When Is SA Cricket going to get its act together..?

[MightyEagles]

Like I've been saying for a while and what someone said on 5aa the other night, cut down the number of grade teams from 13 to about 8. I think that alinging the grade teams with SANFL teams might be the way to go.

[EasyE]

Take a step back in time to April 3, 1996 (one of the happiest, most nerve racking days of my life) and compare the current side to the one that represented SA on that day:

Blewett, Nobes, Webber, Lehmann, Siddons, Brayshaw, Nielsen, May, Gillespie, McIntyre, George.

First thing i notice is that i can count only 3 interstaters (Please correct me if im wrong) in Siddons, Brayshaw and McIntyre who were all class. I think that is just about the maximum that we should have now. I'd much rather see a young, local lad being given a shot than an ordinary recruit (Cooper, Lang, Blizzard, Wise). I find it incredibly frustrating that guys like Haberfield, Bailey and Putland keep missing out and people like Duval, Edmondson and Lang get a game instead.

Secondly, would any current players make that team? I honestly doubt it. Maybe Ferg or Klinger in for Darren Webber but even that i find hard to do as on his day he was a gun!

The last time i was excited about the redbacks was when Ferguson, Cosgrove, Borgas, Cameron, Plant, Bailey, Cullen, Tait all came on the scene and i thought we were on the verge of a golden era. What happened? They all showed bucket loads of potential but only one or two seemed to develop. I am fairly confident that if we had invested 5 years of first class cricket into those guys we would be in a much healthier position than we currently are. It's time to find the next generation of local cricketers and GIVE THEM A GO!!!

[whufc]

Take a step back in time to April 3, 1996 (one of the happiest, most nerve racking days of my life) and compare the current side to the one that represented SA on that day:

Blewett, Nobes, Webber, Lehmann, Siddons, Brayshaw, Nielsen, May, Gillespie, McIntyre, George.

First thing i notice is that i can count only 3 interstaters (Please correct me if im wrong) in Siddons, Brayshaw and McIntyre who were all class. I think that is just about the maximum that we should have now. I'd much rather see a young, local lad being given a shot than an ordinary recruit (Cooper, Lang, Blizzard, Wise). I find it incredibly frustrating that guys like Haberfield, Bailey and Putland keep missing out and people like Duval, Edmondson and Lang get a game instead.

Secondly, would any current players make that team? I honestly doubt it. Maybe Ferg or Klinger in for Darren Webber but even that i find hard to do as on his day he was a gun!

The last time i was excited about the redbacks was when Ferguson, Cosgrove, Borgas, Cameron, Plant, Bailey, Cullen, Tait all came on the scene and i thought we were on the verge of a golden era. What happened? They all showed bucket loads of potential but only one or two seemed to develop. I am fairly confident that if we had invested 5 years of first class cricket into those guys we would be in a much healthier position than we currently are. It's time to find the next generation of local cricketers and GIVE THEM A GO!!!

sorry to be pedantic Duval is South Australian played his juniors for Golden Grove and then Northern Jets, went to Tasmania for oppurtunities and has now returned.

[Bulls forever]

Take a step back in time to April 3, 1996 (one of the happiest, most nerve racking days of my life) and compare the current side to the one that represented SA on that day:

Blewett, Nobes, Webber, Lehmann, Siddons, Brayshaw, Nielsen, May, Gillespie, McIntyre, George.

First thing i notice is that i can count only 3 interstaters (Please correct me if im wrong) in Siddons, Brayshaw and McIntyre who were all class. I think that is just about the maximum that we should have now. I'd much rather see a young, local lad being given a shot than an ordinary recruit (Cooper, Lang, Blizzard, Wise). I find it incredibly frustrating that guys like Haberfield, Bailey and Putland keep missing out and people like Duval, Edmondson and Lang get a game instead.

Secondly, would any current players make that team? I honestly doubt it. Maybe Ferg or Klinger in for Darren Webber but even that i find hard to do as on his day he was a gun!

