HFL Division 1 (Central)

[pushing forward]

I think some of TV's points will be hanging on exactly what constitutes a local player.
Does anyone know where the finals are this Saturday?

I think a player who has played at a club for enough years to reduce their points to that of a local would be considered a local. Players such as Josh Hill for TV or the McLeans from Uraidla are a few that come to mind

[Afterthesiren]

TV come to Central Div with 12 points I'm told.

[Justquietly]

3. The sytem is not evening up the competitions but having a reverse effect as the larger clubs with a greater population and junior base are getting further ahead.
Just think clubs like Blackwood , Lofty and Barker how many genuine A grade players will come through their junior ranks compared to say Lobethal and Uraidla.
The country Div is worse as it is common knowledge some clubs in country div need to recruit several players just to get 42 on the ground each week.
The smaller populated clubs need to recruit sometimes heavily to be competitve.

Some valid points. I'm not sure though that you could put Lofty in the same bracket as Blackwood & Barker when it comes to population. I'm pretty sure Lofty, Bridgewater and I/bank sometimes scrounge around shared areas for players.
I think if it starts to have an adverse effect, it'll be adjusted each year (more points for bottom 3) or clubs will merge, a sad reflection of what started as a noble idea.

[Justquietly]

Balhannah for Sat's games. Jeez, gotta find a designated driver willing to head out there.

[The Panther]

3. The sytem is not evening up the competitions but having a reverse effect as the larger clubs with a greater population and junior base are getting further ahead.
Just think clubs like Blackwood , Lofty and Barker how many genuine A grade players will come through their junior ranks compared to say Lobethal and Uraidla.
The country Div is worse as it is common knowledge some clubs in country div need to recruit several players just to get 42 on the ground each week.
The smaller populated clubs need to recruit sometimes heavily to be competitve.

Some valid points. I'm not sure though that you could put Lofty in the same bracket as Blackwood & Barker when it comes to population. I'm pretty sure Lofty, Bridgewater and I/bank sometimes scrounge around shared areas for players.
I think if it starts to have an adverse effect, it'll be adjusted each year (more points for bottom 3) or clubs will merge, a sad reflection of what started as a noble idea.

I put Lofty in based on their continual success at junior level and the fact that they have the high school next door - giving them access to a lot of junior talent ( potential A grade players ).

[Justquietly]

Yeah, we've had some good success with juniors. Wish they'd stuck around when I played, would've meant less chasing for me.

[supercoach]

Interesting Panther that you deem Lobethal as not being a major town. Would have thought most clubs would love to have the area and district to choose from that they have. Would have the same area and population to choose from as Hahndorf and Lofty.

[Afterthesiren]

Clubs will need to be far more selective in who they recruit under the new points system. Gone are the days of getting half a dozen ex SANFL players... unless they are happy to play B grade on a rotation basis (I have heard of this happening in other leagues).

[Trooper]

The points system sound nice in theory but you still have to be able to afford to recruit 12 - 15points worth of recruits. Points aren't an issue for alot of clubs. It's the funds to try and top up your list each year. The money in country and hills footy is definately forcing alot of clubs beyond their means.

[Afterthesiren]

The points system sound nice in theory but you still have to be able to afford to recruit 12 - 15points worth of recruits. Points aren't an issue for alot of clubs. It's the funds to try and top up your list each year. The money in country and hills footy is definately forcing alot of clubs beyond their means.

I agree, retaining the current player list is not an easy thing to do. Players are getting offered ridiculous amounts of money to play country footy as well as sign ons and other incentives.

[Littlelegs]

So any word on the relegation of a side??? really confused with how the HFL is being run.
Also what would a player that played 4 years of seniors at a hills club then went to town to play div 1 then decided to return to the hills, what would his points be??

[Afterthesiren]

So any word on the relegation of a side??? really confused with how the HFL is being run.
Also what would a player that played 4 years of seniors at a hills club then went to town to play div 1 then decided to return to the hills, what would his points be??

Under this new system if he played any juniors he would come back as a zero point player. Otherwise he would return as a 3 point player being that he played Div 1.

[Justquietly]

Tips...

A Grade: Mt Lofty vs Uraidla - jeez...I'd be PUMPED if the Devs got up but I think Uris have more scoring power.
B Grade: Mt Barker vs Uraidla - Roos to be out in straight sets, I still think that Uris and Lofty are the 2 best B grade teams at this stage.

I don't know enough about the juniors so if anyone wants to wade in with their 2 cents worth, go nuts.

