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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby MOHAMMAD » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:19 am

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JDizzle wrote:Johnson's first year at ango- they finished bottom. some gun players came home;pech, harvey and a few others that made them stronger the following year. That year they finished 6th and ango did not re-appoint him because of his lack of coaching ability. His first year at maccy came with about 15 changes to the A grade side with about 3 or 4 that he brought with him and they still finished 6th or 7th. This year his coaching has been at all time low especially without jamie braidwood(i think his name is). he used to stop johnson form making 75 different position changes a quarter. On paper i think macclesfield had a reasonably strong team. For them to go out in the first final tells me they definitely under achieved. Many weeks they were outcoached, particularly 1st gumeracha game where johnson was arguing with gum's players as opposed to watching the game. I haven't seen Maccy train this year but from what i'm told training is pathetic. Straight through hand passes changed to kicking, goal kicking then time to hit the showers-Not a proper A grade training session. Johnno brought some good players to the club but he can not coach. perhaps he should be involved in a club as a footy recruiter or scout or something that isnt anything to do with coaching.
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Will correct you on a few things mate firstly in johnsons 2nd year at angaston they finished 5th not 6th (blg play top 4) definately a shame jamie wasnt on board this year altho his health hasnt been real flash thats the reason he wasnt on board this year. Trainings this year were s***thouse & thats because nobody turned up half the time alot of players from town made it hard to get consistent numbers on the track. I will be very interested to see what players maccy can recruit next year & it aint exactly an enjoyable drive up there after work as far as underachieving well we were never going to finish higher than 5th imo gumeracha particulary added recruits throughout the year which we did not for example hanna & aguis did not play against us the first time round both very good footballers imo

KOS, is Johnston off to Willaston in the BL&G?
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby has been » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:21 am

Not a mention about SJ as a coach being able to develop young players. Always metion about recruiting players. Anybody can improve by doing that. Appoint at your peril.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby king of smoo » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:15 pm

KOS, is Johnston off to Willaston in the BL&G?[/quote]

Very doubtful i would think & ollie hasnt been given the boot just yet from what i can gather
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby king of smoo » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:23 pm

has been wrote:Not a mention about SJ as a coach being able to develop young players. Always metion about recruiting players. Anybody can improve by doing that. Appoint at your peril.



Bulls**t maccy played plenty of kids & they will be better for it one of the highlights of the year was the game against meadows in which we won by 1 point a 16 year old kicked the winning goal
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby has been » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:20 pm

King of smoo.......... what kind of a name is that. Are you serious ? Are you the love child of SJ ?
No disrespect KOS but my 10 year old grandson could kick a goal against meadows. What a great contest that would have been. Can you pop a video highlights real on youtube for us please. I better get back to my coco pops.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Choccies » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:55 pm

king of smoo wrote:
has been wrote:Not a mention about SJ as a coach being able to develop young players. Always metion about recruiting players. Anybody can improve by doing that. Appoint at your peril.



Bulls**t maccy played plenty of kids & they will be better for it one of the highlights of the year was the game against meadows in which we won by 1 point a 16 year old kicked the winning goal


When he 'coached' us, plenty of kids ended up playing A's because he alienated a fair percentage of the senior A grade playing group who ended up chosing to play in a lower grade away from him. So I wouldn't think that's a fair analysis of the situation.... yes playing some young kids when they are ready to is a great thing, but playing them because no-one else wants to, aint so great...
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby The Duke » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:01 pm

Choccies wrote:
king of smoo wrote:
has been wrote:Not a mention about SJ as a coach being able to develop young players. Always metion about recruiting players. Anybody can improve by doing that. Appoint at your peril.



Bulls**t maccy played plenty of kids & they will be better for it one of the highlights of the year was the game against meadows in which we won by 1 point a 16 year old kicked the winning goal


When he 'coached' us, plenty of kids ended up playing A's because he alienated a fair percentage of the senior A grade playing group who ended up chosing to play in a lower grade away from him. So I wouldn't think that's a fair analysis of the situation.... yes playing some young kids when they are ready to is a great thing, but playing them because no-one else wants to, aint so great...

Or on the other hand, there are players who want to play, but can't get a game Choccies.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby The Panther » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:34 pm

We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby king of smoo » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:40 pm

has been wrote:King of smoo.......... what kind of a name is that. Are you serious ? Are you the love child of SJ ?
No disrespect KOS but my 10 year old grandson could kick a goal against meadows. What a great contest that would have been. Can you pop a video highlights real on youtube for us please. I better get back to my coco pops.


Was a great contest mate even better that we won by a point the look on big chaddy dawes face was priceless!!!
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Media Park » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:50 pm

Raise the bat King of Smoo! :D
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:20 pm

The Panther wrote:We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.


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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby UNDERthePACK » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:27 am

king of smoo wrote:
has been wrote:King of smoo.......... what kind of a name is that. Are you serious ? Are you the love child of SJ ?
No disrespect KOS but my 10 year old grandson could kick a goal against meadows. What a great contest that would have been. Can you pop a video highlights real on youtube for us please. I better get back to my coco pops.


Was a great contest mate even better that we won by a point the look on big chaddy dawes face was priceless!!!


