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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby dedja » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:23 pm

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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Media Park » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:26 pm

The Big Issue in world cricket is the dominance of the Afro-Asia bloc of nations that have such an overriding influence in what occurs.

There will be no repercussions... Except the ban/fine that PCB will hand out, which they will eventually rescind...
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby jackpot jim » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:28 pm

I'm a bit confused as to why this player manager match fixer bloke spills his guts for $$$$$$ to a newspaper knowing then that it's all gonna come out in the open?
Surely if he was on such a good thing, you'd think him and the players would be doing every thing to keep it hush, hush, not go telling the media for a few extra few hundred grand when they can make millions :? :?

How about the English players? How do you win 3 Tests by a Trillion runs and then lose the other ? :roll:
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby dedja » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:31 pm

Errrr, JJ, he didn't know that they were media and that he was being filmed. #-o
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby heater31 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:18 pm

jackpot jim wrote:I'm a bit confused as to why this player manager match fixer bloke spills his guts for $$$$$$ to a newspaper knowing then that it's all gonna come out in the open?
Surely if he was on such a good thing, you'd think him and the players would be doing every thing to keep it hush, hush, not go telling the media for a few extra few hundred grand when they can make millions :? :?

How about the English players? How do you win 3 Tests by a Trillion runs and then lose the other ? :roll:



News of the World set him up big time. They claimed to be an interested party in placing bets for the alleged events to happen.

That Sydney Test the Aussies were on toast and they were cruising to victory. Next thing you know they put up a defensive field and bowled pies to Hussey and co. The rat began to smell when they folded for bugger all and ultimately lost the test. If ever a Match was fixed on Australian Soil then is was it and Anyone who flatly denies that it was is deluded [-X :oops: 8-[
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Media Park » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:40 pm

Absolutely right Heater.

That sort of "sports entertainment" belongs in the wrestling ring, where we all know it's a load of bollocks, not on the so-called "field of honour."
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby spell_check » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:26 pm

Rashid Latif was also another victim of PCB for telling the truth:

http://cricket.rediff.com/report/2010/a ... rs-ago.htm
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby norm11 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:16 am

Why else would Afridi quit half way through a test series? Salmon Butt put in his place cause he would play the game
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Gozu » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:32 am

I read Craddock say today he thinks these Pakistani players should be banned for life. I think it would be a real shame to see a great young player like Amir banned for life. You have to look at why these things happen and it's too easy to 100% blame the players. In Pakistan they relatively speaking get paid bugger all I read somewhere that young guys like Amir are on around $50K a year plus they can't top up that income by playing in the IPL. Here guys like Shaun Tait make a good $700K a year without even needing to play Test cricket. I think CA base contracts start at $230K even if you never play a game.

If you were in the shoes of some of these young Pakistani cricketers and some character offers you $200K to bowl a no-ball in the third over or something I'm almost certain most of us would do it. I think there is a difference between throwing a match and doing something like bowling a no-ball in a match you're getting killed in anyway. The structure of Pakistani cricket needs to be seriously looked at from the top down so their players aren't tempted by these dodgy characters and the ICC should (hopefully) over turn the BCCI's ban on allowing Pakistani players to play in the IPL which is disgraceful.
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:15 am

Gozu wrote:I read Craddock say today he thinks these Pakistani players should be banned for life. I think it would be a real shame to see a great young player like Amir banned for life. You have to look at why these things happen and it's too easy to 100% blame the players. In Pakistan they relatively speaking get paid bugger all I read somewhere that young guys like Amir are on around $50K a year plus they can't top up that income by playing in the IPL. Here guys like Shaun Tait make a good $700K a year without even needing to play Test cricket. I think CA base contracts start at $230K even if you never play a game.

If you were in the shoes of some of these young Pakistani cricketers and some character offers you $200K to bowl a no-ball in the third over or something I'm almost certain most of us would do it. I think there is a difference between throwing a match and doing something like bowling a no-ball in a match you're getting killed in anyway. The structure of Pakistani cricket needs to be seriously looked at from the top down so their players aren't tempted by these dodgy characters and the ICC should (hopefully) over turn the BCCI's ban on allowing Pakistani players to play in the IPL which is disgraceful.


Yeah, we'd do it, and it would still be wrong. 50 Grand a year goes a long way in a poor country like Pakistan. Are you saying we should feel sorry for Amir? My sympathy goes to the Pakistanis who have nothing and lost that in the recent flooding that has devastated their country.

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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Media Park » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:13 am

Amen REB...

On the CRICKETERS though...

I feel sorry for the second-tier players who don't quite make the side, who want nothing more than to play for their country, for the pride and honour of it, who realise that 50K is a hell of a lot of money...


and the flood victims too!
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby The Jack » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:07 pm

I'd suggest that those blokes are about to get their chance...
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby The Jack » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:08 pm

Assuming their country isn't suspended from all competition! Which is possible.
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby smac » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:30 pm

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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Gozu » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:01 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Yeah, we'd do it, and it would still be wrong. 50 Grand a year goes a long way in a poor country like Pakistan. Are you saying we should feel sorry for Amir? My sympathy goes to the Pakistanis who have nothing and lost that in the recent flooding that has devastated their country.

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I'm not saying it's right or we should feel sorry for Amir but perhaps to think about the situation they're in. It's easy for dropkicks like Matty Hayden to come out and sink the boot into them when he's probably made more than $1m a year for the last decade. You're right $50K would go a lot further over there than here but what if he wants to leave that hell hole and live in England? What if he has a g/f and they want to start a family and he wants to give them a better start? I'm just saying not everything is black or white but I must admit I have lost a bit of love for the sport after this, I think the whole thing is very sad. And of course I too have far more sympathy for all the poor people whos lives have been destroyed by those floods than for any professional cricketer.
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Postby Media Park » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:08 pm

smac wrote:http://www.news.com.au/world/pakistani-cricketers-may-face-death-penalty/story-e6frfkyi-1225912300948

That'll slow 'em down a litte...


Jesus! That's a little extreme!
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:33 pm

When the Aussies defeated Pakistan in Sydney last summer I was in New Zealand on a family holiday. I saw the results on the news and went Crazy I was so excited we won, but....

The first thing I thought when I heard the result was- Pakistan have throw the match, no doubt about it. No one agreed with me, saying that the Aussies havd simply outplayed them.

Then there were a few other matches envolving Pakistan that I watched and the same thought pooped into my mind, I was probably influenced by incidences that have happened before. But no, it's all true and it really dosen't come as a surprise for me.

Pakistan cricket is unbelievably corrupt and an absolute disgrace. Even Mohammad Amir, an 18 year old kid almost the same age as me, is involved in match fixing, that is shocking.

Throw them out of the ICC now and be done with it.
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Media Park » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:19 pm

Just read up a tad on Mohammed Amir, the dubiously considered 18 year old...

http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakis ... 90948.html

They had better update his bio to "former pace prospect."

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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby bayman » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:54 pm

bob woolmer (rip) remember him ?, with all this coming out i just wonder to myself whether there was a bit of skull duggery about his untimely death :? :?
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Re: Pakistan match fixing

Postby Media Park » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:02 pm

just reading on cricinfo that one of the names being floated around to sub into the one day squad was Danish Kaneria...

Now he wouldn't come in for a quick, which implicated a slow bowler as one of the seven offenders...

problem is that Kaneria would miss the first ODI by three days, since he is on "bail" following a previous "spot-fixing" conviction... :roll:
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