Magpies and Power merger to be announced in a fortnight.

[Barto]

I'm not too worried about the Magpies becoming a super club at all, they've still got to get blokes to play for them and develop their zone etc. I just cant see how it's going to make their AFL arm more profitable and that's a concern for everyone in football.

[csbowes]

If the PAM have put forward a proposal that the other clubs support or find they cannot disagree with or vote against, then I'll happily voice my concerns or disagreement at the SFC AGM...

If that is not the case and the proposal is not in the best interests of the other 8 clubs and hence they are against it, then my concern is how can such a move go ahead with no support?

That would make a mockery of the whole league system.

[on the rails]

If the PAM have put forward a proposal that the other clubs support or find they cannot disagree with or vote against, then I'll happily voice my concerns or disagreement at the SFC AGM...

If that is not the case and the proposal is not in the best interests of the other 8 clubs and hence they are against it, then my concern is how can such a move go ahead with no support?

That would make a mockery of the whole league system.

My "mail" is that the 8 other SANFL clubs will as they did in Feb reject the merger proposal outright however they have been told by the SANFL that the Commission can and will most likely not take their concerns or vote into account and will push it through because of AFL pressure regardless of Whickers statement denying that in the 'tiser today.

I have also been told that if the Commission goes against the wishes of the SANFL clubs then there will be a significant push to change the Constitution of the SANFL and give the clubs the power to determine what is and is not good for their comp.

All North have done is highlight the issues surrounding this "merger" as they see it and seek to keep an even playing field. North's stance would have been the same if it was another SANFL club seeking a merger.

[Booney]

"The chilling memory of 2003 was how little our Club’s rich heritage meant to the football world and the media outside our own people. There was no concerted support, in fact a quick look over our shoulder at the time only showed those with a red and white bent. Our history would have perished without a whimper or barely a mention in the classified columns of the local paper."

"It is ironic that the Port Adelaide machine rode off into the sunset in pursuit of the big League with the granting of the AFL Licence to the distain of the remaining SANFL Clubs. It is a strange twist of fate that they now return seeking the support of those whose future they danced on – it is indeed a long road which does not turn!"

Could this football club have a bigger chip on their shoulder?

"It is our considered opinion that the One Port Adelaide Model will be approved with or without unanimous SANFL Club support. If a Risk Analysis report projected an expected financial benefit to football, the Directors would be duty bound to support it under the terms upon which they are appointed. One Port Adelaide, the Power and the Magpies will again emerge victorious, this time we trust with a degree of appreciation and humility. These are challenging times for standalone SANFL Clubs. Once the decision is taken, we accept same and move on."


This is the only sensible bit.

Is that really in the NAFC document? They must be joking. Why stoop to insults when this is a business decision?

No wonder North fans are dismayed if amatuer's that write the likes of that are running thier club.

[beenreal]

Someone at the NAFC must be very proud of their work because the article has been pulled down. But don't worry, I've saved the web-page and it's also been quoted on a multitude of other sites, so it won't be forgotten.

[Wedgie]

Booney, you'll notice that part wasn't in double quotes. It was a Port supporter that added that as their observation.

PS The word is amateurs, no apostrophe required in that context too.

[Barto]

Booney, you'll notice that part wasn't in double quotes. It was a Port supporter that added that as their observation.

PS The word is amateurs, no apostrophe required in that context too.

Knowing the way Port dont have a problem with editing their own history to suit, there'll be an embellished version of the North document going around soon enough being quoted as fact.

[Booney]

Booney, you'll notice that part wasn't in double quotes. It was a Port supporter that added that as their observation.

PS The word is amateurs, no apostrophe required in that context too.

Probably a reflection of how interested I am in the document as I didn't read it all that closely.

( Did I use correct punctuation here? FFS Going to be busy if you're plan is to correct people and thier grammar on here )

[Wedgie]

Sorry mate, just thought if you were going to falsely accuse someone of something and then call them amateurs you might want to learn how to spell it correctly before admitting you stuffed up and apologise. The irony!

[beenreal]

Booney, you'll notice that part wasn't in double quotes. It was a Port supporter that added that as their observation.

