SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2010)

[Footy Chick]

Yeah, that sucks, it's all dependant on getting far enough in front that it's safe to call and tell 'em to start printing!

Obviously your bloke wasn't that confident

[Jabber]

Having strong juniors hasn't helped us hugely player wise, financially they do really well though.

All the good players get sent to Glenelg, and then if they don't make it or are fringe players they send them to SHOCs coz they are a division one club, and not back to us because we're divvy 5. and before shocs they were sending them all to phos. It is really upsetting that a league club shows so much contempt for one of the clubs that feed it with copious ammounts of players, and should be looked into, because it cannot be good for grass roots.

Being a Sports & Recreation Club works, as long as an impartial president presides over things. The last thing you need is a pres with the blinkers on. Years ago at Plympton the only club that suffered from the pooling of funds were the cricket club a fair way back, they had a pretty large account, and cricket has bugger all overheads, and that pool of money got wiped out due to reckless spending on football players.

Player wise community/recreation/social affiliated clubs should wax off each other, gaining players from each other so that can't be bad surely!

Plympton didn't come from div 6.

All my point was, in recent years 3 out of 6 clubs have passed go and collected $200.

That would suggest that Clubs have been able to leapfrog division 5.

It also suggests that once you spend a couple of years in div 5, then you're in for the long haul in that div!

Could be a case of teams hit damage control when they go down to div. 6 and start looking harder for money/ sponsors etc.
Without being derogatory, pretty sure GG, Greenies & BL all had the financial capacity to recruit, Westminster were building their club up as were Hectorville and Pulteney were fortunate to gain AFL experience which in turn made them a more attractive club to play for.
Clubs like Plympton, Rosies and Smithfield obviously don't get that person/ company that can inject some funds into them and go on huge recruiting drives, they rely on selecting the right coaches and their juniors coming through.
Being a Sports & Social Club doesn't help our cause IMO, it should be a footy club during the winter and a cricket club during the summer with each identity supporting their own sport.

Being a football club only also has it's drawbacks like not qualifying for a lot of grants because we are not a "community club". Our juniors struggle for numbers, particularly when they get to 14-17 years of age bracket, at which point clubs like Henley, Seaton and Portland take the pick of the crop and are very difficult to get back. We rely on raising a lot of money from our bar, which we dont have to share with a "sports and social" club, luckily we have a lot of pissheads. However, you are correct, we cant go on massive recruiting drives because there just isn't the cash for it.

[JS SPORTS]

Well done boys! Back to Back (or should I say Bark to Bark) massive achievement and first Hectorville team to do it in the history of the club.

Oh, you're still alive

Yes, congratulations Team Jacob.

Is it true what was written in the budget, did you really order your premiership shirts in June?

Well if we did it still didn't help them being delivered to the club on time, didn't get them till about 9pm on Sat night!!

Not an easy task to keep everyone happy on GF night, depends on how quickly you get the word to the printer. In saying that though, we had no problems with our deliveries, just ask Pooraka, got 'em at 7.00 o'clock and we had all of ours delivered by 8.15. A lot of clubs have opted for delivery of them during this week which makes it easier.

[JS SPORTS]

Well done boys! Back to Back (or should I say Bark to Bark) massive achievement and first Hectorville team to do it in the history of the club.

Oh, you're still alive

Yes, congratulations Team Jacob.

Is it true what was written in the budget, did you really order your premiership shirts in June?

Well if we did it still didn't help them being delivered to the club on time, didn't get them till about 9pm on Sat night!!

Should have stayed with JS Sports instead of ................. we got them to you last year by 8.00

[mypaddock]

Well done boys! Back to Back (or should I say Bark to Bark) massive achievement and first Hectorville team to do it in the history of the club.

Oh, you're still alive

Yes, congratulations Team Jacob.

Is it true what was written in the budget, did you really order your premiership shirts in June?

Well if we did it still didn't help them being delivered to the club on time, didn't get them till about 9pm on Sat night!!

Should have stayed with JS Sports instead of ................. we got them to you last year by 8.00

I reckon we had the shirts by 6pm last year. They were there when we arrived back at the club.

