Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

[Booney]

The last thing we need is to fight amongst ourselves lynwood, but surely if the proposed model aids the long term future of the Magpies then it surely must interest all Port fans, be them Magpie/Power or like me, both?

[Royal City]

The last thing we need is to fight amongst ourselves lynwood, but surely if the proposed model aids the long term future of the Magpies then it surely must interest all Port fans, be them Magpie/Power or like me, both?

you've been fighting amongst yourselves for years just ask mr Richardson and hutton. Let me guess you want that history re-written aswell.

[Jase]

No doubt I have missed the answer to my question, but if the merger is to go ahead, but crowds don't improve and things continue to go pear shaped, what would be the next step along the way?

Would it be that one of the Maggies or Power would have to be put out of their misery?

Serious questions, just trying to get my head around it all...

[Lynwood]

The last thing we need is to fight amongst ourselves lynwood, but surely if the proposed model aids the long term future of the Magpies then it surely must interest all Port fans, be them Magpie/Power or like me, both?

Speaking of the long term future of the Magpies I can only ask how many Members will be left? how many will still turn up. Everyone I know who goes to every game has already said they will no longer support the club in any way. The club needs to look at the number of supporters they will have in the SANFL turning up to games. The main issue I have is with having no Social base again for Magpie fans. Yes the Port Club and POW will be there but spending money their will be helping the Power as well so of course it alienates supporters like myself as we can not do what other SANFL do and go to a clubroom and give 100% of our money to my club.

Yes if we don't merge it will be hard for the club but when we finally get back to the top it will be well worth it and we will look back and say we had to fight hard to get here. A merger will take that experience away from us.

[Lynwood]

No doubt I have missed the answer to my question, but if the merger is to go ahead, but crowds don't improve and things continue to go pear shaped, what would be the next step along the way?

Would it be that one of the Maggies or Power would have to be put out of their misery?

Serious questions, just trying to get my head around it all...

That is my whole point with either of the clubs doing market research to prove this. All I hjave heard is both Power and Magpie only fans saying they will no longer support their clubs.

then again as Duncanson said at the magpies AGM if the POW was not included they would not be considering it. this has nothing to do with supporters but rather it is pokies.

[once_were_warriors]

The question is , do the majority of the Magpie supporters want this? I have a feeling it isn't that clean cut.

Do magpie members need to ratify the proposal by vote?

If it gets through, is it only the admin they gets shared?

Do they run as two clubs in regard to finances, if not what is the proposal of distribution of funds?

The POWales and more importantly the pokie license will be controlled by the one admin I take it ,again what will be the split on this?

Sponsorship , seperate for both identities or same for one club?

SANFL distributions go only to Magpies or to the One Club?

A legal minefield this will become.

Personally ,If it can shore up the magpies but they maintain their independence I wouldn't have as great a problem with the proposal.

If it is purely a take over by an AFL club ( which I think is the ultimate objective) then it should not be allowed.

After 13 years of the Power , if Magpie supporters haven't crossed now , they never will.

A concern for me on top of this is then the Crows wanting a piece of the action and a side in the SANFL.

This will make the SANFL competition become 2nd rate.






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[sjt]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

From the one PAFC letter
Port AFL and Non Port SANFL supporters will not be disadvantaged and they can still support Port in the AFL and their own SANFL Club.

But nothing directed at non Power fans being disadvantaged.

they will get their one community by screwing the SANFL fans that turn up each week to watch the Magpies. The Curtain Raisers will be to hide the fact that people would still complain about having two games to go to and when fans like me leave to hide the lower crowds at Alberton.

I think you need to leave the paranoia to the NON Port fans Lynwood. Fact is, Port Adelaide needs to concentrate on the MAJORITY of its' core supporters (the low hanging fruit) and attracting the disenfranchised back into the fold. I'm certain they'll work a pricing structure to allow people like you and opposition supporters who don't want to watch the Power into Footy Park, just like they intended for Bay supporters at the 140 year celebrations.

I also reckon you won't be complaining when they schedule a Magpie match prior to a Saints game?