PS The word is amateurs, no apostrophe required in that context too.

Knowing the way Port dont have a problem with editing their own history to suit, there'll be an embellished version of the North document going around soon enough being quoted as fact.

I don't think it's POSSIBLE to embellish that document!

[Booney]

Sorry mate, just thought if you were going to falsely accuse someone of something and then call them amateurs you might want to learn how to spell it correctly before admitting you stuffed up and apologise. The irony!

1 - I stuffed up? Seem to have, not the first and wont be the last, like all of us.

2 - I apologised? No I didn't.Why and who to?

3 - They're amateurs. Yes, still.

[Lynwood]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

From the one PAFC letter
Port AFL and Non Port SANFL supporters will not be disadvantaged and they can still support Port in the AFL and their own SANFL Club.

But nothing directed at non Power fans being disadvantaged.

they will get their one community by screwing the SANFL fans that turn up each week to watch the Magpies. The Curtain Raisers will be to hide the fact that people would still complain about having two games to go to and when fans like me leave to hide the lower crowds at Alberton.

[Apachebulldog]

At least the North Adelaide football club has the balls to come out and debate this issue where are the rest of the clubs comment on this, if they do merge i can see a further almighty rift in the PAFC with its supporters most really do not know who they are ie Power/Magpie supporters, Magpie supporters, AFL Power supporters ( non traditional PAMFC ) what an absolute mess its gonna be and could be the demise of this once proud mighty club who in 1990 wanted to join a better competition, however they have really failed miserably and been brought down to earth with the rest of us mere mortals, most of their supporters do not like losing and now are trying to get back into the winners circle by joining forces with their long lost brothers the Power which in the long run will create an unfair advantage over the rest of the SANFL sides. I have said all along they should of folded up in 1997 so they can all go and chase that impossible dream of winning flags in the AFL. I can see the SANFL giving the merger the nod because it now has become the TOADY for the AFL.

[beenreal]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

From the one PAFC letter
Port AFL and Non Port SANFL supporters will not be disadvantaged and they can still support Port in the AFL and their own SANFL Club.

But nothing directed at non Power fans being disadvantaged.

they will get their one community by screwing the SANFL fans that turn up each week to watch the Magpies. The Curtain Raisers will be to hide the fact that people would still complain about having two games to go to and when fans like me leave to hide the lower crowds at Alberton.

I think you need to leave the paranoia to the NON Port fans Lynwood. Fact is, Port Adelaide needs to concentrate on the MAJORITY of its' core supporters (the low hanging fruit) and attracting the disenfranchised back into the fold. I'm certain they'll work a pricing structure to allow people like you and opposition supporters who don't want to watch the Power into Footy Park, just like they intended for Bay supporters at the 140 year celebrations.

I also reckon you won't be complaining when they schedule a Magpie match prior to a Saints game?

[beenreal]

At least the North Adelaide football club has the balls to come out and debate this issue where are the rest of the clubs comment on this, if they do merge i can see a further almighty rift in the PAFC with its supporters most really do not know who they are ie Power/Magpie supporters, Magpie supporters, AFL Power supporters ( non traditional PAMFC ) what an absolute mess its gonna be and could be the demise of this once proud mighty club who in 1990 wanted to join a better competition, however they have really failed miserably and been brought down to earth with the rest of us mere mortals, most of their supporters do not like losing and now are trying to get back into the winners circle by joining forces with their long lost brothers the Power which in the long run will create an unfair advantage over the rest of the SANFL sides. I have said all along they should of folded up in 1997 so they can all go and chase that impossible dream of winning flags in the AFL. I can see the SANFL giving the merger the nod because it now has become the TOADY for the AFL.

This is no debate. A debate is where you listen to the position offered by your opponent and offer an appropriate rebuttal. Pretty sure no-one has ever won a debate by clamping their hands over their ears and yelling LA, LA, LA, LA, LA,....

North Adelaide's position is nothing but a MAS-debate.

[Apachebulldog]

I will re phrase it they have the balls to come out and make comment woo hoo !!