[flanker]

Tips...

A Grade: Mt Lofty vs Uraidla - jeez...I'd be PUMPED if the Devs got up but I think Uris have more scoring power.
B Grade: Mt Barker vs Uraidla - Roos to be out in straight sets, I still think that Uris and Lofty are the 2 best B grade teams at this stage.

I don't know enough about the juniors so if anyone wants to wade in with their 2 cents worth, go nuts.

will also be tougher for the Devils is Gordon doesn't play, which has been rumoured.

[Littlelegs]

So any word on the relegation of a side??? really confused with how the HFL is being run.
Also what would a player that played 4 years of seniors at a hills club then went to town to play div 1 then decided to return to the hills, what would his points be??

Under this new system if he played any juniors he would come back as a zero point player. Otherwise he would return as a 3 point player being that he played Div 1.

Interesting, so more or less you are only a local if you played Juniors at the club. i understand the reason behind the point system but its way too hard to find a way of implementing it fairly across the board, as they say, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

[The Devils Own]

Tips...

A Grade: Mt Lofty vs Uraidla - jeez...I'd be PUMPED if the Devs got up but I think Uris have more scoring power.
B Grade: Mt Barker vs Uraidla - Roos to be out in straight sets, I still think that Uris and Lofty are the 2 best B grade teams at this stage.

I don't know enough about the juniors so if anyone wants to wade in with their 2 cents worth, go nuts.

will also be tougher for the Devils is Gordon doesn't play, which has been rumoured.

Pumped would be an Understatement, Uraidla will get up if its not boggy and the ball is moving well, otherwise think the Roos might get up after their loss which would have definately fired them up

[Tex]

So any word on the relegation of a side??? really confused with how the HFL is being run.
Also what would a player that played 4 years of seniors at a hills club then went to town to play div 1 then decided to return to the hills, what would his points be??

Under this new system if he played any juniors he would come back as a zero point player. Otherwise he would return as a 3 point player being that he played Div 1.

Interesting, so more or less you are only a local if you played Juniors at the club. i understand the reason behind the point system but its way too hard to find a way of implementing it fairly across the board, as they say, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

That is not the case if a player played 25 games for the club previously or it might be 2 years whether that be seniors or juniors he is declared a local so zero points

[mighty hounds]

So any word on the relegation of a side??? really confused with how the HFL is being run.
Also what would a player that played 4 years of seniors at a hills club then went to town to play div 1 then decided to return to the hills, what would his points be??

Under this new system if he played any juniors he would come back as a zero point player. Otherwise he would return as a 3 point player being that he played Div 1.

Interesting, so more or less you are only a local if you played Juniors at the club. i understand the reason behind the point system but its way too hard to find a way of implementing it fairly across the board, as they say, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

That is not the case if a player played 25 games for the club previously or it might be 2 years whether that be seniors or juniors he is declared a local so zero points

it doesnt matter if you end up playing AFL, SANFL or go to another club if you played a number of years of juniors at a club then returned you will be zero points

[dangermouse]

My 2 cents re points system-
-I think it is a mistake to allocate -1 point for a senior colt. If you create loop-holes like this some clubs will exploit it to the detriment of the club (senior colts siting entire games on benches, or getting smashed by bigger bodies if they do play; disgruntled local players being forced into the b, c or no grade so that the A grade mercernaries/kids composite team can fit under the points).

-Hadicapping creates an unlevel playing field for the following season for one, and I think encourages clubs that finish on the bottom to maximise their next seasons points advantage through recruiting, using valuable club coffers to do so.

I think country footy as a whole should be applauded for trying to do somthing regarding the out-of-control spending we are seeing throughout SA footy and I hope that whatever the system that is implemented, that it is consistent accross leagues but also not set in concrete so that it can be tweaked and refined as officials learn more about it's effects upon footy clubs and leagues.

And a final thought: The Vic Amatueur league is totally amatuer, as in, noone gets paid. If that was somehow able to be implemented in amatuer and country footy it would be very interesting to see where players end up (probably at their junior clubs, or playing with mates). Secondly, imagine what footy clubs accross the state would be able to do with all their new found wealth that they are now saving! If you are wondering why your clubs opposition changerooms are the size of a broom closet, why the showers go cold after five minutes, why you are using a wheelie bon for an ice-bath, or what your best footy for training is a fifteen kg cinderblock, ask your president or the five gun recruits sitting next to you!!

[Bluedemon]

where will the GF be held at?