5th Ashes test at the SCG - 3rd to 7th Jan 2011

[Jim05]

Well done to Siddle and Smith, put value on their wickets, pity a few others didnt, I know it just prolongs the agony but why cant our top order show some guts and fight like those two did for the last 45 to 50 mins

Love siddles attitude when batting,bowling or fielding. He gives everything and leaves nothing in the tank. Heart of a lion

[Dogmatic]

Lets be honest we have no spinners that would even threaten the batsman from Holland, I think the selectors made the mistake in not playing Hauritz, perhaps one day the real story may get out why he was dropped

Supposedly it was because he had a falling out with Ponting.

Wouldn't Punter sign the gear he was selling?

[locky801]

Lets be honest we have no spinners that would even threaten the batsman from Holland, I think the selectors made the mistake in not playing Hauritz, perhaps one day the real story may get out why he was dropped

Supposedly it was because he had a falling out with Ponting.

Wouldn't Punter sign the gear he was selling?

[Dutchy]

England rightly so have requested the extra overs tonight to try and finish the match, lets hope they get it done and dusted quickly

Rightly? Has to be 8 down to request extra time...

[locky801]

England rightly so have requested the extra overs tonight to try and finish the match, lets hope they get it done and dusted quickly

Rightly? Has to be 8 down to request extra time...

No believe that has changed and the captain of the side that maybe going to win now has the right to ask for an extension, Strauss did that today so we got 8 extra overs or 30 mins extra play evidently

[Mad Mat]

Congrats to the England/South African XI.

Heads should roll from Hilditch down.

[pmackk]

Another good effort by the aussie team. NOT

[Q.]

It's a quick fall from the top. The climb back up is going to be slow and painful.

[MAY-Z]

Australian selectors have blundered AGAIN this summer
It is always a risk playing 2 spinners
Why is it a risk?
To pick 2 spinners you rely too much on bowling last in the match .....


AU 280
EG 7/584
PRIOR 111*[120]
BRESNAN 35 *[97]
This is disgustingly painful too watch

2 decisions have cost AU in this innings
COOK 46 -189 after that Beer no ball
BELL 67-115 after the cheat rorted the reFERAL system
Cost AU 191 runs
BUT you have to create opportuities to cover whatever happens in a game of cricket

Cheat how...? I hope you're not talking about Bell...? How many Aussies walk...?

2 page spread in todays press about it
Crowd BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOED Bell
Radio media have commeneted about Bell

BELL rorted the rules
Good luck to him, he gotta away with it
Ive been advocating for sometime now that a batter will eventually be let off the hook through a frivoulous reFERAL

Here is an extract from the media
BELL WAS 67 WHEN HE NICKED A WATSON DELIVERY TO KEEPER BRAD HADDIN
IT WAS THE LOUDEST NOISE BY A bell SINCE BIG BEN STRUCK MIDNIGHT ON NEW YEARS EVE. HE BELTED IT

In my eyes BELL cheated and RORTED the system

yep a 2 page spread in the paper - what a load of sh!te - i dont remember a 2 page spread when brad haddin took the bails off against nzl (broom maybe) at perth a couple of years ago and told the batsman he was bowled.

the problem isnt with bell its with the icc dont let all available info be used to make the decision. based on the information available to be used not out was the correct decision but as soon as snicko was used it was obvious what the noise was. overall the udrs has done well this series with this being the only incorrect decison that has occurred and there have been plenty of decisions correct

as has been said there are millions of times that the australians have had the rub of the green with umpiring decisons.

and as for believing what is written in the paper - the paper would have you believe cook was out on 64 in adelaide when replays clearly showed the ball flicked his shoulder and this was correctly overturned - to quote teh paper - "tickling a legside bouncer from peter siddle to the keeper matt prior" 1) he didnt tickle it and 2) matt prior doesnt play for australia - so if you are using the advertiser as justification for anything you say is a bad idea

as cook said in the press conference teh decision was very similar to the michael clarke one in teh first innings at brisbane

[Bulls forever]

Mal, you have to get over your frustration with this review s..t, it seems to be doing your head in. Granted it should be all encompassing or not at all and the ICC should show some balls and make everyone use it. Sure it cost us dearly this series, but 3 - 1 probably fair result. Bit tough on the Bell, it seems you are advocating the Gilchrist way and if you hit it, you walk, won't work. Let the umps make the decisions, embrace technology, but all of it.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Lets be honest we have no spinners that would even threaten the batsman from Holland, I think the selectors made the mistake in not playing Hauritz, perhaps one day the real story may get out why he was dropped

Supposedly it was because he had a falling out with Ponting.