[Booney]

At least the North Adelaide football club has the balls to come out and debate this issue where are the rest of the clubs comment on this, if they do merge i can see a further almighty rift in the PAFC with its supporters most really do not know who they are ie Power/Magpie supporters, Magpie supporters, AFL Power supporters ( non traditional PAMFC ) what an absolute mess its gonna be and could be the demise of this once proud mighty club who in 1990 wanted to join a better competition, however they have really failed miserably and been brought down to earth with the rest of us mere mortals, most of their supporters do not like losing and now are trying to get back into the winners circle by joining forces with their long lost brothers the Power which in the long run will create an unfair advantage over the rest of the SANFL sides. I have said all along they should of folded up in 1997 so they can all go and chase that impossible dream of winning flags in the AFL. I can see the SANFL giving the merger the nod because it now has become the TOADY for the AFL.

Impossible?

[Apachebulldog]

Well it can be Booney ya need zillions of dollars to keep a team on the field.

[Lynwood]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

From the one PAFC letter
Port AFL and Non Port SANFL supporters will not be disadvantaged and they can still support Port in the AFL and their own SANFL Club.

But nothing directed at non Power fans being disadvantaged.

they will get their one community by screwing the SANFL fans that turn up each week to watch the Magpies. The Curtain Raisers will be to hide the fact that people would still complain about having two games to go to and when fans like me leave to hide the lower crowds at Alberton.

I think you need to leave the paranoia to the NON Port fans Lynwood. Fact is, Port Adelaide needs to concentrate on the MAJORITY of its' core supporters (the low hanging fruit) and attracting the disenfranchised back into the fold. I'm certain they'll work a pricing structure to allow people like you and opposition supporters who don't want to watch the Power into Footy Park, just like they intended for Bay supporters at the 140 year celebrations.

I also reckon you won't be complaining when they schedule a Magpie match prior to a Saints game?

How is it Paranoia saying that they have not said how Magpie fans will be affected because they haven't. and as for attracting more supporters the Magpies have enough just look at the crowds since 97. So we do not need this, the only reason this is needed is to help the Power and if the POW was not leased by the Magpies this would not be considered. Also show me the research that says this will help boost crowds for the Power?. The only thing that will come is from Magpies fans who have already stated they will no longer follow the club becasue they will not give the power money to support the Magpies. it has nothing to do with pricing but rather where our money goes for supporting our club.

[Royal City]

Interestingly, the Port Adelaide clubs may actually succeed in killing each other off with this strategy, by stirring up the hostility between traditional Magpies supporters and the new Power breed.

There wont be any simply because the club no longer needs the Magpie only fans.

From the one PAFC letter
Port AFL and Non Port SANFL supporters will not be disadvantaged and they can still support Port in the AFL and their own SANFL Club.

But nothing directed at non Power fans being disadvantaged.

they will get their one community by screwing the SANFL fans that turn up each week to watch the Magpies. The Curtain Raisers will be to hide the fact that people would still complain about having
two games to go to and when fans like me leave to hide the lower crowds at Alberton.

I think you need to leave the paranoia to the NON Port fans Lynwood. Fact is, Port Adelaide needs to concentrate on the MAJORITY of its' core supporters (the low hanging fruit) and attracting the disenfranchised back into the fold. I'm certain they'll work a pricing structure to allow people like you and opposition supporters who don't want to watch the Power into Footy Park, just like they intended for Bay supporters at the 140 year celebrations.

I also reckon you won't be complaining when they schedule a Magpie match prior to a Saints game?

How is it Paranoia saying that they have not said how Magpie fans will be affected because they haven't. and as for attracting more supporters the Magpies have enough just look at the crowds
since 97. So we do not need this, the only reason this is needed is to help the Power and if the POW was not leased by the Magpies this would not be considered. Also show me the research that says this will help boost crowds for the Power?. The only thing that will come is from Magpies fans who have already stated they will no longer follow the club becasue they will not give the power money to support the Magpies. it has nothing to do with pricing but rather where our money goes for supporting our club.

good to see nothing has changed. If you disagree with been real it's either cod you are paranoid or jealous . Lynwood good to. See we have sensible port fans left who don't have a victim mentality.