Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

[rockstar]

pfft who cares, yay for brahma lodge end of the day they cant win anything in PDCA so they might as well try their luck in ATCA

... poor sibbick wont be around forever!

Maybe if they were someone like say SW who have been a benchmark side for many years people might give more of a damn about them.

[RedMagpie]

BL have TTG, ND in terms of district sides, then you have pooraka, ingle farm, para hills in turf sides. Compared to Reynella which had nothing to compete with, only to gain from players who couldnt cut it at the stingrays!

Add to that list Prospect and Kensington, Lads have gone to both clubs from the Lodge.

[catchit]

Groover has been very quiet this week, where has that confidence gone? I know you are sitting back thinking where will these runs come from? And you are right it wont be easy early on, my tip is you will try and smack anything in your half and will sky one early off russel..

[Executive Member]

Groover has been very quiet this week, where has that confidence gone? I know you are sitting back thinking where will these runs come from? And you are right it wont be easy early on, my tip is you will try and smack anything in your half and will sky one early off russel..

...to be dropped by catchit

[Lightning McQueen]

I dont think it matters where the club starts. Thats for ATCA to decide.

I think we will continue to have a presence in the PDCA - as Reynella did in SCA. We are not about to move on all the quality people we have at our club purely on the basis of what they offer on the field.

Reynella where always a strong club in the SCA in my time, but I think more importantly they saw that that competition has been in decline for a decade and positioned themselves to be in the best situation for their club looking to the future. Much like Brahma Lodge are doing now.

I dont mean the PDCA is in decline, I just mean that we have made decisions that we believe will ensure the long term viability of our club.

That's a load of frogshit mate, you guys have complained for a few years that the PDCA has become stagnant, I think this season is shaping up to be one of the most open Grade 1 comp for about a decade.
The Lodge has come across some handy sponsors that will rally behind the footy and try to push themselves up the SAAFL ranks with some recruits, to get these recruits you are obviously trying to make the place look more appealling from the outside so moving your cricket to turf is one attraction.
I'm not knocking what the Lodge's intentions are, good on them, if that's the path the members and heirachy want to take, all the best to them. It has nothing to do with "long term viability".
The PDCA is far from being extinct, maybe the lower grades are getting weaker but that's about where the buck stops.
I just hope that when you do go, you either take all of your teams to ATCA or you do seperate registrations for each competition, if you think you can drop your A & B Graders back to a Grade 5 PDCA when it rains or someone can only play one week, there will be sparks flying.
It's not up to me how this is handled but I can see many loopholes that you could slide through, all parties need to dot their i's and cross their t's.
No disrespect to the BLCC, I'd just like to see the fine print.

[catchit]

Groover has been very quiet this week, where has that confidence gone? I know you are sitting back thinking where will these runs come from? And you are right it wont be easy early on, my tip is you will try and smack anything in your half and will sky one early off russel..

...to be dropped by catchit

odds on.. as soon as it goes up, i am out of there

[Browny25]

I dont think it matters where the club starts. Thats for ATCA to decide.

I think we will continue to have a presence in the PDCA - as Reynella did in SCA. We are not about to move on all the quality people we have at our club purely on the basis of what they offer on the field.

Reynella where always a strong club in the SCA in my time, but I think more importantly they saw that that competition has been in decline for a decade and positioned themselves to be in the best situation for their club looking to the future. Much like Brahma Lodge are doing now.

I dont mean the PDCA is in decline, I just mean that we have made decisions that we believe will ensure the long term viability of our club.

That's a load of frogshit mate, you guys have complained for a few years that the PDCA has become stagnant, I think this season is shaping up to be one of the most open Grade 1 comp for about a decade.
The Lodge has come across some handy sponsors that will rally behind the footy and try to push themselves up the SAAFL ranks with some recruits, to get these recruits you are obviously trying to make the place look more appealling from the outside so moving your cricket to turf is one attraction.
I'm not knocking what the Lodge's intentions are, good on them, if that's the path the members and heirachy want to take, all the best to them. It has nothing to do with "long term viability".
The PDCA is far from being extinct, maybe the lower grades are getting weaker but that's about where the buck stops.
I just hope that when you do go, you either take all of your teams to ATCA or you do seperate registrations for each competition, if you think you can drop your A & B Graders back to a Grade 5 PDCA when it rains or someone can only play one week, there will be sparks flying.
It's not up to me how this is handled but I can see many loopholes that you could slide through, all parties need to dot their i's and cross their t's.
No disrespect to the BLCC, I'd just like to see the fine print.