I heard that on ABC radio as well, they were saying Ponting wanted him to bowl wide of the crease like Harbijan but Hauritz refused and they said Ponting then "lost faith" in him.

[smithy]

Ben Hilfenhaus delivered what has been reported as one of the worst balls ever in test cricket today.
Anyone managed to find a video of it yet ?

[Jase]

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Ben Hilfenhaus delivered what has been reported as one of the worst balls ever in test cricket today.
Anyone managed to find a video of it yet ?

Haven't got a video of it but just saw it on the replay on foxsports, I thought Little Johnny Howards effort was bad, he has an excuse, he's Mr. Magoo in disguise. The Hilf is supposed to be a professional cricketer.

Classic...

[cennals05]

Look on the bright side, England (although it could be argued that they've actually gone to South Africa) have the better cricket side, but we have the better weather.

In a months time we'll all have forgotten about the cricket but England will still have shite weather.

[mal]

Mal, you have to get over your frustration with this review s..t, it seems to be doing your head in. Granted it should be all encompassing or not at all and the ICC should show some balls and make everyone use it. Sure it cost us dearly this series, but 3 - 1 probably fair result. Bit tough on the Bell, it seems you are advocating the Gilchrist way and if you hit it, you walk, won't work. Let the umps make the decisions, embrace technology, but all of it.

Agree, will temper venting my frustrations
Just gunna wear boxing gloves, that way I wont damage my hands when I punch walls

LAST WORD
BELLGATE was not a matter of walking
If the ump dosent give you out, you have that right not to walk
But with BELLGATE he was given out, hence get on ya bike sonny

What happened after that is ....

[smithy]

Mal, you have to get over your frustration with this review s..t, it seems to be doing your head in. Granted it should be all encompassing or not at all and the ICC should show some balls and make everyone use it. Sure it cost us dearly this series, but 3 - 1 probably fair result. Bit tough on the Bell, it seems you are advocating the Gilchrist way and if you hit it, you walk, won't work. Let the umps make the decisions, embrace technology, but all of it.

Agree, will temper venting my frustrations
Just gunna wear boxing gloves, that way I wont damage my hands when I punch walls

LAST WORD
BELLGATE was not a matter of walking
If the ump dosent give you out, you have that right not to walk
But with BELLGATE he was given out, hence get on ya bike sonny

What happened after that is ....

At the end of the day MAL, the correct decision was made.
Surely if we didn't use this technology then people would be screaming out for us to use it.
It needs to be taken out of the players hands.
Let the 3 umpires sort it out between themselves.

[mal]

SMITHY
Adelaide Hawk has advocated not to let the players control things
He also says let the Umps sort it out
I think both of youse r right

[smithy]

And as for your no ball referral grief.
If the 3rd umpire can view every ball on video without any stoppage of play and communicate to the scorers whether to add or deduct runs regarding incorrect no ball calls, that might work.

Just get it out of the players hands.
I'm getting a little sick of these meetings that half the team have if they think it's worth a referral or not.

[Grahaml]

Mal, you have to get over your frustration with this review s..t, it seems to be doing your head in. Granted it should be all encompassing or not at all and the ICC should show some balls and make everyone use it. Sure it cost us dearly this series, but 3 - 1 probably fair result. Bit tough on the Bell, it seems you are advocating the Gilchrist way and if you hit it, you walk, won't work. Let the umps make the decisions, embrace technology, but all of it.

Agree, will temper venting my frustrations
Just gunna wear boxing gloves, that way I wont damage my hands when I punch walls

LAST WORD
BELLGATE was not a matter of walking
If the ump dosent give you out, you have that right not to walk
But with BELLGATE he was given out, hence get on ya bike sonny

What happened after that is ....

At the end of the day MAL, the correct decision was made.
Surely if we didn't use this technology then people would be screaming out for us to use it.
It needs to be taken out of the players hands.
Let the 3 umpires sort it out between themselves.

WHAT? Correct decision made? He hit the ball, was given not out, referred eventually on a faint hope something might help him and when the replays proved inconclusive the umpire decided retrospectively there was doubt, yet the audio showed there was a noise somewhere. Given hotspot didn't show ANY touch ANYWHERE it must be deemed it was unable to show accurately what happened. No gap between bat and ball, nothing else close enough to either the bat or ball when you look at it could have made that noise. On the balance even Tony Greig thinks he hit it. And you think it should be taken out of the players hands? No player input he's out. Evidence show's he's almost certainly hit it, at the least it's hit something but we can't tell what. I'm not worried that the decision might have cost us a match, or a series, because I can't see how anything was going to save Australia this series as it turned out, but that's not the point.

[mal]

Lads, Sachin just came in to bat in South Africa, a place where there are no referrals in the current series
How on earth can we have them here and not there is another issue