River Murray Football League talk

[jstlookin]

Very interesting as the rumour has it Mannum would be out of points before recruiting these players. So either they have had to move some of last years players on or there are going to be a few points players rotating through the reserves. Can anyone shed any light on this matter.

Is Clive still there? may now have some spare points up there sleeve.

Good point but i thouoght they did sign Clive to hang around again next year. but if this is not the case they would probly have enough points for one of these players possibly not both. But in saying that they could have more points available than alot of people are lead to beleive

[GWW]

Mannum players from last year:

Hall - presumably 4 pointer 2010, so 3 in 2011 if he returns?
Waterhouse - 4 pointer in 2009, 2 in 2011?
Sarno - is he returning? I'm guessing he'd be zero in 2011
Hunter - has been discussed he's moving on to a new club in 2011
Mueller - I'm guessing he'd be a zero pointer for 2011 (from YP league in 2009, they're 2 point players from that League into RMFL).

So if its assumed Hall returns (3 points); Waterhouse (2), then the 2 guys from the Barossa - 2x3=6

11 points, although thats just by my reckoning.

[jstlookin]

Mannum players from last year:

Hall - presumably 4 pointer 2010, so 3 in 2011 if he returns?
Waterhouse - 4 pointer in 2009, 2 in 2011?
Sarno - is he returning? I'm guessing he'd be zero in 2011
Hunter - has been discussed he's moving on to a new club in 2011
Mueller - I'm guessing he'd be a zero pointer for 2011 (from YP league in 2009, they're 2 point players from that League into RMFL).

So if its assumed Hall returns (3 points); Waterhouse (2), then the 2 guys from the Barossa - 2x3=6

11 points, although thats just by my reckoning.

Thanks GWW do you have any idea on points allocation to each team in this league for 2011. Is it based on their finish in 2010. if so you wouldnt think Ramblers Mannum and Imps would get alot off points allocatoed.

[GWW]

I'm curious about that too jstlookin, I haven't seen it written anywhere, i've checked on the RMFL website but nothing there.

It will be interesting to see how some of the clubs deal with their points in 2011, i don't think Ramblers would have much of a problem as they generally use up a small amount of points from one year to another and preumably wouldn't be carrying many over in 2011. Imps reportedly have lost Fitzgerald so there's some points up their sleeve for them.

The club that may possibly have issues is Meningie, although thats purely based on the fact they had quite a few outside recruits last year, and having finished 4th, their allocation will presumably decrease. But its been suggested they may lost one or two players with points, so that may free up some points for them.

[jstlookin]

I'm curious about that too jstlookin, I haven't seen it written anywhere, i've checked on the RMFL website but nothing there.

It will be interesting to see how some of the clubs deal with their points in 2011, i don't think Ramblers would have much of a problem as they generally use up a small amount of points from one year to another and preumably wouldn't be carrying many over in 2011. Imps reportedly have lost Fitzgerald so there's some points up their sleeve for them.

The club that may possibly have issues is Meningie, although thats purely based on the fact they had quite a few outside recruits last year, and having finished 4th, their allocation will presumably decrease. But its been suggested they may lost one or two players with points, so that may free up some points for them.

I have also looked on the web site and like yourself unalbe to find anything related to the points matter.

It has been known that Ramblers wont use alot of their points as you suggest. I beleive it has been confirmed that Fitzgerald has left Imps but i beleive have just picked up player that played juniors for the club so no points used their. Also think that it was posted on here a while back they have picked up a ruckman which will have used up the points from Fitzgerald leaving. So maybe not alot left for the Blues.

Have heard same rumour that Meninge will lose 2 or 3 of their points players from last year. Heading back closer to town.


So will be interesting to see how the points get managed in the coming months.

[Goldberg]

1st & 2nd 10 points
3rd 11
4th 12
5th 13
6th 14
7th 15

& Meningie get an extra 2 points every year no matter where they finish, this is the new proposed for 2011 as far as I've heard

Previous years have been 1-4th 10 points, 5th 13, 6-7th 15 with Meningie 2 points extra

[the watcher]

Points allocation for 2011 is
Ramblers, Mannum , Imps -10
Meningie, Mypo -13
Jervois , Tailem -15

[Mythical Creature]

1st & 2nd 10 points
3rd 11
4th 12
5th 13
6th 14
7th 15

& Meningie get an extra 2 points every year no matter where they finish, this is the new proposed for 2011 as far as I've heard

Previous years have been 1-4th 10 points, 5th 13, 6-7th 15 with Meningie 2 points extra

Why do Meningie get extra points?? Is it a population issue? IF so could you provide me with a link, so I could look at the wording or how they applied to get these extra points. Cheers.

[jstlookin]

1st & 2nd 10 points
3rd 11
4th 12
5th 13
6th 14
7th 15

& Meningie get an extra 2 points every year no matter where they finish, this is the new proposed for 2011 as far as I've heard

Previous years have been 1-4th 10 points, 5th 13, 6-7th 15 with Meningie 2 points extra

Why do Meningie get extra points?? Is it a population issue? IF so could you provide me with a link, so I could look at the wording or how they applied to get these extra points. Cheers.

MC not saying this is why they get the extra points but my guess would be due to the population of the town and the distance it is from Adelaide.

[GWW]

I'm pretty sure its the distance issue.

[slug]

1st & 2nd 10 points
3rd 11
4th 12
5th 13
6th 14
7th 15

& Meningie get an extra 2 points every year no matter where they finish, this is the new proposed for 2011 as far as I've heard

Previous years have been 1-4th 10 points, 5th 13, 6-7th 15 with Meningie 2 points extra

Why do Meningie get extra points?? Is it a population issue? IF so could you provide me with a link, so I could look at the wording or how they applied to get these extra points. Cheers.

