Future Growth & Infrastructure of Adelaide

[once_were_warriors]

To fix South Road temprarily whilst the 20 year plan is implemented:

Block of every 2 out of 3 side streets entering South Road , (Regency Rd through to Sturt Rd)
Major Intersections - restrict right hand turns during peak hours eg turn right at Richmond Rd , no turn right at Sir Donald.
Remove stand alone pedestrian lights.
Buy 10000l of yellow paint, with no parking on South Rd at all between hours of 6am to 9pm. Monday through Friday
DTEI to actually undertake proper traffic surveys and adjust accordingly traffic signal phases at all major intersections.

Same could be done on Goodwood Rd, Tapleys Rd, Marion Rd, Unley Rd.

Spend Some coin now and actually have conceptual designs in place , such that when funding is available, procurement and construction can commence quickly.

[Ronnie]

To fix South Road temprarily whilst the 20 year plan is implemented:

Block of every 2 out of 3 side streets entering South Road , (Regency Rd through to Sturt Rd)
Major Intersections - restrict right hand turns during peak hours eg turn right at Richmond Rd , no turn right at Sir Donald.
Remove stand alone pedestrian lights.
Buy 10000l of yellow paint, with no parking on South Rd at all between hours of 6am to 9pm. Monday through Friday
DTEI to actually undertake proper traffic surveys and adjust accordingly traffic signal phases at all major intersections.

Same could be done on Goodwood Rd, Tapleys Rd, Marion Rd, Unley Rd.

Spend Some coin now and actually have conceptual designs in place , such that when funding is available, procurement and construction can commence quickly.

Some good ideas there.
But stand alone pedestrian lights often are there for schools, surely those need to stay.

[White Line Fever]

We have tried to make things work in a better and more effective way.

O-Bahn
Southern Expressway
Northern Expressway
Port River Expressway
South Eastern Freeway

Hilton Bridge -> underpass
Gallipoli underpass
Port River bridge

etc etc.

These are positive things, even if some of them weren't done in the best way or with the most thought.

I like the idae of a north/south corridor. It's going to take al ot of money and a lot of time though.
God knows what will happen around South Road, mainly 6 or 7 km from the CBD.

Personally I think that the OBahn busway is the best form of public transport for the local conditions that we have in Adelaide out of all the public transport options, it was very much a visionary idea and it has worked very well - 15mins from Tea Tree Plaza to the City on the Express in Peak Hour is not so bad, will drop further when they can get it through the ring road peak hour traffic faster as funded by the feds.

With South Rd, Pat Conlon was on Leons show on 5AA suggesting that he would like to see the Southern Expressway link up with South Road at the Cross Rd Overpass. Think this would be a huge step forward for the southern side of the city if this were to be able to be done!

Great idea.

They need to just follow the Tonsley train line then Noarlunga line to Cross Road.

Build above it on concrete legs like the majority of Melbourne freeways in inner metro area.

Bulldoze a few homes.
Tough but that's life.

[Dissident]

I know most people will disagree with me, but I really like the idea of reducing some roads from two to ONE lane, and creating a permanent park lane, and a permanent turning lane.

It's what they've done on the top of Prospect Road. Yes. it seems silly - but the flow is so much easier (what I've experienced). There aren't people waiting for people turning right, and people going around parked cars.

This could work on Unley Road/King WIlliam Road, Port Rush/Glynburn Roads... etc.

Of course, I couldn't be barking up the wrong tree.

[Hondo]

Some good ideas there.
But stand alone pedestrian lights often are there for schools, surely those need to stay.

I agree. I am happy to wait for children to cross the road to go to school! The one just before Richmond road as you head north is for the primary school. I don''t think we can turn South Road as it is now into a freeway.

I use South Road between Anzac Highway and Port Road and the flow isn't too bad outside of peak hours. If I leave for home at 5pm it takes 30-40 minutes. If I leave at 5.45 it takes 20-25 minutes. There's a risk of blocking too much other access (car and pedestrian) to South Road just to cater for the peak hours. Something needs to be done outside of blocking access IMO. One exception though is the stretch between Torrens Road and Port Road where right hand turns at peak hour on a 4 lane road can cause chaos!

One thing I have thought about is pedestrian bridges across South Road instead of actually crossing the road. The problem would be finding the room on either side of the road as in some stretches the properties come right up to the footpath.

[Dissident]

I'm not a fan of using city-bound roads in the morning. I try to avoid them.

I live in Modbury Heights and work in Dulwich. I drive straight down Sudultz/Newton/St Bernards/Penfold road, on to Kensington, and left onto Prescott. I hate using North East, or Lower North East in the morning.

[fisho mcspaz]

I wish that Port Augusta or Whyalla could be designed as a second metropolis but unfortunately I don't think the government can be bothered. The urban sprawl - particularly the coastal region down south - is getting out of hand. Most of this state is desert and here we are chewing up all the best arable land because everyone wants to live near the beach.