[Boosh]

went to D 6 Granny, would be fair to say both Lockley and W' Croyden have got work to do or players in need of being picked up. I think both will struggle against the run and carry of div 5 sides. Good Luck to the lads though. Just think Div 1 is out standing, Div 2&3 good battles, Div 4&5 good battles but 4 not good enough for 3 and 6 not good enough for 5 if that makes sense.

Golden Grove, Westminster, Hectorville (and nearly brahma)...

Correct me if i'm wrong but from memory all only played 1 season in div 5 coming from div 6, are now kicking goals up higher.

So i would think that the good div 6 sides seam to 'cut the mustard' in div 5 without too much trouble.

You make a good point, those are good examples of teams going through div 5 pretty quickly but if you look at each team individually, there are much more relevant factors to their success in div 5 than the fact they came from div 6, with maybe the exception of Westminster as i don't really know a lot about them.

I also watched the Div 6 GF on sat and I agree with hoodlum. It was perfect conditions for football on a ground in pretty good nick but the skill level was ordinary. I have played in a Div 5 GF and have now been relegated from Div 5 so I have some idea what is required at that level and I reckon both teams will need to improve.

Lockleys in my opinion will need a few bigger bodies around the ground and both teams will need at least 2 key position players. In saying that i think they will both stay up next year because the momentum from a good year and successful teams being in a much stronger position to recruit will be enough to get them over the line.

[JS SPORTS]

Well if we did it still didn't help them being delivered to the club on time, didn't get them till about 9pm on Sat night!![/quote]



Should have stayed with JS Sports instead of ................. we got them to you last year by 8.00[/quote]

I reckon we had the shirts by 6pm last year. They were there when we arrived back at the club.[/quote]


I reckon it was around 7.00 when I got them to you last year, but much earlier than 9.00pm. ..............

[LaughingKookaburra]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

[Boosh]

Having strong juniors hasn't helped us hugely player wise, financially they do really well though.

All the good players get sent to Glenelg, and then if they don't make it or are fringe players they send them to SHOCs coz they are a division one club, and not back to us because we're divvy 5. and before shocs they were sending them all to phos. It is really upsetting that a league club shows so much contempt for one of the clubs that feed it with copious ammounts of players, and should be looked into, because it cannot be good for grass roots.

Being a Sports & Recreation Club works, as long as an impartial president presides over things. The last thing you need is a pres with the blinkers on. Years ago at Plympton the only club that suffered from the pooling of funds were the cricket club a fair way back, they had a pretty large account, and cricket has bugger all overheads, and that pool of money got wiped out due to reckless spending on football players.

Player wise community/recreation/social affiliated clubs should wax off each other, gaining players from each other so that can't be bad surely!

North Haven have had the exact same problem Jabber, Port Adelaide send our players that don't make it at U/18 or Reserve level to other clubs, primarily to Port Districts. Often with the promise that they will monitor them more at these clubs, only for the players to never hear from them again. Another common trend from Port Adelaide is to farm players out from smaller clubs in their own area to clubs where past players are coaching in other areas such as Gepps Cross Seaton and even Gaza. It is a disappointing attitude from a club that seems to have lost its way and is apparently oblivious to the fact that the feeder clubs in its own area are declining in both numbers and strength.

[Boosh]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

[LaughingKookaburra]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

Fair enough but I have a different opinion. I never did see div 5 this year so I am not attempting to be arrogant, but history suggests that both teams that make the GF in the lower division would probably have a side that if exactly the same would finish between 4-8 in the next division up.
I know in 2005 we made the GF, went up in 2006 with a side/squad that was no where as strong as 2005 and we still finished 7th the following year in the higher division (Elizabeth finished 3rd after winning the flag previously, had mostly the same side)
Keep in mind that div 5 in 2005 was the tightest division I have ever seen, so the spread of teams was pretty similar to the one we face now in div 5.

[Iron Fist]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

[Lightning McQueen]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

[human blanket #3]

Well done boys! Back to Back (or should I say Bark to Bark) massive achievement and first Hectorville team to do it in the history of the club.

