APPS

[sprinttospace]

clubs will have to recruit mensa dropouts to manage this..

i've got an excel guru here working on it. lots of if then elses involved.

[aceman]

Had this not gone through, I wonder why the CFB didn't think about putting a higher points bounty on the SAAFL and other non compliant leagues players of e.g. 10 points per player?
That would have had a bigger impact surely, stop them in their tracks.

[TheAussieBogan]

If an A Grade side is over 15 points for a game, I believe they lose that particular game and I would assume a fine as well.

If div 4 -7 players remain at 1 point, It's not going to be too bad, but if they increase that I can see some clubs having some issues.

I agree with the punishment, I was afraid it was gonna be some piss weak slap on the wrist.

[Jimmy_041]

Had this not gone through, I wonder why the CFB didn't think about putting a higher points bounty on the SAAFL and other non compliant leagues players of e.g. 10 points per player?
That would have had a bigger impact surely, stop them in their tracks.

You might want to think that one through again....

[zedman]

clubs will have to recruit mensa dropouts to manage this..

i've got an excel guru here working on it. lots of if then elses involved.

yeah i hear ya..funtimes..for example sprint..if parish came back this year is he a 3 pointer coming from a div 2 club..or was he a blackfriars scholar and even if he was is he still a 3 pointer?

[sprinttospace]

clubs will have to recruit mensa dropouts to manage this..

i've got an excel guru here working on it. lots of if then elses involved.

yeah i hear ya..funtimes..for example sprint..if parish came back this year is he a 3 pointer coming from a div 2 club..or was he a blackfriars scholar and even if he was is he still a 3 pointer?

his clearance paperwork in 2011 will reflect him as an old scholar who played more than 25 games with us and is returning to us therefore zero points.

[X Runna]

This is the simple structure as written to the clubs by the President.

5.pts AFL player previous year.
4 pts SANFL player previous year
3 pts Cat1 Country Metro Leagues
2 pts Cat 2 Country Metro leagues
1 pt.SAAFL player
*note deduct 1 pt from the above for each year a player has stood out of football.
0 pts a player returning to his junior club/school. Son of a life member going to his fathers club. A player who hasn't played competition football for more
than 2 years
-1pt An under 18year old player playing in the A grade
Please note the points value only applies to an A grade player from the previuos year not a B grade player.
Any other variation on this can be applied for to the CFB or Saafl can apply its own variation for use within the League

The very bottom line says it pretty well. The league will have the right to award clubs additional points if their circumstances are valid. Mawson Lakes WILL be able to use St Paul's, Gino said a name change does not mean a thing. Adelaide Lutheran will be granted the college concessions....it goes on. There were a LOT of questions asked and answered at the delegates meeting on Monday, those who were there were given a pretty clear picture by the end of the night, and had been emailed heaps of documents on it.

Please people, rather than guess and make incorrect assumptions which just grow the more manure it is fed - speak to your delegate, or at least get a copy of the documents. You won't feel as negative or unsure about it when you know more.

[curlyhead]

Just got an email from the Footy Budget, as did many - which says that because of all the confusion, Gino is aware of the mess, people having limited idea as to what is going on and this blog and he has asked that you either email or Ring him direct. Cant ask more than that and that should clear up everyone's mind as what is correct and incorrect. END OF STORY Just ring Gino and he will fill you in by the sounds and then everyone will be happy or at least know WTF is going on. Says to email him at gcappa@bigpond.com

[sprinttospace]

im confused XR.

i was at the meeting and i have the document and it states that a player from a cateogry 1 league is worth 3 points and 'saafl div 1 2 3' are listed as a category 1 league and that a player from a category 2 league is worth 2 points and 'saafl - others' are in included in the list of category 1 leagues. i don't see anything in the document that says saafl players are 1 point. this is the document that was on the website link and notice for the meeting on monday night.

the rest of your previous quoted info corresponds with the document i have.

[turk186]

I still feel that one of the biggest issues is protection and retention of juniors that a club spends time and money on..I have no issue with the APPS as such but I do not believe that it is the saviour of Aussie rules as it appears to be being sold as..I am from a club that is in the very early stages of junior development but I know the direction that as a coach/football director/scout I would be heading and that is too entice "older" juniors because they come at a zero points value..they effectively have a massive target on them now for clubs with a few dollars to spare..

and XR I was there and did not accept the response from the CFB aka SAAFL prez when he stated the were "working on it"...the document is riddled with holes that clever administators will drive trucks through... clubs and indeed the CFB do not have a document that is complete and as such how can we be asked to endorse it's acceptance

[Jimmy_041]

im confused XR.

i was at the meeting and i have the document and it states that a player from a cateogry 1 league is worth 3 points and 'saafl div 1 2 3' are listed as a category 1 league and that a player from a category 2 league is worth 2 points and 'saafl - others' are in included in the list of category 1 leagues. i don't see anything in the document that says saafl players are 1 point. this is the document that was on the website link and notice for the meeting on monday night.

the rest of your previous quoted info corresponds with the document i have.

Internal transfers are only 1 point - if they transfer out of SAAFL, the higher points apply to them

[turk186]

Jimmy I cant find the bit about internal transfers and 1 point in the blurb that was handed out Monday night? Is that in a document with more info on the CFB/SAAFL website

[Jimmy_041]

correct - its not in there

Its a SAAFL decision that will need to get the OK from the General Committee so not set in stone yet

Ive watched the discussion on here about the 1 point for everyone

Im not sure which is best

If you have higher points for Div 1-3 players, it will make the good players in lower sides at 1 point a bigger target

At an equal 1 point for everyone and no salary cap, someone in Div 6 could buy 15 Div 1 players each at $2k per game to get a premiership

Its a 2 edge sword that will generate plenty of debate

[turk186]

Gee what a surprise...and we voted this half ar$ed system in(in principle) .....ladies and gentleman we have created a monster that we have no idea how or if we can control

[scottroo]

son of a life member going to his fathers club? at Colonel Light Gardens Football Club we don't discriminate on sex and actually have quite a few FEMALE life members, are there sons not eligible to be zero point players?

[turk186]

cmon scotts...dont make it harder than it is..this is a well thought out well planned and well introduced piece of documentation that will save SAAFL

[jake the snake]

this plan will ruin the saafl, surely they needed to pass this before the end of last season, before clubs start recruiting players, clubs like flinders park honestly wont be able to fit all their recruits in the one team

[Footy Smart]

The document is pretty self explanitory to me. Im pretty sure all the petty scenarios that are being thought up will be accomodated/explained by the SAAFL.

X Runna has summed it up perfectly!

Just accept it (play on)

[Clever Dick]

Just reading what is being put forward, I've come to the conclusion turk's not in favour of it!

[sprinttospace]

correct - its not in there
Its a SAAFL decision that will need to get the OK from the General Committee so not set in stone yet

Ive watched the discussion on here about the 1 point for everyone

Im not sure which is best

If you have higher points for Div 1-3 players, it will make the good players in lower sides at 1 point a bigger target

At an equal 1 point for everyone and no salary cap, someone in Div 6 could buy 15 Div 1 players each at $2k per game to get a premiership

Its a 2 edge sword that will generate plenty of debate

i was sure i was reading the right document.
it'll all come out in the wash i'm sure but the technicality of internal transfers will be important