2010 Magarey Medal

[G]

Sad that 2 of our Media reps on here [CK and Phil H] actually tipped Giles to run 1 and 2 when in fact he hardly troubled the scorers

-Your excused CK as during the televised games your probably missing parts of the game getting your make-up touched up but seriously he had NO possible hope

[CoverKing]

Well done to James Allan for his win. A great night at a special event.

A few surprises on the night, IMHO:

- Tim Weatherald does not poll a vote in his 300th game against Port for 30 possessions, when most observers award him BOG.

- Norwood's Kieran McGuinness does not poll any votes. South's Nick Liddle only polls seven. Regardless of being in a bottom team, he had some games where he was absolutely dominant. Sturt's Jonathan Giles polls only five votes, Glenelg's Trevor Cranston one - possibly an indication that the thought of a ruckman again winning the Medal may be in the past.

- Round 21, WA 3.4 def P.A 2.4. WA's Greg Rowe polls 3 votes for 13 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal. Nat Caruso 2 votes for 9 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal. PA's Mark Dolling 1 vote for 23 disposals,, 2 marks. James Miekeljohn does not poll for 10 disposals, 45 hitouts.

There were a few on the night that raised some eyebrows, and any mention above is not intended to be a criticism of either the players who received votes or the umpires involved, but an observation as to how differently people view games.

Otherwise, an excellent night and always great to see so many of the legends of the SANFL there.

I thought he was one of our bests that night. How many tackles did he lay?

[CK]

Two.

[CoverKing]

Two.

Really? I thought he was one of our bests. Did only see a half though

[StrayDog]

Well done to James Allan for his win. A great night at a special event.

A few surprises on the night, IMHO:

.......

....... South's Nick Liddle only polls seven. Regardless of being in a bottom team, he had some games where he was absolutely dominant.

I think he bagged three of those against Centrals at Noarlunga late in R19, even though his side went down by five goals.

Yes, very surprising he didn't pick up more over the year.

[CoverKing]

There were 2 football matches played in Adelaide tonight with a 3-2 scoreline. One was at Hindmarsh Stadium and the other at Richmond Oval. One was won by the Adelaide Reds, the other by West Adelaide.

In dreadful conditions the Bloods beat a determined Port, 3.4 to 2.4. The oval was a combination of mud and/or sheets of water after several downpours late afternoon and the contest was more like rugby with a giant scrum moving slowly up and down the field.

Westies lost Ferguson with back spasms before the game but Davenport dropped back from the Power. Fort Caruso didn’t play. 18yo Nick Homburg played his first game and it was wonderful to see Logan Hill playing senior footy again after 2 yrs out with a broken leg. The first Q saw Westies make the most of their forward entries with Nat Caruso leading the way. He kicked our first goal and the clever Davenport the second and we went into the first break leading 2.1 to zero.

Port didn’t trouble the scorer until the 8 minute mark of the 2ndQ but they worked their way back into the game holding the ball in their forward line for most of the Q, scoring their first major at the 16 min mark. When the ball occasionally drifted forward the Port defence were always in front of their opposition and we went scoreless to half time but still in front 2.1 to 1.2.

The 3rdQ was an arm wrestle with Port playing much better wet weather footy but unable to score against some terrific West defence. Caire, Fisher and Green did some tough work in the face of a determined young Port team and their secret weapon, umpire Frank Manic-As. He must have given Port around ten frees deep in their defence this Q denying us scoring chances. 3Q WA 2.4, PA 1.4.

The last saw an early Port goal to Beard which had scores locked at 2.4 apiece for much of the Q. The game consisted of a sequence of scrum – ball-up – scrum with all players congregating around the ball. You easily could have played a game of mini-league in the other half of the oval. Westies probably had more of the play this Q and were the more desperate at the ball and when Hartlett flew into the ruck and punched the ball to Greg Rowe who snapped truly we went a goal clear with only minutes to go and were able to scramble a win. Déjà vu for Port as we won at Alberton mid season with a late snap in another tight contest.

Umpires Williams and Fila applied a commonsense approach in the conditions but umpire Manic-As was able to pluck frees from packs and ruck contests on a regular basis.

The scoreline was one for the statisticians. The lowest winning score since 1919, the second lowest ever, the lowest at Richmond, the lowest aggregate score at Richmond, etc.

Port had 219 possessions to our 202, they also won the clearances 34 to 29. West were lucky to win considering their offensive efforts were so ordinary but their endeavour and defensive efforts could not be questioned. In such conditions front position is imperative and our forwards played from behind most of the game. We also tended to go short too often whereas a long kick will always create more chances. Put simply, we didn’t help ourselves by failing to fully adapt to the conditions but our experience and toughness got us over the line. Best were Caruso, Caire, Green, Ezard Scott Blesing and Rowe.

For the second week in a row we could only manage 3 gls. The 2s lost 4.3 to 2.4

Quote from the Westies v Port Match Review from Black and Red.

He had Nat Caruso best on, with Rowey 5th. Wouldnt have hurt Roweys chances with kicking 1 of 5 goals for the game either.

Fair call by the Umpires IMO

[Big Phil]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 5924009067

[StrayDog]

Thanks.