Oh, you're still alive

Yes, congratulations Team Jacob.

Is it true what was written in the budget, did you really order your premiership shirts in June?

Well if we did it still didn't help them being delivered to the club on time, didn't get them till about 9pm on Sat night!!

those where actualli shirts for the 3-peat. thats how cocky we are and its Team Luke "Future" Broadbent. dw about whether olsen will get given a towelling or not, this kid can play footy. can do the bail on sunday night to play call of duty as well

[mighty hounds]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up

[Boosh]

Think you might want to check the status of the ground being in "pretty good nick" on Saturday for the div 6 gf. As a bloke who played, it was in ordinary nick and very heavy in a lot of patches. Both teams will fare well in div 5, and of course they are going to have to recruit and develop to be a good side.
Think it's fair to assume a top div 6 side would go down by 40+ goals to a top div 1 side. So that tells you pretty much you have to consistantly improve your footy brand by 7 goals as you go up each division (To be the measuring stick).

Well im not going to argue with someone who played on it, i could only judge it by the way it looked from the sidelines and from standing on the grand stand side wing between quarters, so im in no position to give a full ground report.

From my obviously biased viewpoint I would say that North Haven and Black Friars would be even money against either Lockleys or West Croydon

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

My opinion is just that, my opinion. And im clearly not objective on this topic.
But if a hypothetical game were to take place I would think it would be pretty close, West Croydons strenghts were their ruckman, their full forward and a handful of onballers that move pretty well. Its hard to compare flank and pocket postions, but in the key positions I believe North Haven have a better full forward in Forrest and better Ruckman in Eagles, Havens on ballers would not be as quick as West Croydons but some of them would definitely use the ball better.

Would be a good trial game for both temas to get an idea of what each will be coming up against next year, if anyone wants to organise it.......

This is taking nothing away from West Croydon who are now deserving premiers whilst North Haven were relegated.

[Boosh]

Dont know much about Lockleys or Black Friars, but if North haven and West Croydon were to meet this season, I reckon West Croydon would get up by 5-6 goals.

Blackfriars were as good as any other team I seen this season, their ladder position didn't warrant their talent pool IMO, they lost a lot of their games by narrow margins.

very true LM. could of been in the finals but had the worse luck with close results. something like 8 or 9 games under 4 goals, im sure sprint can confirm that. hopefully they can bounce straight back up

We had two good games against Black Friars, winning one by about 10 points from memory and losing round 1 by a point, so its fair to say that both teams are very similar. At the end of the day Havens finished above Blacks but Blacks had a better percentage

[superlative steve]

Hey Boosh,

Any idea if cult hero, Ty MAD DOG Duerden will be running around next year ?

[Lightning McQueen]

We had two good games against Black Friars, winning one by about 10 points from memory and losing round 1 by a point, so its fair to say that both teams are very similar. At the end of the day Havens finished above Blacks but Blacks had a better percentage

No offence mate but you guys didn't match up well against us on either occasion, so it's a bit hard for me to judge your team. You obviously played some good footy throughout the year to finish above them.
It was the beauty of div. 5 this season, it would be hard to judge a list from strongest team to weakest as different teams matched up better to different opponents.
The one thing I would pencil in is that Hectorville were the best team for the season and they deservedly won the flag.

[EddieV]

We had two good games against Black Friars, winning one by about 10 points from memory and losing round 1 by a point, so its fair to say that both teams are very similar. At the end of the day Havens finished above Blacks but Blacks had a better percentage

No offence mate but you guys didn't match up well against us on either occasion, so it's a bit hard for me to judge your team. You obviously played some good footy throughout the year to finish above them.
It was the beauty of div. 5 this season, it would be hard to judge a list from strongest team to weakest as different teams matched up better to different opponents.
The one thing I would pencil in is that Hectorville were the best team for the season and they deservedly won the flag.

I agree with this...they were a very good team and well deserved to win on Saturday so congrats to them and good luck next year in Div4.
I also thought Plympton in the B grade were probably the best side i played against so once again i feel they deserved the win on the weekend also.