[Leaping Lindner]

Having just returned from the old home town my one suggestion would be denser inner city housing. More people, more services more to do. Also improve public transport in these areas to take the pressure of traffic.
You don't have to be packed in like sardines but you can have a smaller home/unit whatever. If you want a backyard or whatvever you've always got the option of the suburbs. I stayed at my mums when I was over there, which is considered inner city, and at night it was like an above ground cemetry. Do people in Adelaide actually go out on weeknights anymore??

[Bully]

I wish that Port Augusta or Whyalla could be designed as a second metropolis but unfortunately I don't think the government can be bothered. The urban sprawl - particularly the coastal region down south - is getting out of hand. Most of this state is desert and here we are chewing up all the best arable land because everyone wants to live near the beach.

maybe for adelaide its getting out of hand.But the govenrment wont do anything about roads and rail. Try living in south east queensland, then you will see some urban sprawl

[Barto]

Adelaide missed the boat

I think you've summed it up perfectly Barto

There's too much building infill in areas that were set aside for transport corridors, it couldn't be done today. At least when Perth did it in the late 50s, early 60s, the city was sparsely populated enough that it was possible to bulldoze things without upsetting many people.

[Barto]

I know most people will disagree with me, but I really like the idea of reducing some roads from two to ONE lane, and creating a permanent park lane, and a permanent turning lane.

It's what they've done on the top of Prospect Road. Yes. it seems silly - but the flow is so much easier (what I've experienced). There aren't people waiting for people turning right, and people going around parked cars.

This could work on Unley Road/King WIlliam Road, Port Rush/Glynburn Roads... etc.

Of course, I couldn't be barking up the wrong tree.

I'm a big fan of slip lanes for turning right, but how many people use them effectively with the car jutting out into traffic or not merging right soon enough before hitting the brakes, then indicating?

The only problem with one lane is that if something happens, there's no way around it.

[Gingernuts]

Though it was worth bumping this thread for this story:

"Adelaide suburbs to go high-rise"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/adelaide-suburbs-to-go-high-rise/story-e6frea6u-1225943300298

Talking about re-zoning along major transport corridors. Excellent move IMO.

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

[Pottsy]

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

Geez, i was driving down that last weekend. It took absolutely forever to get nowhere. The boy and I were actually cheering every time we got through another set of lights. Hope that's not the way we're headed!

[Barto]

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

Geez, i was driving down that last weekend. It took absolutely forever to get nowhere. The boy and I were actually cheering every time we got through another set of lights. Hope that's not the way we're headed!

Isn't it like that already in peak hour?

[Pottsy]

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

Geez, i was driving down that last weekend. It took absolutely forever to get nowhere. The boy and I were actually cheering every time we got through another set of lights. Hope that's not the way we're headed!

Isn't it like that already in peak hour?

Yep. Not on Sunday at 1pm with no major event on though.

[Gingernuts]

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

Geez, i was driving down that last weekend. It took absolutely forever to get nowhere. The boy and I were actually cheering every time we got through another set of lights. Hope that's not the way we're headed!

Isn't it like that already in peak hour?

Yep. Not on Sunday at 1pm with no major event on though.

I guess I was thinking more about the access to public transport (tram). Would work well for Port Rd when the extend the tramline further down it.

[Sojourner]

One thing I have thought about is pedestrian bridges across South Road instead of actually crossing the road. The problem would be finding the room on either side of the road as in some stretches the properties come right up to the footpath.

Totally agree Hondo, they are used extensively interstate over arterial roads and the only one I can recall in existence in SA is on Main North Rd near the Old Spot Hotel, no shortage of people had to be fatalities on that stretch of road before the State Government would actually invest the coin to put it up which in the scheme of things cant have been all that high an amount, especially with most road bridges these days being mainly built off site and installed complete rather than built on site. If some houses have to go then pick ones that are businesses and pay for them to be relocated to a comparable location, and get rid of the pedestrian crossings, it cant be all that hard to work out!

[Footy Chick]

There's one on South Terrace next to Pulteney Grammer and one on (bugger, can't think of the street) in Walkerville near ST Whats-his-names school too.

[Dissident]

Though it was worth bumping this thread for this story:

"Adelaide suburbs to go high-rise"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/adelaide-suburbs-to-go-high-rise/story-e6frea6u-1225943300298

Talking about re-zoning along major transport corridors. Excellent move IMO.

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

And obviously ...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5944439672

[White Line Fever]

Though it was worth bumping this thread for this story:

"Adelaide suburbs to go high-rise"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/adelaide-suburbs-to-go-high-rise/story-e6frea6u-1225943300298

Talking about re-zoning along major transport corridors. Excellent move IMO.

St Kilda Rd in Melbourne is a good example of how it can work if done properly.

And obviously ...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5944439672

This is the problem.

If you don't want 'towers' next to you move out to the country.
If you choose close to city residence then this must be expected.

As if someones privacy or a shadow should affect our ability to grow.

This is a great idea putting numbers along transport corridors.
More population = more infrastructure = more jobs

Its a cycle that keeps everyone employed and makes money.
Go Adelaide.