WA V SA P/CUP game

[westozfalcon]

I always love a WA win but I'm not going to beat my chest with pride and gloat because SA made it easy for us with a pathetic batting effort.

Still like 'Hawk said, Tait's performance is a clear positive. There's not a lot wrong with your bowling because WA only got 289. That is a modest 1st innings score and should never have been enough for an innings victory. I'd say the Redbacks batsmen need to grab a mirror and take a GHLAT.

[mal]

WESTOZ
Is MAGOFFIN that good ?

We have another post on grade cricket being a SA prob.
I believe WA has 16 teams in grade comp is that too many ?

[westozfalcon]

WESTOZ
Is MAGOFFIN that good ?

We have another post on grade cricket being a SA prob.
I believe WA has 16 teams in grade comp is that too many ?

I'd say there are a couple too many teams in WA mal.

They brought in Rockingham/Mandurah and Joondalup in the last few years which probably diluted the quality of the competition a tad.

Our Grade system hasn't been able to produce good fast bowlers for a long time. Consequently we've resorted to quite a few imported bowlers e.g. Magoffin (QLD), Edmondson (QLD), Brad Williams (Vic), Stuart Karpinnen (ACT) and Matthew Innes (Vic) who is playing for Bayswater/Morley and not doing anything sensational.

Far cry from 15-20 yrs ago when we produced the likes of Chris Matthews, Ken MacLeay, Jo Angel, Bruce Reid and Brendan Julian who all represented Australia in either Test or one-day cricket. You can also throw in Alan Mullally and Martin McCague who played Test cricket for England.

[mal]

WESTOZ
Is MAGOFFIN that good ?

We have another post on grade cricket being a SA prob.
I believe WA has 16 teams in grade comp is that too many ?

I'd say there are a couple too many teams in WA mal.

They brought in Rockingham/Mandurah and Joondalup in the last few years which probably diluted the quality of the competition a tad.

Our Grade system hasn't been able to produce good fast bowlers for a long time. Consequently we've resorted to quite a few imported bowlers e.g. Magoffin (QLD), Edmondson (QLD), Brad Williams (Vic), Stuart Karpinnen (ACT) and Matthew Innes (Vic) who is playing for Bayswater/Morley and not doing anything sensational.

Far cry from 15-20 yrs ago when we produced the likes of Chris Matthews, Ken MacLeay, Jo Angel, Bruce Reid and Brendan Julian who all represented Australia in either Test or one-day cricket. You can also throw in Alan Mullally and Martin McCague who played Test cricket for England.

LILLIE
MASSIE
WAYNE CLARK
SAM GANNON
GARTH MCKENZIE AND LAURIE MAYNE in the 60s-70s

Yes WA had very great fast bowlers until 1995 onwards.
16 teams has too be 2 many by definition.
Do many overseas players play in the comp?

[another grub]

surely flipper has had his chance..... either the kids arent responding or arent up to it...... need a broom!!!!

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't see where the state of cricket in WA has anything to do with this. It's about what can be done to improve SA cricket that matters.

[mal]

I don't see where the state of cricket in WA has anything to do with this. It's about what can be done to improve SA cricket that matters.

There is some relevance AH
They have 16 teams with a similar population base and have perhaps underachieved
in recent times as well as SA
Just comparing notes AH

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't see where the state of cricket in WA has anything to do with this. It's about what can be done to improve SA cricket that matters.

There is some relevance AH
They have 16 teams with a similar population base and have perhaps underachieved
in recent times as well as SA
Just comparing notes AH

I don't know the structure of WA cricket, but we can't just look at 16 teams in WA and say that means 13 in SA is a good idea. The culture of WA may engender 16 clubs who work hard within the system and contribute to the success of their interstate team. Having said that, it is worth noting that the WA team hasn't done much for the past 8 seasons.

Half the clubs in the SA grade system contribute nothing, some of them haven't been worth a damn for longer than I care to remember. There is a real social atmosphere to watching some Grade matches, and it is unacceptable.

Also, at least WA have an even number of teams. How amateurish is having a bye? Imagine if you are a batsman trying to make the Pura Cup team. This scenario could actually occur under the current system:

Dec 9: Bat on day , round 6
Dec 16: fielding day 2, round 6: no hit
Dec 23: round 7, match abandoned, pitch underprepared: no hit
Dec 30: Christmas break: no hit
Jan 6: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 7: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 13: fielding day 1, round 9: no hit
Jan 20: round 9 day 2, rain washes out play: no hit
Jan 27: round 10 day 1, fielding: no hit
Feb 3: round 10 day 2, Batting!!!

