topping the Hottest 100 - bland, safe, corporate indie.
Triple j has been pooh for years. In a former life in Brissy when I had vague journalistic ambitions (you're living the dream DW!) I did a story on the selling out of JJJ. This was not long after the mass sackings of anyone interesting from the early days of the national network and for some reason they had Crowded House's Woodface on heavy rotation, like some sick joke from Flight of the Conchords.
Anyway, I interviewed Ed Breslin then the head of B105 (equivalent of SAFM) about his perception of JJJs growing commmercialism from the point of view of a commercial network. He said he thought it was fantastic. In a year or so later he was appointed station manager of JJJ and all hope was lost.
EDIT: I had this flashback that I had told that story before and after a quick check found that I had - in a thread where we were all bagging the hell out of the 2005 Hottest 100. Good to see nothing changes!
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:24 pm
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:29 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:zipzap wrote:Bah, Angus and Julia Stone indeed. I remember thinking the same thing when Powderfinger and Bernard Fanning kept topping the Hottest 100 - bland, safe, corporate indie.
Triple j has been pooh for years. In a former life in Brissy when I had vague journalistic ambitions (you're living the dream DW!) I did a story on the selling out of JJJ. This was not long after the mass sackings of anyone interesting from the early days of the national network and for some reason they had Crowded House's Woodface on heavy rotation, like some sick joke from Flight of the Conchords.
Anyway, I interviewed Ed Breslin then the head of B105 (equivalent of SAFM) about his perception of JJJs growing commmercialism from the point of view of a commercial network. He said he thought it was fantastic. In a year or so later he was appointed station manager of JJJ and all hope was lost.
EDIT: I had this flashback that I had told that story before and after a quick check found that I had - in a thread where we were all bagging the hell out of the 2005 Hottest 100. Good to see nothing changes!
Hmmmmm....this isn't quite the dream I had in mind. But, at least you think it is
As for JJJ's commercialisation. I agree with what you're writing. For me, JJJ changed with Nirvana. Once Nirvana went commercial and the impact of that was realised, JJJ started to see itself as a transit lounge for music on its way into the charts. That's the way it's stayed.
I'm a big Public Enemy fan, and I'll never forget the time I was at someone else's house with SAFM on and they played this hot, new track by PE. It was Bring Tha Noise featuring Anthrax (an all time PE classic) and it was over a year old!
However, of late I've noticed that a lot of the songs that top the Hottest 100 are the sort of tunes being played on local ABC because it is safe, new music. I'm wondering if the play list is partially being worked to get the kids into the ABC young and then for them to transfer across to ABC Adults once they grow out of 'youth' music.
by Pidge » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:47 pm
Gingernuts wrote:I don't care what anyone says, JJJ still shits all over any commercial station.
Commercial radio is just a steady stream of teenage chicks singing about how slutty they are, and americans rapping about how awesome their drugs and hoes are. Then a **** load of commercials in between.
JJJ might not be the 'radio god' that it used to be, but it beats the hell out of that crap any day of the week.
They still know how to unearth serious Australian talent in all genre's too, and ultimately that is what they're all about.
As for the 100, I think the very nature of the voting system means that the song that ultimately wins is the one that has wide appeal across all musical tastes.
by scoob » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:07 pm
by zipzap » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:41 pm
Gingernuts wrote:I don't care what anyone says, JJJ still shits all over any commercial station.
by zipzap » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:46 pm
Leaping Lindner wrote:DW and Zip Zap have you ever guys ever read a book called The Sell in? If you haven't get one as soon as you can. It covers this era of australian music really well, and what went horribly...horribly wrong.(JJJ gets a fair share of the blame too).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sell-In
by brod » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:06 pm
by Pidge » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:13 am
zipzap wrote:Gingernuts wrote:I don't care what anyone says, JJJ still shits all over any commercial station.
Of course you're completely right. But under the ABC Charter it's meant to be providing an alternative service to that provided by the commercials (and not chasing ratings), and for whatever reason, over recent years it has been getting closer and closer...
by Leaping Lindner » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:01 am
Pidge wrote:zipzap wrote:Gingernuts wrote:I don't care what anyone says, JJJ still shits all over any commercial station.
Of course you're completely right. But under the ABC Charter it's meant to be providing an alternative service to that provided by the commercials (and not chasing ratings), and for whatever reason, over recent years it has been getting closer and closer...
JJJ is still the first place that these songs get played. Once they start to become popular the commercial stations get a hold of them and flog these songs.
by Leaping Lindner » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:02 am
zipzap wrote:Leaping Lindner wrote:DW and Zip Zap have you ever guys ever read a book called The Sell in? If you haven't get one as soon as you can. It covers this era of australian music really well, and what went horribly...horribly wrong.(JJJ gets a fair share of the blame too).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sell-In
Yep, a great book about 90s Oz music as the 'alternative' became mainstream. Forget Nirvana DW, it's all bloody Ratcat's fault!![]()
With the Hummingbirds apparently playing a blinder yesterday at the Sydney BDO it does make you wonder what could have been...
by Pidge » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:41 am
Leaping Lindner wrote:Pidge wrote:zipzap wrote:Gingernuts wrote:I don't care what anyone says, JJJ still shits all over any commercial station.
Of course you're completely right. But under the ABC Charter it's meant to be providing an alternative service to that provided by the commercials (and not chasing ratings), and for whatever reason, over recent years it has been getting closer and closer...
JJJ is still the first place that these songs get played. Once they start to become popular the commercial stations get a hold of them and flog these songs.
Not the first place. Usually the fifth. AFTER RRR,PBS,ZZZ, and 3d.
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