Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Executive Member » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:38 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
custardarm wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:"(2) At the instant of delivery there shall not be more than five Fielders on the leg side."


WTF ? Can you get out first ball still ?


i always thought the standard rule was no more than 6 on the leg side and that that applied to all levels of cricket , as i found out as an U/16 captain and later in a grade district but 5 seems a bit to far surely we can allow 6 on legs so as to encourage some offside play , its not like everyone in pdca hits to cow corner , just the majority :lol:


Well I can go home now, I've learnt something for the day :shock: .


yep not sure about only so many on the leg side rule - would need to see it before I believe it - perhaps custard you had a couple of umpires who thought it should be a rule :roll:
as far as I am aware the only fielding restriction is no more than two behind square leg
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby custardarm » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:40 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
custardarm wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:"(2) At the instant of delivery there shall not be more than five Fielders on the leg side."


WTF ? Can you get out first ball still ?


i always thought the standard rule was no more than 6 on the leg side and that that applied to all levels of cricket , as i found out as an U/16 captain and later in a grade district but 5 seems a bit to far surely we can allow 6 on legs so as to encourage some offside play , its not like everyone in pdca hits to cow corner , just the majority :lol:


Well I can go home now, I've learnt something for the day :shock: .


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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:46 pm

custardarm wrote:
sarcasm meter through the roof lightning :lol:


Not at all Vanilla, I never knew that one and I wouldn't doubt your knowledge.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Masha » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:49 pm

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catchit wrote:Here is a stat i like... Its very hard to chase down 290.... stats would prob prove that ;)


That's not a stat :roll:

Here's a stat...in the last 4 victories that the Lodge have had over R & C, Sibbick has scored 296 runs at an average of 148 with 4 50's (98, 88 n.o, 52 and 58 n.o). In the 2 losses last year, he got 0 and 26.

I think the boys will go ok on Sat, if they get through the first 15-20 in good shape they'll bring home the choccies.


I didnt see the 0 and 26 on the end there where jim def wasnt bowling to him, so it will def come down to sibb V R&C but again my money is on sibb caught behind for under 30.. Also i am sure all brahmas wins would include sibb doing something, so i guess my point is brahma wont win....


Maybe in the past it would have been Sibbick vs R &C, but not so these days. Saying that, the recruits are yet to fire so hoping this is the game. I will agree that it will be how the lads handle Jimmy (hence why I said the first 15-20 will be crucial), but can't under-estimate Russ bowling stump to stump from the other end. Very smart bowler.

I think if Groover gets going anything is possible. Most of the lads are very capable with the bat, the batting list runs deep so they will be confident no matter the situation.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Executive Member » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:57 pm

from the Lord's website
Laws of the game

Rule 41

5. Limitation of on side fielders
At the instant of the bowler’s delivery there shall not be more than two fielders, other than the wicket-keeper, behind the popping crease on the on side. A fielder will be considered to be behind the popping crease unless the whole of his person whether grounded or in the air is in front of this line.
In the event of infringement of this Law by any fielder, the striker’s end umpire shall call and signal No ball.

So Custard your umpire was full of you know what
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Plumb » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:59 pm

Masha wrote:
catchit wrote:
Masha wrote:
catchit wrote:Here is a stat i like... Its very hard to chase down 290.... stats would prob prove that ;)


That's not a stat :roll:

Here's a stat...in the last 4 victories that the Lodge have had over R & C, Sibbick has scored 296 runs at an average of 148 with 4 50's (98, 88 n.o, 52 and 58 n.o). In the 2 losses last year, he got 0 and 26.

I think the boys will go ok on Sat, if they get through the first 15-20 in good shape they'll bring home the choccies.


I didnt see the 0 and 26 on the end there where jim def wasnt bowling to him, so it will def come down to sibb V R&C but again my money is on sibb caught behind for under 30.. Also i am sure all brahmas wins would include sibb doing something, so i guess my point is brahma wont win....


Maybe in the past it would have been Sibbick vs R &C, but not so these days. Saying that, the recruits are yet to fire so hoping this is the game. I will agree that it will be how the lads handle Jimmy (hence why I said the first 15-20 will be crucial), but can't under-estimate Russ bowling stump to stump from the other end. Very smart bowler.

I think if Groover gets going anything is possible. Most of the lads are very capable with the bat, the batting list runs deep so they will be confident no matter the situation.


When is Brenton Marshall making an appearance for the Lodge? A quality bat, he will add some depth to the line up.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby catchit » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:18 pm

Sibb will be the key, he knows jim goes alright against him, maybe honda could put up the stats for the last 8inn against jim? Remembering you can only bowl 8 overs in a one dayer.. I can think of 4 times out of that 8inn he has got him..
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby custardarm » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:02 pm

Executive Member wrote:from the Lord's website
Laws of the game

Rule 41

5. Limitation of on side fielders
At the instant of the bowler’s delivery there shall not be more than two fielders, other than the wicket-keeper, behind the popping crease on the on side. A fielder will be considered to be behind the popping crease unless the whole of his person whether grounded or in the air is in front of this line.
In the event of infringement of this Law by any fielder, the striker’s end umpire shall call and signal No ball.

So Custard your umpire was full of you know what


it happened in an a grade district game i played where a left arm off spinner bowled at legs and had 2 on off side and 7 on leg ,btw captain was G.Manou so he was unaware aswell, and the umpire called no ball !!!
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby custardarm » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:09 pm

but associations can impose their own laws , as both my incidents were in saca comps , perhaps it was a saca by law
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:23 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:"(2) At the instant of delivery there shall not be more than five Fielders on the leg side."