Footy and cricket are two very much seperate idetities LM - And I assure you that the decision to go to turf had nothing to do with footy.

[Lightning McQueen]

Maybe not, but I'm sure it wasn't about long term viability of your club. If anything, it would be a detriment with the ongoing costs relating to having a turf wicket.

[bothamsfearnley]

Wow, some massive assumptions there LM. I'm not here to be the spokesman for the club but you have come up with a good footy/cricket consipiracy that just does not exist. I can tell you that like most clubs we work with each other - strong footy helps strong cricket and vis versa but we dont make decisions like going to turf just to get them up the SAAFL div ladder!

I never said the PDCA was extinct, far from it, in fact I went so far as to clarify that point. But the SCA is and they have been losing clubs for years. Hallett Cove went to Adelaide Suburban last year - just one more in a line of clubs over the past 20 years leaving a once proud comp crippled.

We have no intention of trying to wreck the PDCA by stacking lower grade sides. Why would we want fringe turf players going back playing div5 PDCA?? that just does not make sense. We will have to see how that works out - no one can know how that is going to be sorted out yet - if the PDCA dont love us anymore maybe adelaide and suburban or churches will have us

And finally, our long term viability IS a major factor - We are in an old area and dont have juniors. we are trying and have tried really hard to get them over the last five years but it just isnt happening. None of us old guys are getting any younger. I reckon the clubs north of elizabeth should be absolutely dominating this comp already by the simple fact that you have massive poulation advantages how many junior sides do craigmore and smithfield have?

[rockstar]

Wow, some massive assumptions there LM. I'm not here to be the spokesman for the club but you have come up with a good footy/cricket consipiracy that just does not exist. I can tell you that like most clubs we work with each other - strong footy helps strong cricket and vis versa but we dont make decisions like going to turf just to get them up the SAAFL div ladder!

I never said the PDCA was extinct, far from it, in fact I went so far as to clarify that point. But the SCA is and they have been losing clubs for years. Hallett Cove went to Adelaide Suburban last year - just one more in a line of clubs over the past 20 years leaving a once proud comp crippled.

We have no intention of trying to wreck the PDCA by stacking lower grade sides. Why would we want fringe turf players going back playing div5 PDCA?? that just does not make sense. We will have to see how that works out - no one can know how that is going to be sorted out yet - if the PDCA dont love us anymore maybe adelaide and suburban or churches will have us

And finally, our long term viability IS a major factor - We are in an old area and dont have juniors. we are trying and have tried really hard to get them over the last five years but it just isnt happening. None of us old guys are getting any younger. I reckon the clubs north of elizabeth should be absolutely dominating this comp already by the simple fact that you have massive poulation advantages how many junior sides do craigmore and smithfield have?

blah blah blah shut up your giving me a headache talking rubbish

[rockstar]

Footy and cricket are two very much seperate idetities LM - And I assure you that the decision to go to turf had nothing to do with footy.

Not much different though, both have massive hype around them that they fail to live up to ....
... in short they are a let down!

[catchit]

Wow, some massive assumptions there LM. I'm not here to be the spokesman for the club but you have come up with a good footy/cricket consipiracy that just does not exist. I can tell you that like most clubs we work with each other - strong footy helps strong cricket and vis versa but we dont make decisions like going to turf just to get them up the SAAFL div ladder!

I never said the PDCA was extinct, far from it, in fact I went so far as to clarify that point. But the SCA is and they have been losing clubs for years. Hallett Cove went to Adelaide Suburban last year - just one more in a line of clubs over the past 20 years leaving a once proud comp crippled.

We have no intention of trying to wreck the PDCA by stacking lower grade sides. Why would we want fringe turf players going back playing div5 PDCA?? that just does not make sense. We will have to see how that works out - no one can know how that is going to be sorted out yet - if the PDCA dont love us anymore maybe adelaide and suburban or churches will have us

And finally, our long term viability IS a major factor - We are in an old area and dont have juniors. we are trying and have tried really hard to get them over the last five years but it just isnt happening. None of us old guys are getting any younger. I reckon the clubs north of elizabeth should be absolutely dominating this comp already by the simple fact that you have massive poulation advantages how many junior sides do craigmore and smithfield have?