The last time i was excited about the redbacks was when Ferguson, Cosgrove, Borgas, Cameron, Plant, Bailey, Cullen, Tait all came on the scene and i thought we were on the verge of a golden era. What happened? They all showed bucket loads of potential but only one or two seemed to develop. I am fairly confident that if we had invested 5 years of first class cricket into those guys we would be in a much healthier position than we currently are. It's time to find the next generation of local cricketers and GIVE THEM A GO!!!

Sorry easy, Haberfield did hammy in pommy game and Putland is first game back from injury, but I take your point.

[smithy]

Just putting the question out there.......

Which is the biggest mistake??????

Keep selecting a wicket keeper whose batting is poor and according to some on here has had an armchair ride for years at the selection table.

Release one of your better bowlers who wanted a 2 year contract, but was only offered a 1 year deal to QLD who then represents Australia.

Release possibly your best batsman because he is over weight despite putting decent numbers on the board ?????

[is it alice]

Just putting the question out there.......

Which is the biggest mistake??????

Keep selecting a wicket keeper whose batting is poor and according to some on here has had an armchair ride for years at the selection table.

Release one of your better bowlers who wanted a 2 year contract, but was only offered a 1 year deal to QLD who then represents Australia.

Release possibly your best batsman because he is over weight despite putting decent numbers on the board ?????

think thats why others are saying about putting ludeman in side before another balls up happens and another state come and grab him as well just as manou is about to fade into the horizon. we lost 2 others though poor decisions not another one please. would be

[Footy Smart]

Just putting the question out there.......

Which is the biggest mistake??????

Keep selecting a wicket keeper whose batting is poor and according to some on here has had an armchair ride for years at the selection table.

Release one of your better bowlers who wanted a 2 year contract, but was only offered a 1 year deal to QLD who then represents Australia.

Release possibly your best batsman because he is over weight despite putting decent numbers on the board ?????

think thats why others are saying about putting ludeman in side before another balls up happens and another state come and grab him as well just as manou is about to fade into the horizon. we lost 2 others though poor decisions not another one please. would be

IIA are you Ludeman himself or do you have an obsession with him that the police should know about? its actually embarrassing that you rate him so highly....... He is an average keeper/Batsmen (last season 104 runs from 8 innings ) and would suggest that if Tim Davey had the year he had last season (465 runs @ 45) in 08/09 it would be Ludeman who.

[Bulls forever]

Just putting the question out there.......

Which is the biggest mistake??????

Keep selecting a wicket keeper whose batting is poor and according to some on here has had an armchair ride for years at the selection table.

Release one of your better bowlers who wanted a 2 year contract, but was only offered a 1 year deal to QLD who then represents Australia.

Release possibly your best batsman because he is over weight despite putting decent numbers on the board ?????

think thats why others are saying about putting ludeman in side before another balls up happens and another state come and grab him as well just as manou is about to fade into the horizon. we lost 2 others though poor decisions not another one please. would be

So Alice, we snatched him from Victoria, who is going to snatch him up.
WA - Ronchi and Johnson
Vic - Wade - same age as Ludeman and Carters (who also scores heavily in grade)
NSW - Haddin, Smith, Neville
Tas - Payne & Jones
Qld - Hartley (perhaps 26 or 27).

Can't really see an opening in the near future there. I'm up for a reasonable discussion if you can give me something to debate.

[Dogmatic]

Future is not looking too good with our U/19's getting rolled by the Northern Territory yesterday.

[Bulls forever]

Future is not looking too good with our U/19's getting rolled by the Northern Territory yesterday.

Doggy, bit quick with that one, firstly NT get to play overage players, secondly we have some good kids in that side - Garrett, in his 5th year of U19's and now making good runs in Grade, Dougall - Aus U19's last year, Trav Head - still eligible for U17's and making runs in Grade for the mighty Bulls, thirdly got beaten by Duckworth/Lewis because we lost a couple of quick wickets before the rain came which put us up against it. Big test against REB's mob today and tomorrow, if the rain stays away.

I think the question is, we generally compete pretty well in underage cricket, can the development of these young lads be continued under our High Performance people. SMAC says yes we can with the new team in there, time will obviously tell.