WTF ? Can you get out first ball still ?


Why would you need more than 5 on the leg side!?! Surely your bowlers can bowl outside the off peg, and if they stray straight then a backward square leg and wide-ish mid on should be sufficient. Surely you would rather be aggresive and see some bloke hitting across the line than protecting/saving runs?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Masha » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:13 pm

Plumb wrote:
When is Brenton Marshall making an appearance for the Lodge? A quality bat, he will add some depth to the line up.


Plumb-bob, leave the comedy to the professionals.

The only things he will add to is the average age and weight.

Speaking of quality, you going to come across to the Lodge when we debut on turf next year? You go ok for a Chris Harris clone.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:15 pm

Masha wrote:Speaking of quality, you going to come across to the Lodge when we debut on turf next year? You go ok for a Chris Harris clone.


Serious question, have BL looked at or started identifying players they want to recruit next season for their turf debut?
Any idea at this stage what grade you will enter into?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Wizard of Oz » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:18 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:"(2) At the instant of delivery there shall not be more than five Fielders on the leg side."


WTF ? Can you get out first ball still ?


Why would you need more than 5 on the leg side!?! Surely your bowlers can bowl outside the off peg, and if they stray straight then a backward square leg and wide-ish mid on should be sufficient. Surely you would rather be aggresive and see some bloke hitting across the line than protecting/saving runs?


Absolutely correct. Why have that rule then ?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:20 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:Absolutely correct. Why have that rule then ?


No idea, i always knew about the 3 behind square on the leg side, but even that just sounds stupid.

Perhaps the rule is there to stop negative bowling i.e down legside etc? But then having said that, if its a one day game then it would be wide anyway :? Dont know, the more i think the more confused i get :lol:
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Wizard of Oz » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:21 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Masha wrote:Speaking of quality, you going to come across to the Lodge when we debut on turf next year? You go ok for a Chris Harris clone.


Serious question, have BL looked at or started identifying players they want to recruit next season for their turf debut?
Any idea at this stage what grade you will enter into?


When Reynella joined, they started in A3... Either that or B1 would be about right....but I'd say A3.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:When Reynella joined, they started in A3... Either that or B1 would be about right....but I'd say A3.


Would BL look to drop the number of sides as well? Or would they have sides still compete in lower grades of PDCA do you think?

Also the difference between Reynella & BL IMO is Reynella were making light work of a majority of the competition in SCA, and blokes like Richard Gabb are just freaks :shock: !
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Wizard of Oz » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:38 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:When Reynella joined, they started in A3... Either that or B1 would be about right....but I'd say A3.


Would BL look to drop the number of sides as well? Or would they have sides still compete in lower grades of PDCA do you think?

Also the difference between Reynella & BL IMO is Reynella were making light work of a majority of the competition in SCA, and blokes like Richard Gabb are just freaks :shock: !


Agreed... They also used their Southern Districts connection to recruit heavily too. John Hopkins is an absolute superstar. They also picked up Toby Viney this year. Gabby certainly was a gun.

On second thoughts, A3 might be pushing it.

Surely they move their whole club to ATCA ?
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bothamsfearnley » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:26 pm

Wizard of Oz wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Wizard of Oz wrote:When Reynella joined, they started in A3... Either that or B1 would be about right....but I'd say A3.


Would BL look to drop the number of sides as well? Or would they have sides still compete in lower grades of PDCA do you think?

Also the difference between Reynella & BL IMO is Reynella were making light work of a majority of the competition in SCA, and blokes like Richard Gabb are just freaks :shock: !


Agreed... They also used their Southern Districts connection to recruit heavily too. John Hopkins is an absolute superstar. They also picked up Toby Viney this year. Gabby certainly was a gun.

On second thoughts, A3 might be pushing it.


Surely they move their whole club to ATCA ?



I dont think it matters where the club starts. Thats for ATCA to decide.

I think we will continue to have a presence in the PDCA - as Reynella did in SCA. We are not about to move on all the quality people we have at our club purely on the basis of what they offer on the field.

Reynella where always a strong club in the SCA in my time, but I think more importantly they saw that that competition has been in decline for a decade and positioned themselves to be in the best situation for their club looking to the future. Much like Brahma Lodge are doing now.

I dont mean the PDCA is in decline, I just mean that we have made decisions that we believe will ensure the long term viability of our club.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:47 am

bothamsfearnley wrote:I dont think it matters where the club starts. Thats for ATCA to decide.

I think we will continue to have a presence in the PDCA - as Reynella did in SCA. We are not about to move on all the quality people we have at our club purely on the basis of what they offer on the field.

Reynella where always a strong club in the SCA in my time, but I think more importantly they saw that that competition has been in decline for a decade and positioned themselves to be in the best situation for their club looking to the future. Much like Brahma Lodge are doing now.

I dont mean the PDCA is in decline, I just mean that we have made decisions that we believe will ensure the long term viability of our club.


:shock: wow massive save! I was just about to right royal rip into you lol, as far as im concerned you cannot compare SCA with PDCA!
Add into the fact that what have reynella got to compete with compared to BL?

BL have TTG, ND in terms of district sides, then you have pooraka, ingle farm, para hills in turf sides. Compared to Reynella which had nothing to compete with, only to gain from players who couldnt cut it at the stingrays!
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:51 am

Also i would rate PDCA the strongest of the hard wicket comps, and im sure if you selected the best XI they would be more than competitive on a turf deck...

Ozolins
Stamatovich
McCarthy
Davies
Carmen
Cree
Hanson
Hannun
Morris
Fantansia
Parkhouse
Picton

oh wait on im pretty sure most of those have played on turf before! :shock:
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