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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Jim05 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:24 am

am Bays wrote:Well done to the boys on the Hill tonight, first three wickets all coincided with them getting a Mexican wave going. Did O'Keefe turn any tonight all I saw was batsmen playing for the turn and getting bowled/missing straight ones.

'Ritz the best slow bowler I saw tonight

U have to be kidding. Okeefe destroyed the redbacks top order with good variety.
Hauritz bowled rubbish as usual and apart fron pollard picked up some cheap scalps at the end. Gap in class between okeefe and hauritz isnt funny.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:30 am

Jim05 wrote:
am Bays wrote:Well done to the boys on the Hill tonight, first three wickets all coincided with them getting a Mexican wave going. Did O'Keefe turn any tonight all I saw was batsmen playing for the turn and getting bowled/missing straight ones.

'Ritz the best slow bowler I saw tonight

U have to be kidding. Okeefe destroyed the redbacks top order with good variety.
Hauritz bowled rubbish as usual and apart fron pollard picked up some cheap scalps at the end. Gap in class between okeefe and hauritz isnt funny.


Shut up you clown. All you're ever doing is talking up a guy like O'Keefe and rubbishing Hauritz all the time which proves you know jack s__t about cricket. Go talk to people that actually know something about spin bowling like Swann, Warne, Murali, Vettori etc and ask them what they think of Hauritz. Hauritz has done nothing but made the selectors look pretty ordinary since he's gone back to state cricket.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Jim05 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:56 am

Gozu wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
am Bays wrote:Well done to the boys on the Hill tonight, first three wickets all coincided with them getting a Mexican wave going. Did O'Keefe turn any tonight all I saw was batsmen playing for the turn and getting bowled/missing straight ones.

'Ritz the best slow bowler I saw tonight

U have to be kidding. Okeefe destroyed the redbacks top order with good variety.
Hauritz bowled rubbish as usual and apart fron pollard picked up some cheap scalps at the end. Gap in class between okeefe and hauritz isnt funny.


Shut up you clown. All you're ever doing is talking up a guy like O'Keefe and rubbishing Hauritz all the time which proves you know jack s__t about cricket. Go talk to people that actually know something about spin bowling like Swann, Warne, Murali, Vettori etc and ask them what they think of Hauritz. Hauritz has done nothing but made the selectors look pretty ordinary since he's gone back to state cricket.

Mate you have no idea. Whenever hauritz plays alongside okeefe, how come most times okeefe comes out on top? You are that blinded by a guy that is so inept its not funny. Hauritz WILL never play again in tests for australia and thats about the only thing the selectors have got right this series. Of course other spinners will stick up for him but what about the likes of chappel,border amongst others who wanted him flicked after his pathetic indian tour. Also why was warnie pushing for beer above hauritz?
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby jackpot jim » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:56 am

Dutchy wrote:SOme strange batting from the Redbacks, 6 of the last 7 bats all out caught in the outfield.

Even after Pollard left they only needed 7 per over and could have got to a situation of needing 10-12 off the last over by just taking singles, instead they try to hit it like Pollard and give easy catches.


Exactly right.
Just what are these blokes thinking when they bat?
Do they actually go out there with a stratedgy?
How about they just bat to their ability & limitations and then place them in the batting order according to the situation.
What was a fairly straight forward run chase imo, was buthchered by the incompetent shot selection of the top order and only a Hookesesque like innings by Pollard saved them from complete embarrassment.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:01 am

Gozu wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
am Bays wrote:Well done to the boys on the Hill tonight, first three wickets all coincided with them getting a Mexican wave going. Did O'Keefe turn any tonight all I saw was batsmen playing for the turn and getting bowled/missing straight ones.

'Ritz the best slow bowler I saw tonight

U have to be kidding. Okeefe destroyed the redbacks top order with good variety.
Hauritz bowled rubbish as usual and apart fron pollard picked up some cheap scalps at the end. Gap in class between okeefe and hauritz isnt funny.


Shut up you clown. All you're ever doing is talking up a guy like O'Keefe and rubbishing Hauritz all the time which proves you know jack s__t about cricket. Go talk to people that actually know something about spin bowling like Swann, Warne, Murali, Vettori etc and ask them what they think of Hauritz. Hauritz has done nothing but made the selectors look pretty ordinary since he's gone back to state cricket.

