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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:06 pm

saintal wrote:I cringed at sentiments such as “The CFS should let them burn if there is a fire”.

Agreed saintal - racial hatred and intolerance are alive and well in the Adelaide Hills!

Make no mistake this hatred and intolerance is at the core of the resistance to this proposal.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby saintal » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:47 am

fish wrote:
saintal wrote:I cringed at sentiments such as “The CFS should let them burn if there is a fire”.

Agreed saintal - racial hatred and intolerance are alive and well in the Adelaide Hills!

Make no mistake this hatred and intolerance is at the core of the resistance to this proposal.


Maybe for the vocal minority. Most have genuine concerns not fueled by hatred and intolerance, but in saying that, we all should be concerned about our (lack of) border control.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby cripple » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:57 am

saintal wrote:
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Leaping Lindner wrote:Heard excerpts from last night's meeting on ABC radio this morning. Did themselves proud the Hills folk. :roll:


Gett off your high moral horse and understand that the reality is this decision has been dumped on these people with no consultation or decency whatsoever. It impacts on their families and way of life in a very immediate way.
Sure, a few loud mouths get carried away and don't reflect well on the community, but very legitimate and reasonable concerns shouldn't be overlooked.
And as Dutchy says, Julia was in the area a few days ago but, guess what, not a mention of it.
I think i would be wanting a few answers if i lived up there.


Great post Ronnie. Unless you live in the town and are directly impacted its hard to really grasp the (potential) significance of the decision. Naturally the media will latch on to the loudest, most controversial in attendence.

Last night was disappointing in the sense that basically no new information was provided. I understand that a lot can be achieved in the 6-8 weeks before the first arrivals, but this reeks of a desperate move with very little prior thought gone into it. Too many on xmas island, boat loads arriving weekly, some federal land and empty houses tucked away in SA, so lets dump them there.

That is true, Julia was in leafy Aldgate for a "photo opportunity" on Sunday apparently.


I disagree that you only have an interest in this if you live in Woodside. This issue of asylum seekers affects all australians and it is not that much of a stretch for many of us to imagine how we would feel if the next Inverbrackie or Northam was set up next door to us. Over the past couple of days the people of woodside have done themselves no favours in my eyes, but there would be plenty of people (probably the majority) that agree with them and would react the same way.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby whufc » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:01 am

fish wrote:
saintal wrote:I cringed at sentiments such as “The CFS should let them burn if there is a fire”.

Agreed saintal - racial hatred and intolerance are alive and well in the Adelaide Hills!

Make no mistake this hatred and intolerance is at the core of the resistance to this proposal.


I think most people would rather see Australians in need helped before people from other countries.

I think thats human nature isnt it, you want to help those who are closet to you.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby cripple » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:43 am

whufc wrote:
fish wrote:
saintal wrote:I cringed at sentiments such as “The CFS should let them burn if there is a fire”.

Agreed saintal - racial hatred and intolerance are alive and well in the Adelaide Hills!

Make no mistake this hatred and intolerance is at the core of the resistance to this proposal.


I think most people would rather see Australians in need helped before people from other countries.

I think thats human nature isnt it, you want to help those who are closet to you.


No, I think most australians would rather see someone who deserves help get help and wouldn't make judgements on race, religion, background etc... Why should the australian tax payer continue to help those australians who can't be bothered helping themselves.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Dutchy » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:36 pm

Hard to feel sorry for homeless in Australia, they get plenty of help, both financially and support. Some just cant break down the habits they have and choose to live like that, everyone in Australia has choices on how they live, from my limited understanding thats not the case in other countries.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Brucetiki » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:46 pm

A bit of a positive story about this issue - local hills churches are putting the feelers out across their weekend services to see who would be willing to help out the refugees

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5942439056
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:34 pm

Brucetiki wrote:A bit of a positive story about this issue - local hills churches are putting the feelers out across their weekend services to see who would be willing to help out the refugees

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5942439056

And another positive approach from the other end of the country.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/conten ... 053740.htm

As the Prime Minster pursues her Government's immigration agenda overseas, a remote community in Queensland is preparing to welcome hundreds of Afghan asylum seekers...
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby 7-Dog » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:10 pm

They live, 300 Metres from my house. Never had an issue with them down the road. I was fortunate enough to have 3 young boys be able to play in my Under 18's football team. It is something those 3 boys and myself will always remember.

In saying that, they shouldn't be here. Our own Indigenous community here and further west & north needs more attention.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Iron Fist » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:34 am

7-Dog wrote:They live, 300 Metres from my house. Never had an issue with them down the road. I was fortunate enough to have 3 young boys be able to play in my Under 18's football team. It is something those 3 boys and myself will always remember.

In saying that, they shouldn't be here. Our own Indigenous community here and further west & north needs more attention.


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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:44 am

7-Dog wrote:They live, 300 Metres from my house. Never had an issue with them down the road. I was fortunate enough to have 3 young boys be able to play in my Under 18's football team. It is something those 3 boys and myself will always remember.