[doggies4eva]

I suppose we can deduce that you're more likely to score votes when your team wins as opposed to when it gets beaten.
That's rocket science that noones ever worked out before in the history of the Magarey and Brownlow and most awards around the world!

I assume that the you refer to is your team - as the votes per team are roughly equivalent to the premiership table. The top 3 teams Norwood, Central and Glenelg all had multiple players receiving high numbers of votes while North while scoring 53 team votes (the top 3 got about 80) had 1 player take out 22.

So the medal is tending to go to a player who plays in a team where his team mates will not take votes away.

[robranisgod]

I suppose we can deduce that you're more likely to score votes when your team wins as opposed to when it gets beaten.
That's rocket science that noones ever worked out before in the history of the Magarey and Brownlow and most awards around the world!

I assume that the you refer to is your team - as the votes per team are roughly equivalent to the premiership table. The top 3 teams Norwood, Central and Glenelg all had multiple players receiving high numbers of votes while North while scoring 53 team votes (the top 3 got about 80) had 1 player take out 22.

So the medal is tending to go to a player who plays in a team where his team mates will not take votes away.

It did this year, probably too last year, but in 2008 and 2007 the medallist came from the second team.

I think over all the medallist comes from a team near the top, simply because those teams poll most of the votes.

[robranisgod]

WA's Greg Rowe polls 3 votes for 13 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal.

He must really catch the eye. He polled 15 votes in the reserves Magarey Medal and 8 votes in the League. If he had received that number of votes in the one competition he would have won a medal.

[doggies4eva]

I suppose we can deduce that you're more likely to score votes when your team wins as opposed to when it gets beaten.
That's rocket science that noones ever worked out before in the history of the Magarey and Brownlow and most awards around the world!

I assume that the you refer to is your team - as the votes per team are roughly equivalent to the premiership table. The top 3 teams Norwood, Central and Glenelg all had multiple players receiving high numbers of votes while North while scoring 53 team votes (the top 3 got about 80) had 1 player take out 22.

So the medal is tending to go to a player who plays in a team where his team mates will not take votes away.

It did this year, probably too last year, but in 2008 and 2007 the medallist came from the second team.

I think over all the medallist comes from a team near the top, simply because those teams poll most of the votes.

I reckon its almost a disadvantage for a finals team to have one of their players win the magery. I remember when John Platten won it. In the finals every time he went near the ball his got thumped - he dropped out of the game and we lost. With an even spread of players the opposition can't target one or 2 players and shut them down.

[Wedgie]

I reckon its almost a disadvantage for a finals team to have one of their players win the magery. I remember when John Platten won it. In the finals every time he went near the ball his got thumped - he dropped out of the game and we lost. With an even spread of players the opposition can't target one or 2 players and shut them down.

Didn't seem to bother us too much in 87 when we had the Magarey Medalist and Leading Goalkicker.

[PhilH]

Sad that 2 of our Media reps on here [CK and Phil H] actually tipped Giles to run 1 and 2 when in fact he hardly troubled the scorers

-Your excused CK as during the televised games your probably missing parts of the game getting your make-up touched up but seriously he had NO possible hope

Well G as someone who was not excused I can only repeat what I have said in many discussions on the Magarey on radio. My tip when asked was Callinan but Giles for mine has been the best player in the comp this season but the Magarey is a midfielders award.

I as hoping to be proved wrong and see a big mans efforts recognised but the trend continued. My tip in the safooty.net comp was simply backing a big man to get some due recognition.

Quite happy to argue that Giles had a better season that Allan but I also accept that James is THE ball magnet of the SANFL and stood out head and shoulders from any North team mates this year and thus is as worthy a medallist as any other midfielders in recent years.

[MagareyLegend]

Barrie Barabry coped well in the 1960 GF after winning the MM - the lazy 7 goals!

[MagareyLegend]

I reckon its almost a disadvantage for a finals team to have one of their players win the magery. I remember when John Platten won it. In the finals every time he went near the ball his got thumped - he dropped out of the game and we lost. With an even spread of players the opposition can't target one or 2 players and shut them down.

Didn't seem to bother us too much in 87 when we had the Magarey Medalist and Leading Goalkicker.

Nor Barrie Barbary in 1960

[doggies4eva]

I reckon its almost a disadvantage for a finals team to have one of their players win the magery. I remember when John Platten won it. In the finals every time he went near the ball his got thumped - he dropped out of the game and we lost. With an even spread of players the opposition can't target one or 2 players and shut them down.

Didn't seem to bother us too much in 87 when we had the Magarey Medalist and Leading Goalkicker.

I wonder if the game has changed over 23 years?

[Brodlach]

WA's Greg Rowe polls 3 votes for 13 disposals, 1 mark, 1 goal.

He must really catch the eye. He polled 15 votes in the reserves Magarey Medal and 8 votes in the League. If he had received that number of votes in the one competition he would have won a medal.

Kicking the winning goal in the last couple of minutes may have helped too

[cd]

Congratulations to all award winners last night.

The young lads in the underage and starsearch awards were very impressive with fine speeches.

Congratulations to now dual medalist James Allan - a fantastic effort.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Barrie Barabry coped well in the 1960 GF after winning the MM - the lazy 7 goals!

That was Potts.