SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2010)

[Boosh]

Hey Boosh,

Any idea if cult hero, Ty MAD DOG Duerden will be running around next year ?

You tell me Steve, he says that he is but you can never be too sure with these blokes

[Boosh]

We had two good games against Black Friars, winning one by about 10 points from memory and losing round 1 by a point, so its fair to say that both teams are very similar. At the end of the day Havens finished above Blacks but Blacks had a better percentage

No offence mate but you guys didn't match up well against us on either occasion, so it's a bit hard for me to judge your team. You obviously played some good footy throughout the year to finish above them.
It was the beauty of div. 5 this season, it would be hard to judge a list from strongest team to weakest as different teams matched up better to different opponents.
The one thing I would pencil in is that Hectorville were the best team for the season and they deservedly won the flag.

I completely agree with that, we were particularly awful against you guys at your ground. Our side being so young suffered badly from inconsistency.

Also agree with Heccies, I thought they were the stand out side from when we played them in round 2

[sprinttospace]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up

indeed mighty, you prompted me to look at our stats. put simply it was 10 games lost by under 4 goals.
many opportunities missed this year, in the end not good enough to get enough wins to finish anywhere else.
strangely we were very consistent. there were 2 losses between 24 points and 50 points and 4 losses north of 50 points.
nonetheless, planning under way for 2011 to ensure BOS continues to develop as a club and be a respected and competitive opponent in any division.
will you be back in 2011??

[Iron Fist]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

My opinion is just that, my opinion. And im clearly not objective on this topic.
But if a hypothetical game were to take place I would think it would be pretty close, West Croydons strenghts were their ruckman, their full forward and a handful of onballers that move pretty well. Its hard to compare flank and pocket postions, but in the key positions I believe North Haven have a better full forward in Forrest and better Ruckman in Eagles, Havens on ballers would not be as quick as West Croydons but some of them would definitely use the ball better.

Would be a good trial game for both temas to get an idea of what each will be coming up against next year, if anyone wants to organise it.......

This is taking nothing away from West Croydon who are now deserving premiers whilst North Haven were relegated.

I agree that those positions would be pretty fair, vessali is a quality ruckman and Ive only heard good things about eagles. forrest probs the better of the 2 forwards
but I think the crumbers and blokes who make up the last few players picked would be better at West Croydon then they were at havens this season!

[hawkseye]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

My opinion is just that, my opinion. And im clearly not objective on this topic.
But if a hypothetical game were to take place I would think it would be pretty close, West Croydons strenghts were their ruckman, their full forward and a handful of onballers that move pretty well. Its hard to compare flank and pocket postions, but in the key positions I believe North Haven have a better full forward in Forrest and better Ruckman in Eagles, Havens on ballers would not be as quick as West Croydons but some of them would definitely use the ball better.

Would be a good trial game for both temas to get an idea of what each will be coming up against next year, if anyone wants to organise it.......

This is taking nothing away from West Croydon who are now deserving premiers whilst North Haven were relegated.

If a trial was organised you couldnt gauge anything from it other than a hit out.

[Boosh]

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon[/quote]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.[/quote]

My opinion is just that, my opinion. And im clearly not objective on this topic.
But if a hypothetical game were to take place I would think it would be pretty close, West Croydons strenghts were their ruckman, their full forward and a handful of onballers that move pretty well. Its hard to compare flank and pocket postions, but in the key positions I believe North Haven have a better full forward in Forrest and better Ruckman in Eagles, Havens on ballers would not be as quick as West Croydons but some of them would definitely use the ball better.

Would be a good trial game for both temas to get an idea of what each will be coming up against next year, if anyone wants to organise it.......

This is taking nothing away from West Croydon who are now deserving premiers whilst North Haven were relegated.[/quote]

If a trial was organised you couldnt gauge anything from it other than a hit out.[/quote]

I agree, perhaps shouldn't have put it at the end of that post, I meant a trial would be handy for both clubs in transition from div 5 to div 6 and vice versa. Its hard to find teams of a similar standard for trials that you don't actually play during the year.

[Lightning McQueen]

The only way you could get some form of comparisons between grades is to have pre-season cups, maybe div's 1 to 3 in some form of knockout and perhaps div's 4 to 6 or 7 aswell.
If there was prize money players would be more willing to make themselves available opposed to trial games.
I for one am not a fan of trials, sometimes they do more harm than good, our best player got injured in one this season and missed 9 proper games despite him not playing trials for the past few seasons.
They can also change prospective players' minds if you get thumped, even if you are under-manned.

[sprinttospace]

The only way you could get some form of comparisons between grades is to have pre-season cups, maybe div's 1 to 3 in some form of knockout and perhaps div's 4 to 6 or 7 aswell.
If there was prize money players would be more willing to make themselves available opposed to trial games.
I for one am not a fan of trials, sometimes they do more harm than good, our best player got injured in one this season and missed 9 proper games despite him not playing trials for the past few seasons.
They can also change prospective players' minds if you get thumped, even if you are under-manned.

agree LM.
our best trail set up has been whitefriars coming over from Victoria.
makes for a great saturday night while they are here and a trial played in great spirit. they are div 4 in the vic comp so it's pretty hard for our lads to compete for a sustained period on the scoreboard.
just helps blow a few cobwebs out but does put some bodies at risk before the games for chocolates are played.

