botham versus chappell

[bayman]

i heard something on the radio last night but it was in the background so i never heard it properly, today i saw the 'newsposters' outside deli's & newsagents which said something along the lines of botham v chappell.........now i know they have a history going back around 30 years, but what happened (if anything) this time ?


ps, 30 years ago i'd back chappell to win a fight, but today i'd back botham

[Adelaide Hawk]

I'm just disppointed that two cricketers I admire, two greats and ambassadors of the game, choose to resort to this boorish behaviour.

[Media Park]

According to Chappeli on Page 3 of the Tiser, it is rubbish...

"overactive imagination, and eye and ear deficiencies"

[smithy]

http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31050&start=540

[Rik E Boy]

I'm just disppointed that two cricketers I admire, two greats and ambassadors of the game, choose to resort to this boorish behaviour.

Hear hear. Chappel was a players man who did much to improve the lot of players and Botham has done much on and off the field worthy of admiration. Shake hands and have a beer FFS or just avoid each other like you have for the past few decades.

regards,

REB

[JK]

Seems they've stayed true to their competitive instinct though

[Dogwatcher]

Chappelli's putting up more of a fight than the players.

[Rik E Boy]

Chappelli's putting up more of a fight than the players.

Maybe. But he's been through some tough times as well. At one stage in the last 60's South Africa were the best Test nation in the world. Ian Chappell was labelled by his captain Lawry as 'the best batsman in the world'.

This tag turned out to be a heavy burden for Chappell as he, like the rest of the Australians struggled against the likes of Pollocks x2, Proctor, Richards just to name a few in an absolute flogging. We are pretty much where they were then.

Let's hope we can turn it around in five years like we did back then.

regards,

REB

[Dogwatcher]

Chappelli is a complex man.
I love listening to him commentate some times, because he speaks so much commonsense.
Then other times, I think a man that self assured must have an arrogant streak a mile wide.
Whatever the case, he speaks his mind in an intelligent way, not just for effect like some others who speak their mind (Aker, I'm looking at you).
I'm very jealous of anyone outside of immediate family who had the privilege of sitting down and listening to VY Richardson talking cricket with his grandsons as they grew up. Would have been an intimate look at Australian cricket.

Imagine though what Chappelli's going to be like when he is 80 odd - one cranky old man.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I'm very jealous of anyone outside of immediate family who had the privilege of sitting down and listening to VY Richardson talking cricket with his grandsons as they grew up. Would have been an intimate look at Australian cricket.

Actually, Chappell has said he never really talked about cricket all that much with Vic. He said he would spot Vic trying not to be seen at matches, but he rarely offered advice. Chappell once said the only advice Vic offered him was, "If you ever captain Australia, don't captain like a Victorian".

[Adelaide Hawk]

Chappelli's putting up more of a fight than the players.

Maybe. But he's been through some tough times as well. At one stage in the last 60's South Africa were the best Test nation in the world. Ian Chappell was labelled by his captain Lawry as 'the best batsman in the world'.

This tag turned out to be a heavy burden for Chappell as he, like the rest of the Australians struggled against the likes of Pollocks x2, Proctor, Richards just to name a few in an absolute flogging. We are pretty much where they were then.

Let's hope we can turn it around in five years like we did back then.

regards,

REB

Back in 1967-68, Ian's Test career was on the skids, had been around a while and a string of average scores looked as though he would be dropped. Then he made 151 against India at the MCG and his career turned around after that.

The young cricketers rated more highly than Chappell at the time were Paul Sheahan and Doug Walters, but after a highly successful 1968-69 series against West Indies he became world class.

[Rik E Boy]

Ah Douggie Walters my Uncle's idol. And from what I read about Paul Sheehan he was an outstanding fieldsman. I have watched Douggie and Chappelli but don't recall Sheehan. I remember reading that it was Lawry who put the 'best batsman in the world' tag on Chappell which is a bit rude considering that one G Pollock was lining up for the Saffies.

regards,

REB

[Dogwatcher]

AH, I do remember that "don't captain like a Victorian" line.
Classic.

I wonder if Ian passed that notion on to Hookesy.

[GWW]

I think Ian probably got most of his cricketing philosophies from Les Favell. Then Chappelli passed onto Hookes. I'm not certain where the current 11 got their cricketing philosophies from though

[Rik E Boy]

I think Ian probably got most of his cricketing philosophies from Les Favell. Then Chappelli passed onto Hookes. I'm not certain where the current 11 got their cricketing philosophies from though

NSW and Victoria? Imagine telling Maxie not to captain the side like a Victorian ha ha.

regards,

REB

[Adelaide Hawk]

Ah Douggie Walters my Uncle's idol. And from what I read about Paul Sheehan he was an outstanding fieldsman. I have watched Douggie and Chappelli but don't recall Sheehan. I remember reading that it was Lawry who put the 'best batsman in the world' tag on Chappell which is a bit rude considering that one G Pollock was lining up for the Saffies.

Paul Sheahan made a double hundred for Victoria as a teenager and was all the talk in Australian cricket. He was tall, a fluent and attractive batsman, and brilliant fieldsman. It was easy to imagine him as Australia's next great batsman.

He made his Test debut at number 3 against India at Adelaide Oval and made 81. At that time in cricket, Chappell was struggling to hold a middle order spot, and Walters was doing National Service.

The thing about Sheahan is he is an intelligent man whose academic achievements were a priority over his cricket, thus a truncated career lasting only 31 Tests from 1967-68 to 1973-74. He became Head Master of the prestigeous Geelong Grammar.

At one time he was teaching at St.Peters College in Adelaide and played for S.P.O.C. in the ATCA. In one innings he made 200, his second 100 from only 9 overs. He made 100 against my team in the last minor round, and followed up with another in the semi final.

He started the day square cutting our quick bowler 1st ball for 6, then completely destroyed us. He was also well known as an ABC commentator for several years.