So by going to turf you are going to get juniors? Cause i really cant see the point in leaving a strong comp to play B2 and with sibb on his last legs you will stay in B grade untill another sibb comes along...

[Lightning McQueen]

Wow, some massive assumptions there LM. I'm not here to be the spokesman for the club but you have come up with a good footy/cricket consipiracy that just does not exist. I can tell you that like most clubs we work with each other - strong footy helps strong cricket and vis versa but we dont make decisions like going to turf just to get them up the SAAFL div ladder!

I never said the PDCA was extinct, far from it, in fact I went so far as to clarify that point. But the SCA is and they have been losing clubs for years. Hallett Cove went to Adelaide Suburban last year - just one more in a line of clubs over the past 20 years leaving a once proud comp crippled.
We have no intention of trying to wreck the PDCA by stacking lower grade sides. Why would we want fringe turf players going back playing div5 PDCA?? that just does not make sense. We will have to see how that works out - no one can know how that is going to be sorted out yet - if the PDCA dont love us anymore maybe adelaide and suburban or churches will have us

To win and to offer players a game still when they've been washed out.

And finally, our long term viability IS a major factor - We are in an old area and dont have juniors. we are trying and have tried really hard to get them over the last five years but it just isnt happening. None of us old guys are getting any younger. I reckon the clubs north of elizabeth should be absolutely dominating this comp already by the simple fact that you have massive poulation advantages how many junior sides do craigmore and smithfield have?

Well the PDCA offers more avenues for juniors than the ATCA, not only that, look at the travel factor for the juniors that would be incorporated with joining ATCA. We only have 2 junior sides this season, that's our fault though, Craigmore have a lot more due to the fact they have more people putting their hands up to look after juniors.
We don't have population advantages over you, we have to compete with Craigmore, Eastern Park, ATCO, Angle Vale, Riverside and Penfield who are all within a 5km radius.

[bothamsfearnley]

Totally agree there are positives and negatives on both sides and its not been an easy decision. I personally had some reservations about going in this direction but we all care about the club and whats in its best interests.

This is the decision the Committe has made and we are working hard to make it a success.

Only time will tell I suppose.

from some of the comments on here it certainly sounds like we won't have any pdca cricketers from other clubs wanting to join us next year to try their luck on the clay......

[Lightning McQueen]

Totally agree there are positives and negatives on both sides and its not been an easy decision. I personally had some reservations about going in this direction but we all care about the club and whats in its best interests.

This is the decision the Committe has made and we are working hard to make it a success.

Only time will tell I suppose.

from some of the comments on here it certainly sounds like we won't have any pdca cricketers from other clubs wanting to join us next year to try their luck on the clay......

The way things have been this season so far it wouldn't be a great advertisement, one week on, one week off.

[bothamsfearnley]

Totally agree there are positives and negatives on both sides and its not been an easy decision. I personally had some reservations about going in this direction but we all care about the club and whats in its best interests.

This is the decision the Committe has made and we are working hard to make it a success.

Only time will tell I suppose.

from some of the comments on here it certainly sounds like we won't have any pdca cricketers from other clubs wanting to join us next year to try their luck on the clay......

The way things have been this season so far it wouldn't be a great advertisement, one week on, one week off.

thats very true. I know one guy out at lower grade district who has only played a couple of weeks.

[rockstar]

[quote="bothamsfearnley"]
sooooo.... just so i get this right.. you think by jumping assoc and playing mid to low divs in a move clearly designed for your seniors and senior success, you think you will gain and grow juniors?

You whinge about only having two juniors sides yet really you havent come up with any solutions to fix it except jump to ATCA

I think BL just talk rubbish

[Executive Member]

Footy and cricket are two very much seperate idetities LM - And I assure you that the decision to go to turf had nothing to do with footy.

Not much different though, both have massive hype around them that they fail to live up to ....
... in short they are a let down!

you seem to be well in the know there Star

[Phantom Gossiper]

If i was BL id be more worried about chasing nearly 300 Sat rather than next season

[bothamsfearnley]

sooooo.... just so i get this right.. you think by jumping assoc and playing mid to low divs in a move clearly designed for your seniors and senior success, you think you will gain and grow juniors?

You whinge about only having two juniors sides yet really you havent come up with any solutions to fix it except jump to ATCA

I think BL just talk rubbish

No. Its not about juniors.