[Boosh]

The only way you could get some form of comparisons between grades is to have pre-season cups, maybe div's 1 to 3 in some form of knockout and perhaps div's 4 to 6 or 7 aswell.
If there was prize money players would be more willing to make themselves available opposed to trial games.
I for one am not a fan of trials, sometimes they do more harm than good, our best player got injured in one this season and missed 9 proper games despite him not playing trials for the past few seasons.
They can also change prospective players' minds if you get thumped, even if you are under-manned.

You are right that if handled poorly trial games can be detrimental, we have had that problem the last two years by having poorly planned trial games.

Thats not a bad idea with the trial games comp with prize money, North Haven prob has the capacity to host night games, would prob do a 3 team version and see how that goes

[X Runna]

Div 5, 2011 - Assuming 2 go up and 2 go down as per normal

Adelaide Lutheran
Brahma Lodge
Hope Valley
Lockleys
Plympton
Rosewater
Salisbury West
Smithfield
West Croydon
Woodville South

Not a college side in sight. This will be a very tough and even division & could be similar to Div 3 this year in that sides 2 to 8 were not too many wins apart at round 18.

Can't see a standout top 5, have my suspicions about who might get relegated unless there are some major turnarounds in a couple of clubs - but overall this will be a very interesting division.

[custardarm]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

elizabeth beat them by 4 points round 18 and then played in gf , best spooner team ever

[sprinttospace]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

elizabeth beat them by 4 points round 18 and then played in gf , best spooner team ever

3 points thanks custard

[custardarm]

see they were even better than i thought good luck sprint next year i tip a quick return

[Lightning McQueen]

see they were even better than i thought good luck sprint next year i tip a quick return

Good point LOL.

[The Dark Knight]

Having strong juniors hasn't helped us hugely player wise, financially they do really well though.

All the good players get sent to Glenelg, and then if they don't make it or are fringe players they send them to SHOCs coz they are a division one club, and not back to us because we're divvy 5. and before shocs they were sending them all to phos. It is really upsetting that a league club shows so much contempt for one of the clubs that feed it with copious ammounts of players, and should be looked into, because it cannot be good for grass roots.

Being a Sports & Recreation Club works, as long as an impartial president presides over things. The last thing you need is a pres with the blinkers on. Years ago at Plympton the only club that suffered from the pooling of funds were the cricket club a fair way back, they had a pretty large account, and cricket has bugger all overheads, and that pool of money got wiped out due to reckless spending on football players.

Player wise community/recreation/social affiliated clubs should wax off each other, gaining players from each other so that can't be bad surely!

North Haven have had the exact same problem Jabber, Port Adelaide send our players that don't make it at U/18 or Reserve level to other clubs, primarily to Port Districts. Often with the promise that they will monitor them more at these clubs, only for the players to never hear from them again. Another common trend from Port Adelaide is to farm players out from smaller clubs in their own area to clubs where past players are coaching in other areas such as Gepps Cross Seaton and even Gaza. It is a disappointing attitude from a club that seems to have lost its way and is apparently oblivious to the fact that the feeder clubs in its own area are declining in both numbers and strength.

Exactly the point with this years Under 16 crop who made the GF on Sunday and lost unfortunately. There are 5-6 betters players in the team who play juniors at Port Adelaide and have already been told to move to Port Districts next year because they are a higher division club, which IMO is absolute Bullsh!t. Them losing on the weekend to SMOSH hasn't really helped our clubs cause in retaining these very talented youngsters, a few have already moved on already and a few more will move on aswell IMO.

Happens every year unfortunately as young players have to decide whats best for them. Losing GFs doesn't help aswell, we lost heaps of players after we lost our U/18s GF in 2008.

[Demon Juke]

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up[/quote]

indeed mighty, you prompted me to look at our stats. put simply it was 10 games lost by under 4 goals.
many opportunities missed this year, in the end not good enough to get enough wins to finish anywhere else.
strangely we were very consistent. there were 2 losses between 24 points and 50 points and 4 losses north of 50 points.
nonetheless, planning under way for 2011 to ensure BOS continues to develop as a club and be a respected and competitive opponent in any division.
will you be back in 2011??[/quote]


Has the new coach been appointed yet!

[The Bartman]

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up

indeed mighty, you prompted me to look at our stats. put simply it was 10 games lost by under 4 goals.
many opportunities missed this year, in the end not good enough to get enough wins to finish anywhere else.
strangely we were very consistent. there were 2 losses between 24 points and 50 points and 4 losses north of 50 points.
nonetheless, planning under way for 2011 to ensure BOS continues to develop as a club and be a respected and competitive opponent in any division.
will you be back in 2011??[/quote]


Has the new coach been appointed yet![/quote]

I Bee-lieve he has.

[Demon Juke]

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up

indeed mighty, you prompted me to look at our stats. put simply it was 10 games lost by under 4 goals.
many opportunities missed this year, in the end not good enough to get enough wins to finish anywhere else.
strangely we were very consistent. there were 2 losses between 24 points and 50 points and 4 losses north of 50 points.
nonetheless, planning under way for 2011 to ensure BOS continues to develop as a club and be a respected and competitive opponent in any division.
will you be back in 2011??

Has the new coach been appointed yet![/quote]

I Bee-lieve he has. [/quote]

Should fit in well with that tree down there( lisa favourite). Maybe the home and away bench will have to be swapped over!

[Footy Chick]

Gee, any danger you could NOT steal Sprinters thunder and let him announce his own new coach?

Although the Bee tree thing is very fitting

[Demon Juke]

Gee, any danger you could NOT steal Sprinters thunder and let him announce his own new coach?

Although the Bee tree thing is very fitting

You snooze, you loose!