Just like your Cricketing days KOS. Been dropped a few times on your way to reaching the ton
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Half Back » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:44 am

daysofourlives wrote:
The Panther wrote:We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.


Or for Birdwood, Angaston and Macclesfield


some people really dont know how to get over the past.
if you want to talk about coaches who werent the right fit the guy before johnno at maccy, shane mitchell was a joke. he helped them to the bottom of the ladder, think they even lost to callington that year.
noone can deny that johnno helped improve maccy. surely clubs know what he is like as a person before they take him on as a coach. people do talk. as long as maccy can now find a coach and a few more players who can improve them from 5th spot.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Choccies » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:27 am

The Panther wrote:We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.


Correct I don't like the guy, but I reckon the point I made is a valid one and purely an observation of what happened with us and other clubs he has been at. You're not his mother or his girlfriend by chance Panther ??
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Stewie Griffin » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:06 pm

Under the pack........telling the King of Smoo he has been dropped a few times on the way to a ton,
Sounds like someone who lives in a glass-house running around with a handful of rocks I think.
Next Daysofour lives will be chiming in....he gets dropped every 4th ball.
I fear a coaching set-up that is Johnno without Jamie Braidwood, hope he is well or getting well,
he was the level head that SJ needed next to him and the only reason I kept playing under Johnno.
Was still an un-enjoyable experience.
He will certainly bring out some emotions in players, but I would say that some juniors who played seniors
at Angaston under him regressed whilst he was there more than improved.
His flashing lights and party popper approach pre-game wears thin way too fast.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby king of smoo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:05 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote:Under the pack........telling the King of Smoo he has been dropped a few times on the way to a ton,
Sounds like someone who lives in a glass-house running around with a handful of rocks I think.
Next Daysofour lives will be chiming in....he gets dropped every 4th ball.
I fear a coaching set-up that is Johnno without Jamie Braidwood, hope he is well or getting well,
he was the level head that SJ needed next to him and the only reason I kept playing under Johnno.
Was still an un-enjoyable experience.
He will certainly bring out some emotions in players, but I would say that some juniors who played seniors
at Angaston under him regressed whilst he was there more than improved.
His flashing lights and party popper approach pre-game wears thin way too fast.



Stewie we will worry about the cricket season when it comes around but i will say anyone that has managed to crack a ton usually does get dropped at least once :) i have missed jamies coaching / presence around the club this year imo he probably would have made a pretty good a grade coach in regards to juniors that were coached under johno at angaston i will name a couple that i thought def improved out of sight when he was coaching there they being john roesler & brett woodards this year at maccy he gave plenty of juniors a crack some improved some didnt the only ones that didnt have the crack were the ones that didnt train ( maccys u/17s folded half through the year ) or just werent interested in playing a grade footy
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby TEX07 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:13 pm

Choccies wrote:
The Panther wrote:We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.


Correct I don't like the guy, but I reckon the point I made is a valid one and purely an observation of what happened with us and other clubs he has been at. You're not his mother or his girlfriend by chance Panther ??


I have seen commenst about him not being the "right fit" at every club he has made an "impact" on, this is not just at GGFC. GGFC have moved on and had great success, he has moved on to two clubs now possibly a third in that time with little success. The only reason both myself and Choccies even comment is mainly becuase every time his record is mentioned it nearly always leaves out the wooden spoon he took GGFC to in 2006. When you are talking about someones credentials you should be presented with all the facts.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Stewie Griffin » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:30 pm

John Roesler was always gonna be a good senior player,
as soon as he got his weight above 14kg.
He and Brett were both excellent juniors, so saying Johnno helped them improve,
is like claiming he helped a weed grow, was always gonna get there on its own anyway.
I remember when you made 150 King of, you got dropped 36 times,
was like watching the Phil Tuffnell 11 in the field.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby king of smoo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:38 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote:John Roesler was always gonna be a good senior player,
as soon as he got his weight above 14kg.
He and Brett were both excellent juniors, so saying Johnno helped them improve,
is like claiming he helped a weed grow, was always gonna get there on its own anyway.
I remember when you made 150 King of, you got dropped 36 times,
was like watching the Phil Tuffnell 11 in the field.


I wont disagree with you there i just thought he helped with both of their development so to speak & gave them an opportunity in positions where other coaches may not have their achievements speak for themselves! 36 times jesus! an exaggeration but yes i had a lucky day :)
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby The Panther » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:55 pm

Choccies wrote:
The Panther wrote:We get it choccies , you don't like the guy and he obviously wasn't the right fit for Golden Grove. This doesn't mean he isn't the right fit for other football clubs.


Correct I don't like the guy, but I reckon the point I made is a valid one and purely an observation of what happened with us and other clubs he has been at. You're not his mother or his girlfriend by chance Panther ??


Just over the fact that every time his name comes up , its followed by a post from you about how average you think he is. as i said WE GET IT. As far as i know Golden Grove has never played in country div hills.
I have listened to his 1/4 time talks and played in teams against his sides, that's as well as i know him.
Apart from Golden Grove if you go on results then sides have in regards of position improved - mind you, i understand that this is very rarely an indication of the quality of coach.
Lets move on - Johnson has left the hills as far as we know and Maccy is out for 2010.
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