I can't remember seeing any quotes from Murali or Vettori saying Hauritz was unlucky to be dropped or he was a class spinner.
last I looked Warne was endorsing beer for selection.
Can you please also explain how Hauritz has made the selectors look ordinary since going back to state cricket??????????
Assuming they go on his bowling stats of course because that's what he's paid to do.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby jackpot jim » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:02 am

Watch the crowds start to plummet if they continue to serve up those performances.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:04 am

Jim05 wrote:U have to be kidding. Okeefe destroyed the redbacks top order with good variety.
Hauritz bowled rubbish as usual and apart fron pollard picked up some cheap scalps at the end. Gap in class between okeefe and hauritz isnt funny.

Fair summary I would've thought.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:07 am

jackpot jim wrote:Watch the crowds start to plummet if they continue to serve up those performances.

I think they got the batting order wrong tonight.

If Pollard goes up to 5 we'll be better served.
Tait was very rusty too.
Maybe Manou can bat at 8 and use his brain.
The other import Rashid??? would wanna do a bit better 2nd game
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby jackpot jim » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:14 am

jackpot jim wrote:Whats wrong with Ferguson ?

Tait Fastest ball tip - 151.6 kph

Crowd tip - 15,371

Match Result - NSW


Tait fastest ball from what i saw was 149.5 kph (98.61 % correct)

Crowd - About 17,500 from memory. (about 88% correct)

Match Result - NSW (100% correct) :roll:
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:33 am

smithy wrote:I can't remember seeing any quotes from Murali or Vettori saying Hauritz was unlucky to be dropped or he was a class spinner.
last I looked Warne was endorsing beer for selection.
Can you please also explain how Hauritz has made the selectors look ordinary since going back to state cricket??????????
Assuming they go on his bowling stats of course because that's what he's paid to do.


Shane Warne on Hauritz:

"I think Nathan Hauritz is the number one spinner, he's got a very good record in Australia and I'm sure he'll get given the first chance, he deserves that," Warne said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ite=sydney

But with the Ashes battle delicately poised at 1-1, Warne has called for the in-form Nathan Hauritz to be rushed back into the side for the Melbourne and Sydney Tests.

"I think Beer was a horses for courses selection (in Perth)," Warne wrote in a blog for the Australian Daily Telegraph.

"What has impressed me about Hauritz, he's gone back and taken wickets and made runs.

"As I said before the Test series, I think Hauritz deserves first chance and if he didn't work out, try the next in line.

"So I think it still stands that Hauritz deserves a chance for Melbourne and Sydney."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... -Test.html

Murali on Hauritz:

"I think he has done well on the recent Indian tour, it's a hard place to get figures there, (especially) for a spinner because the Indians play spin so well. But you can't just let him go because of one or two matches," Fox Sports quoted Muralitharan, as saying.

"You have to give him another opportunity and see. The Ashes is a big thing for Australia and you need your best starting XI, so if he doesn't make it that's up to the selectors."

"He's a good bowler and proved in the past he can take wickets. The mentality [between Sri Lanka and Australia] is different because we go with spin most of the time, and Australia go with fast bowlers, so it really is up to selectors," he added.

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat ... title=9973
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:39 am

smithy wrote:I can't remember seeing any quotes from Murali or Vettori saying Hauritz was unlucky to be dropped or he was a class spinner.
last I looked Warne was endorsing beer for selection.
Can you please also explain how Hauritz has made the selectors look ordinary since going back to state cricket??????????
Assuming they go on his bowling stats of course because that's what he's paid to do.


Vettori on Hauritz:

One of the world's finest spinners, New Zealand skipper Daniel Vettori, has always gone strongly into bat for Hauritz.

"I have been really impressed by him," Vettori said recently.

"He is a very courageous bowler. From watching Hauritz it has reinforced to me that if you back yourself and you are good enough, you can make a real difference in international cricket."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/natha ... 5957392066

Graeme Swann on Hauritz:

THE best spin bowler in the world has panned Australian selectors for sacking Nathan Hauritz.
Graeme Swann, who took the most wickets in Test cricket last year, was so impressed by Hauritz he studied video footage of the out-of-favour tweaker before landing in Australia.

Swann is staggered the Ashes series is about to end without Hauritz delivering a single ball.

The untried Michael Beer will make his Test debut at the SCG.

"I honestly don't understand how the Australian selection works," Swann said.

"It is obviously different to how it works in England. I don't know why he was dropped in the first place and why he has not been brought back in.