This player goes for nearly 2 full months without a hit in the middle. What ... a .... joke!!! No hit at all from rounds 7, 8 & 9. Can you imagine the frustration of a young batsman in these circumstances when he's trying to put his name in front of the selectors?

The whole structure of SA cricket is laughable at present, and time for the SACA to take a serious look at what can be done to alter a farcical situation.

[Rik E Boy]

WESTOZ
Is MAGOFFIN that good ?

We have another post on grade cricket being a SA prob.
I believe WA has 16 teams in grade comp is that too many ?

I'd say there are a couple too many teams in WA mal.

They brought in Rockingham/Mandurah and Joondalup in the last few years which probably diluted the quality of the competition a tad.

Our Grade system hasn't been able to produce good fast bowlers for a long time. Consequently we've resorted to quite a few imported bowlers e.g. Magoffin (QLD), Edmondson (QLD), Brad Williams (Vic), Stuart Karpinnen (ACT) and Matthew Innes (Vic) who is playing for Bayswater/Morley and not doing anything sensational.

Far cry from 15-20 yrs ago when we produced the likes of Chris Matthews, Ken MacLeay, Jo Angel, Bruce Reid and Brendan Julian who all represented Australia in either Test or one-day cricket. You can also throw in Alan Mullally and Martin McCague who played Test cricket for England.

Some top insight into WA cricket here Westoz. I didn't realise that Edmondson was a Qlder as well. As for your 'far cry' list, only Reid was top shelf IMO. But then again you did produce Australia's premier fast and swing bowlers in the West.

regards,

REB

[heater31]

Dec 9: Bat on day , round 6
Dec 16: fielding day 2, round 6: no hit
Dec 23: round 7, match abandoned, pitch underprepared: no hit
Dec 30: Christmas break: no hit
Jan 6: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 7: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 13: fielding day 1, round 9: no hit
Jan 20: round 9 day 2, rain washes out play: no hit
Jan 27: round 10 day 1, fielding: no hit
Feb 3: round 10 day 2, Batting!!!

Have to Disagree there AH the One day comp has been expanded to 11 games if you make the final which is almost an entire season played on Sundays. So the weeks that you dont bat in the 2 dayers, you should be getting a hit in the OD games. That should be enough to keep the form up for Pura Cup selection and if the selectors have any brains consider it for either first class side

[Adelaide Hawk]

Dec 9: Bat on day , round 6
Dec 16: fielding day 2, round 6: no hit
Dec 23: round 7, match abandoned, pitch underprepared: no hit
Dec 30: Christmas break: no hit
Jan 6: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 7: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 13: fielding day 1, round 9: no hit
Jan 20: round 9 day 2, rain washes out play: no hit
Jan 27: round 10 day 1, fielding: no hit
Feb 3: round 10 day 2, Batting!!!

Have to Disagree there AH the One day comp has been expanded to 11 games if you make the final which is almost an entire season played on Sundays. So the weeks that you dont bat in the 2 dayers, you should be getting a hit in the OD games. That should be enough to keep the form up for Pura Cup selection and if the selectors have any brains consider it for either first class side

I'm talking about REAL cricket, not limited over?restricted field placement cricket.

[heater31]

Dec 9: Bat on day , round 6
Dec 16: fielding day 2, round 6: no hit
Dec 23: round 7, match abandoned, pitch underprepared: no hit
Dec 30: Christmas break: no hit
Jan 6: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 7: Bye, round 8: no hit
Jan 13: fielding day 1, round 9: no hit
Jan 20: round 9 day 2, rain washes out play: no hit
Jan 27: round 10 day 1, fielding: no hit
Feb 3: round 10 day 2, Batting!!!

Have to Disagree there AH the One day comp has been expanded to 11 games if you make the final which is almost an entire season played on Sundays. So the weeks that you dont bat in the 2 dayers, you should be getting a hit in the OD games. That should be enough to keep the form up for Pura Cup selection and if the selectors have any brains consider it for either first class side

I'm talking about REAL cricket, not limited over?restricted field placement cricket.

but they dont go without a hit for 2 months as they back up on Sundays and get time out in the middle. its better to get a hit in any form of the game than not at all. When the time comes then they can put the score on the board