In saying that, they shouldn't be here. Our own Indigenous community here and further west & north needs more attention.


BANG BANG, you have hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Magpiespower » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:51 am

Dutchy wrote:Hard to feel sorry for homeless in Australia, they get plenty of help, both financially and support. Some just cant break down the habits they have and choose to live like that, everyone in Australia has choices on how they live, from my limited understanding thats not the case in other countries.


Helluva lot of homeless people I see wandering the streets of Sydney clearly suffer from mental illness...
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Psyber » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:03 am

Magpiespower wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Hard to feel sorry for homeless in Australia, they get plenty of help, both financially and support. Some just cant break down the habits they have and choose to live like that, everyone in Australia has choices on how they live, from my limited understanding thats not the case in other countries.
Helluva lot of homeless people I see wandering the streets of Sydney clearly suffer from mental illness...
Yes it is a factor in all cities.
In the race to empty the old mental hospitals [and sell the land] a lot of chronically ill who genuinely needed "asylum" in its original meeting got "placed" in private boarding houses without support - allegedly in the interests of their "freedom". There they became a nuisance and got moved on - usually to the streets.
I occasionally recognise some "derelict" who used to be in the long stay accommodation at Hillcrest.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fisho mcspaz » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:14 pm

Yes, there's a man who lives across the road from my gran who used to be in Glenside and was deposited back into society. He does not cope very well, lives like a derelict and has borrowed hundreds off my gran and everyone else on the street to feed into the pokies. He lives off cat food unless Meals on Wheels comes. He used to have a companion, or maybe she was his wife, whom he met in Glenside, whom he would send out to beg on the street in the worst weather. She was once a university professor but you'd never have believed it to observe her. She died in the end, probably at least partly because of malnutrition. :evil:
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:29 pm

fisho mcspaz wrote:Yes, there's a man who lives across the road from my gran who used to be in Glenside and was deposited back into society. He does not cope very well, lives like a derelict and has borrowed hundreds off my gran and everyone else on the street to feed into the pokies. He lives off cat food unless Meals on Wheels comes. He used to have a companion, or maybe she was his wife, whom he met in Glenside, whom he would send out to beg on the street in the worst weather. She was once a university professor but you'd never have believed it to observe her. She died in the end, probably at least partly because of malnutrition. :evil:

I met a few homeless people when working in the parklands a few years ago. I remember one guy who was extremely intelligent, very well read and very well spoken, but just socially inept and prone to episodes of mindless anger and aggression that I presume led to his homeless situation.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby overloaded » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:32 pm

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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby Psyber » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:00 am

Early in my career I treated a formerly successful engineer who developed a late onset Paranoid Schizophrenia in his late 30s.
A few years later he was living in a boarding house on his pension and wearing second hand clothes.
It was a sobering experience for me, overloaded, to realise we are all at risk of developing something, even late in life, that will take our destiny out of our hands that is not caused by our own behaviour, but rather the lottery of genetic and prenatal influences as that condition is.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby bulldogproud2 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:43 am

Psyber wrote:Early in my career I treated a formerly successful engineer who developed a late onset Paranoid Schizophrenia in his late 30s.
A few years later he was living in a boarding house on his pension and wearing second hand clothes.
It was a sobering experience for me, overloaded, to realise we are all at risk of developing something, even late in life, that will take our destiny out of our hands that is not caused by our own behaviour, but rather the lottery of genetic and prenatal influences as that condition is.


Agreed. a regular attendee at the Matthew Talbot Hostel in Sydney (which looks after the homeless and those struggling in our community - part of St. Vincent de Paul) is a former High Court Judge. Unfortunately, when his wife left him, he became an alcoholic and has really struggled with his life. Unfortunately it can happen to any of us and just takes a bad event to trigger it off.
For those of you who would like to actually assist the homeless, feel free to apply to join us in Fred's Van (also part of St. Vincent de Paul). We work in teams and go out to feed the homeless and give them a shoulder to lean on. There are a number of vans now operating in Adelaide - city centre, western suburbs, northern suburbs, southern suburbs.
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby brother noompsy 11 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:46 pm

I think its Fu*** crap that they cum over here and get housing then get visas and looked after like kings its a disgrace we should look after people in our backyard before we take on more other problems ...They bring there religious rights here which there trying to brain wash us with they get me so b loody angry rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.give it 10 years and they will turn something like broome or another town into a barb wire surrounding and it will turn into the mexican border all these immagrants trying to escape soon they will be taking your kids employment then what will make us think leave us alone
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Re: Asylum seekers may be housed at Inverbrackie (Woodside)

Postby fish » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:48 pm

No surprise to see Tony Abbott in Woodside today trying to capitalise on the racist sentiments out there regarding boat people. It was hilarious to see his gobsmacked response when someone told him that boat people only make up 4% of immigrants. :lol:
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