"I've said before I'm a fan of Nathan Hauritz's bowling. He's an off-spinner. I'm an off-spinner. You have a certain kinship towards your fellow competitor when he does the same thing you do.

I feel sorry for him. I don't think he deserved to miss out on this whole series.

"He bowled well against England two years ago in Australia and he's a guy who caused a few of our guys problems.

"I don't understand why he hasn't been given a shout, but that's been good for us."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5979995603
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:40 am

Sri Lankan off-spinner Muttiah Muralitharan believes that his Australian counterpart Nathan Hauritz can bounce back from his disastrous tour of India to bowl his team to an Ashes victory.

Hauritz was ineffective against Indian batsmen in the Tests, averaging 65 for his six wickets. He also went wicketless in Australia's five-wicket defeat in the second ODI in Visakhapatnam.

Muralitharan defended Hauritz's disappointing returns saying that India is an extremely difficult place to bowl spin.

"I think he has done well on the recent Indian tour, it's a hard place to get figures there, (especially) for a spinner because the Indians play spin so well. But you can't just let him go because of one or two matches," Fox Sports quoted Muralitharan, as saying.

"You have to give him another opportunity and see. The Ashes is a big thing for Australia and you need your best starting XI, so if he doesn't make it that's up to the selectors."


Is that the best endorsement you can get ??????
Please !
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:45 am

One of the world's finest spinners, New Zealand skipper Daniel Vettori, has always gone strongly into bat for Hauritz.

"I have been really impressed by him," Vettori said recently.

"He is a very courageous bowler. From watching Hauritz it has reinforced to me that if you back yourself and you are good enough, you can make a real difference in international cricket."


Still yet to see anyone claim he is a class spinner.
They just endorse him.
They are hardly going to come out in the media and say he is crap are they.

O'Keefe is a better option and proved so tonight.
Hauritz is crap and finished, get over it
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:45 am

smithy wrote:Is that the best endorsement you can get ??????
Please !


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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:46 am

smithy wrote:One of the world's finest spinners, New Zealand skipper Daniel Vettori, has always gone strongly into bat for Hauritz.

"I have been really impressed by him," Vettori said recently.

"He is a very courageous bowler. From watching Hauritz it has reinforced to me that if you back yourself and you are good enough, you can make a real difference in international cricket."


Still yet to see anyone claim he is a class spinner.
They just endorse him.
They are hardly going to come out in the media and say he is crap are they.

O'Keefe is a better option and proved so tonight.
Hauritz is crap and finished, get over it


You're even more idiotic than I thought smithy.

"I have been really impressed by him," Vettori said recently.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:51 am

"I've said before I'm a fan of Nathan Hauritz's bowling. He's an off-spinner. I'm an off-spinner. You have a certain kinship towards your fellow competitor when he does the same thing you do.
Says it all really, they ain't going to bag other players in the media.
Doesn't happen in any sport.

If they brought in Shaun tanner from Southern Districts to all of a sudden play the next test no opposition player is going to criticise him for fear of it coming back to bite him on the buttocks.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:53 am

Gozu wrote:
smithy wrote:Is that the best endorsement you can get ??????
Please !


All four champ like I said.

If you are turned on by players like "horry" then I'm happy for you.
I'd rather follow the talented players.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:59 am

smithy wrote:"I've said before I'm a fan of Nathan Hauritz's bowling. He's an off-spinner. I'm an off-spinner. You have a certain kinship towards your fellow competitor when he does the same thing you do.
Says it all really, they ain't going to bag other players in the media.
Doesn't happen in any sport.

If they brought in Shaun tanner from Southern Districts to all of a sudden play the next test no opposition player is going to criticise him for fear of it coming back to bite him on the buttocks.


You left out the part about Swann studying video footage of Hauritz.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby Gozu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:01 am

smithy wrote:
Gozu wrote:
smithy wrote:Is that the best endorsement you can get ??????
Please !


All four champ like I said.

If you are turned on by players like "horry" then I'm happy for you.
I'd rather follow the talented players.


No I just think Warne, Murali, Vettori & Swann know something about spin bowling as opposed to a couple of muppets on an internet forum.
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Re: SA vs NSW Big Bash 20/20

Postby smithy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:02 am

I could find an article saying that Kevin Higgins, Steven trigg and Rick davies are good coaches.

Does that make them good coaches ???????

Their record suggest NOT.
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