How is it Paranoia saying that they have not said how Magpie fans will be affected because they haven't. and as for attracting more supporters the Magpies have enough just look at the crowds since 97. So we do not need this, the only reason this is needed is to help the Power and if the POW was not leased by the Magpies this would not be considered. Also show me the research that says this will help boost crowds for the Power?. The only thing that will come is from Magpies fans who have already stated they will no longer follow the club becasue they will not give the power money to support the Magpies. it has nothing to do with pricing but rather where our money goes for supporting our club.

Agreed, this revolves around the pokies license. Inexplicable how it will boost crowds. Anyone got an answer to how it will increase supporter numbers? The major way to increase supporters is on field success, game style, and "iconic" players, this applies to all clubs.

[Psyber]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

I was wondering whether they may stir up the latent hostility enough to lose some of those fans currently following both Port clubs.
Especially, if this deal shafts the Magpies yet again over things the pokie money distribution.

[Lynwood]

They may not lose many but there will be those who go to both games no who will simply only go to power games as they are already supporting one club by just going to power games each week.

[Macca19]

I dont understand why would someone who currently goes to both Port games a weekend now stop going because the two clubs join up?

That makes no sense to me at all.

[sjt]

Or why will someone that goes to the Power games, now go to the Magpies, or why would someone that goes to the magpies now go to the Power, just because both clubs become joined?

[Lynwood]

I dont understand why would someone who currently goes to both Port games a weekend now stop going because the two clubs join up?

That makes no sense to me at all.

Simple now they are supporting two clubs but if this goes ahead they will support one. they would still turn up to the odd game but not almost all as they do now. I did not get it either but this is what some people have said. Other reasons are theri freinds will no longer goto the Magpies so less reason for them to turn up.

[Lynwood]

Or why will someone that goes to the Power games, now go to the Magpies, or why would someone that goes to the magpies now go to the Power, just because both clubs become joined?

Becasue the club say that is what is going to happen so we must beleive it.

[hereselmo1]

Or why will someone that goes to the Power games, now go to the Magpies, or why would someone that goes to the magpies now go to the Power, just because both clubs become joined?

The fact that the Maggies would be playing a curtain raisers to the Power would be a good start. I attend all Power games but find it hard to get to many Maggies games because of family and other committments (probably only 2-3 a year).

I would definitely get there early to watch the Maggies as a curtain raiser though!

[sjt]

Or why will someone that goes to the Power games, now go to the Magpies, or why would someone that goes to the magpies now go to the Power, just because both clubs become joined?

The fact that the Maggies would be playing a curtain raisers to the Power would be a good start. I attend all Power games but find it hard to get to many Maggies games because of family and other committments (probably only 2-3 a year).

I would definitely get there early to watch the Maggies as a curtain raiser though!

So given you as an example. The Power are retaining a current supporter and the Magpies are having someone "extra" potentially watching their game. Not sure how that improves the finances, other than if you were to spend more on food and drink during the curtain raiser. Would you pay more to see the Power if you had the Magpies game added in?
Maybe they'll have a level of membership that includes both games. If you're not a Magpies/Power member combined, you can't get in until the curtain raisers almost finished??

[hereselmo1]

Yeah I would happily pay more to see both games.

[Mr Irate]

I wouldn't and won't.

Trust my club will avoid just becoming "pre match entertainment"....... .

[Apachebulldog]

If the merger goes ahead why should SANFL sides play in a curtain raiser against the Magpies for the Power ???
I bet most supporters of the other 9 SANFL will not be attending, who wants to put up with 25,000 feral supporters, plus with all the one sided support imagine the advantage they will have at curtain raisers

[Apachebulldog]

Theres some great comments on the AdelaideNow/Advertiser site in the local footy section under the heading Port merger a fait acompli, the hatred is still out there.

[sound4]

At the end of the day, doesn't this merger mean the Magpies will definitely stay afloat for another x amount of years (and thus retaining the status quo now enjoyed in the SANFL) and providing a good capital raising avenue for the power (thus not having to get payouts from the SANFL/AFL)?

Sounds like a win-win for both clubs and for the SANFL as a whole.