MC not saying this is why they get the extra points but my guess would be due to the population of the town and the distance it is from Adelaide.

this just shows how crap this system realy is,for example: imps 11 points-tailem 15 points!! i think the difference betwen these two teams is more than 1 good player or 2 average players

[the watcher]

Imps are 10 points. The RMFL adjusts the points at a meeting of Delegates every year.
The points system has plenty of faults, just as the salary cap system had however is harder to cheat.
Dont know if there is an answer that everyone is searching for.
Its not much good having lots of points if you cant (a) attract good players or (b) cant afford to use all your points.
You still need to recruit wisely and spend within your means , which comes back to good management (and luck sometimes)
Suspect the answer may be to cut every clubs point back a bit, meaning less recruits for all clubs .(although dont think this would get Mannums support )
If you can keep your recruits every year, the fact that they drop by 1 means you can keep recruiting more every year.Its when you lose them all your in trouble.

[jstlookin]

i think the points system definitely has its faults as every system does. But also it does make it alot harder when the big clubs or the clubs that are within Murray Bridge or sorrounding towns with a decent population of locals to choose from and then also get allocated 10 or more points which if they recruit wisely will be very hard to compete against. It is really hard to be competitive when alot of the sides outside of Murray Bridge excluding Mannum are getting enough extra points to maybe get that one extra good player or two okay players. When most of the sides are needing an extra 3 or 4 players to match it with these sides.

Maybe when points are being reviewed and allocated these things should be taken into consideration and thouhgt about a little more carefully and if you dont give the other sides more points maybe give the better sides less points to make it more even.

[slug]

the points system was introduced to create a level playing field and a better comp not to win teams flags,it's fine to say clubs need to keep recuits but after 3 years most players are sick of traveling and go then you have to replace a 0 pointer with a 3 pointer back to square one again!!where does it end?

[Goldberg]

Points system is the best thing that we have, but the watcher is onto a very smart direction. The amount of points needs to be dropped, especially for the top 2 sides (GF sides) not minor round.

The major problem in grass roots footy at the moment is the amount of $$$ clubs have to pay to recruit players. It now is more important then ever to get your best juniors back to the club when they have finished having a crack at higher levels.

[carey]

Points system is the best thing that we have, but the watcher is onto a very smart direction. The amount of points needs to be dropped, especially for the top 2 sides (GF sides) not minor round.

The major problem in grass roots footy at the moment is the amount of $$$ clubs have to pay to recruit players. It now is more important then ever to get your best juniors back to the club when they have finished having a crack at higher levels.

in the RMFL yes maybe but for a league like mine (mallee) it will kill the league inside 2 years

[Goldberg]

From the Riverland thread:

Looks like Jake Bowen will be playing at Tailem Bend instead of Barmera next season ? Along with Wark from Sturt

[GWW]

There seems to have been a bit of discussion on a couple of clubs, especially Tailem who obviously need to recruit, but not some other clubs.

From information, predominantly provided on here, I'll attempt a summary of discussions/rumours etc (some would have officially signed, some are likely to be pure rumour):

IMPS
IN
Trewren (Barossa)
edit: ruckman from EP
OUT
Fitzgerald (club over on Eyre Peninsula)

MANNUM
IN
Wells and Kennedy from Tanunda in Barossa League
OUT
Hunter

JERVOIS
IN
Chris Ladams as coach, plus brother
Linked to Coulter and White
Rumours about Ewer returning
OUT
Uncertainty about S Braun returning due to move to Riverland

TAILEM
IN
Wark and Bowen from Sturt
Owen and Ray Love (formerly of Encounter Bay and Sydney amateurs)
OUT
Gabb (Southern League)
Vickers??
Winra returning??
There was also lots of speculation a few months ago about locals moving to the Mallee League but not much on this recently

RAMBLERS
IN
Not much discussed at this stage
OUT
Doubts on Dougall due to cricket commitments
edit: Zadow to Karoonda

MENINGIE
IN
Not much discussed
OUT
Speculation that a few city based players including Brunoli might be moving on
edit: Rossi to SAAFL

MYPO
IN
Not much discussed
OUT
edit: Eckermann to Port Magpies

Does anyone have anything else to add?

[Goldberg]

There seems to have been a bit of discussion on a couple of clubs, especially Tailem who obviously need to recruit, but not some other clubs.

From information, predominantly provided on here, I'll attempt a summary of discussions/rumours etc (some would have officially signed, some are likely to be pure rumour):

IMPS
IN
Trewren (Barossa)& an EP Ruckman
OUT
Fitzgerald (club over on Eyre Peninsula)

MANNUM
IN
Wells and Kennedy from Tanunda in Barossa League
OUT
Hunter

JERVOIS
IN
Chris Ladams as coach, plus brother
Linked to Coulter and White
Rumours about Ewer returning
OUT
Uncertainty about S Braun returning due to move to Riverland

TAILEM
IN
Wark and Bowen from Sturt
Owen and Ray Love (formerly of Encounter Bay and Sydney AFL)
OUT
Gabb (Southern League)
Vickers??
Winra returning??
There was also lots of speculation a few months ago about locals moving to the Mallee League but not much on this recently

RAMBLERS
IN
Not much discussed at this stage
OUT
Doubts on Dougall due to cricket commitments Zadow to Karoonda

MENINGIE
IN
Not much discussed
OUT
Speculation that a few city based players including Brunoli might be moving on Rossi to SAAFL

MYPO
Very little discussed re ins and outs Eckermann to Port
T. Edwards In???

Does anyone have anything else to add?

[GWW]

Has the Edwards to Meningie one been spoken about recently (i don't mean on this site)?