[Footy Smart]

SA 229 v NSW 1/21 over night

Trav Head 60
Lehman 57
Barrett 55

As BF said and i have said in another thread, the youngsters playing 19s are getting good A grade expereince and competing well at that grade at an early age. The talent is there, but they need the High Perfomance coaching to see them become above average A grade cricketers and future Redbacks

[GWW]

The Lehmann listed above is Darren's son, is that correct? If so, for those that have seen him, does he show much promise?

[Footy Smart]

The Lehmann listed above is Darren's son, is that correct? If so, for those that have seen him, does he show much promise?

It is his son, he can hit a ball, has a few little trick shots like his father. Needs to develop a bit further as far as building an innnings but that will come with maturity! Could be anything, just like the other under 19 players.

[Media Park]

Thus far in FC Cricket this season, our leaders are:

AC Blizzard 378 runs
CJ Ferguson 322 runs
DT Christian 309 runs
GA Manou 253 runs
M Klinger 223 runs

and

PR George 16 wickets
RJ Cassell 14 wickets
DT Christian 12 wickets
AW O'Brien 10 wickets
GD Putland 5 wickets (one game only)

[Media Park]

Thus far in ODD cricket this season, our leaders are:

DT Christian 282 runs
TLW Cooper 211 runs
M Klinger 148 runs
CJ Ferguson 116 runs (two innings)
GA Manou 116 runs

and

DT Christian 12 wickets
BM Edmonson 11 wickets
CJ Duval 9 wickets
GD Putland 8 wickets
AW O'Brien 4 wickets

[Bulls forever]

Hasnt worked so far. We recruit mostly mediocre intetstate players when we could have spent a bit more and got quality intetstate players. We do have to develop district better but that could take years so in the mean time we need to stop being the jokes of australia.

But Jim, our "mediocre" recruits, kicking off with Michael Klinger, haven't been too shabby... Not all superstars, but how often can you entice a genuine superstar away from another state?

The issue is management for mine. Cossie can make runs, and we got rid of him because he was too heavy...

I don't give a flying rats tossbag (thanks Blighty) what the SACA think, but he's a run machine, and we somehow let him go. Unacceptable.

Rhino left because we couldn't come to contract terms... Now he's played all three forms of International cricket- based originally on his SA performances, and we let him go.

I've got no problem recruiting guys like Klinger or O'Brien, because they justify their spots.

I don't care if our entire XI was made up of recycled state players.

Media, here you go, our next Shield Team.
Cooper - NSW
Thornton - ACT
Klinger - Vic
Blizzard - Vic
Davies - Vic
Christian - NSW
Ludeman - Vic
O'Brien - NSW
Lang - NSW
Cassell - VIC
Edmondson - WA

Coach Jamie Cox - Tas, Ass coach Ashley(?) Ross - Act

Ferg and The George miss out because they are SA born and bred.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Did anyone hear the interview Ken Cunningham had with Jamie Cox on the radio yesterday?

I only heard a bit of it because i wasnt really listening, but KG slammed the local grade comp and said something needed to be fixed, and Cox basically told him he (KG) didnt understand certain issues within the grade comp and then went on to basically say as an aussie selector he is too busy watching other states and games to really take much notice of our grade comp or to fix it..

SO WTF IS HE HERE FOR!?!?!?!

[GWW]

Sounds like he just admitted he can't do the 2 jobs he's being paid for.

[MAY-Z]

Did anyone hear the interview Ken Cunningham had with Jamie Cox on the radio yesterday?

I only heard a bit of it because i wasnt really listening, but KJ slammed the local grade comp and said something needed to be fixed, and Cox basically told him he (KJ) didnt understand certain issues within the grade comp and then went on to basically say as an aussie selector he is too busy watching other states and games to really take much notice of our grade comp or to fix it..

SO WTF IS HE HERE FOR!?!?!?!

not quite what he said - kj slammed him for trying to do to jobs and for the state of grade cricket

cox said kj didnt understand how cox perfomrs his roles but then he contradicted himslef by saying that he spends a lot of time watching other cricket

in regards to grade cricket cox agreed but as has been pointed out on this forum numerous times the clubs/commitees refuse to do anything about it

cox never said he dint have the time to take notice or try to fix the grade comp

[dedja]

Who's KJ???

Kenneth George Cunningham ... KG or Cunnington to his mates.