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Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:54 pm

Why wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least cited for his late hit last Saturday?

Look, I did not have a problem with it and it should not have even been a free but Nick Salter was suspended for an almost identical incident earlier in the year (in fact his was probably slightly more in the "play") and he did not even have a free kick awarded against him.

I would like to see the SANFL MRP more answerable than they are. They are faceless and unaccountable.

Not happy.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby CENTURION » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:58 pm

The question should be, why was Nick Salter suspended?
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:59 pm

Well I think that is what I was politely trying to say. I concur. And he had no right of appeal. What sort of system is that?
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby am Bays » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:01 pm

CENTURION wrote:The question should be, why was Nick Salter suspended?

Agreed and Todd Grima in the Rd four clash against North.

Mckenzie has been treated appropriately.

Finally the SANFL MRP got it right.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:19 pm

I didn't see the Salter one, but they got the McKenzie absolutely spot on. Free down the field, that's all she wrote.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:32 pm

As you said at the time ML, Thring had an opportunity to do something different too, he left himself open to the challenge of being hit, which, in the old days, was the chance you took.
McKenzie and Lewis had no real option but to collide, and McKenzie was stationery.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:44 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:and McKenzie was stationery.
I must have been watching a different channel to you - I was on channel 2 ;)
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Mickyj » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:51 pm

Look I think he should have been citied and then gotten off.
I have a problem with one particular man in white .Who keeps reporting Grocke for far less than what Buckets did .And yes he was umpiring Saturday.
Perhaps he may get a seconds gig this weekend the man in white that is.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:27 pm

MagareyLegend wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:and McKenzie was stationery.
I must have been watching a different channel to you - I was on channel 2 ;)


Yep, he certainly wasn't stationery, he could have avoided contact but elected not to. Free down the ground .. no report. For a change, the umpires were spot on.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby lesthemechanic » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:37 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I didn't see the Salter one, but they got the McKenzie absolutely spot on. Free down the field, that's all she wrote.

I agree with this comment. It was a free kick, that is all & case closed.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Groucho » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:21 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:As you said at the time ML, Thring had an opportunity to do something different too, he left himself open to the challenge of being hit, which, in the old days, was the chance you took.
McKenzie and Lewis had no real option but to collide, and McKenzie was stationery.


Was he Officeworks or W C Penfolds? :) Surely you mean he was stationary, as in not moving.

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stationery = paper, pens etc
staionary = the train was stopped at the station

Here endeth the lesson. Enjoy!
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:28 pm

Ok I'll say it slowly.
I do not have a problem with no action on Buckets.
Salters' & Grima's were wrong and imagine if that happened on GF eve - there would be no recourse. These MRP people are old and incompetent and not independent. I know some of them and no surprises which club(s) they are aligned to.
At the very least there should some sort of an appeal process.
In Salters case he did nothing wrong and it impacted on his AFL career just because of some old codger with another agenda - that will do I've probably said too much already.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby am Bays » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:54 pm

MagareyLegend wrote:Ok I'll say it slowly.
I do not have a problem with no action on Buckets.
Salters' & Grima's were wrong and imagine if that happened on GF eve - there would be no recourse. These MRP people are old and incompetent and not independent. I know some of them and no surprises which club(s) they are aligned to.
At the very least there should some sort of an appeal process.
In Salters case he did nothing wrong and it impacted on his AFL career just because of some old codger with another agenda - that will do I've probably said too much already.


Glenelg considered appealing the Grima decision but because the MRP laid the charge based on the only vision/video available it was decided not to pursue it as there would have been no additional evidence to counter the tribunals findings. With the limited vision available clubs are caught ebtween a rock and a hard place if the tribunal upholds any match review panel charge.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby bayman » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:18 pm

if a very valuable player got reported & suspended in a winning 2nd semi team or the winning preliminary final team....the name andrew dunkley sound familiar ? because i'd do that if i was in charge of a club who was going to lose one of their best players
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Mad Mat » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:47 pm

Groucho wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:As you said at the time ML, Thring had an opportunity to do something different too, he left himself open to the challenge of being hit, which, in the old days, was the chance you took.
McKenzie and Lewis had no real option but to collide, and McKenzie was stationery.


Was he Officeworks or W C Penfolds? :) Surely you mean he was stationary, as in not moving.

People
stationery = paper, pens etc
staion[b]ary [/b]= the train was stopped at the station

Here endeth the lesson. Enjoy!


Mmmm, thanks for the lesson I can now add a new word to my vocabulary ;)
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby spell_check » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:11 pm

Groucho wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:As you said at the time ML, Thring had an opportunity to do something different too, he left himself open to the challenge of being hit, which, in the old days, was the chance you took.
McKenzie and Lewis had no real option but to collide, and McKenzie was stationery.


Was he Officeworks or W C Penfolds? :) Surely you mean he was stationary, as in not moving.

People
stationery = paper, pens etc
staionary = the train was stopped at the station

Here endeth the lesson. Enjoy!


You forgot the colon after "People".
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:23 pm

Groucho wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:As you said at the time ML, Thring had an opportunity to do something different too, he left himself open to the challenge of being hit, which, in the old days, was the chance you took.
McKenzie and Lewis had no real option but to collide, and McKenzie was stationery.


Was he Officeworks or W C Penfolds? :) Surely you mean he was stationary, as in not moving.

People
stationery = paper, pens etc
staionary = the train was stopped at the station

Here endeth the lesson. Enjoy!


Thanks Groucho, grammar is not my strong point. Counting (free kicks) is. ;)
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby Groucho » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:51 pm

:lol: Good one FlyingHigh.
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby jim5112 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:32 am

Salter was running straight at him -- was he supposed to step out of the way?
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Re: Why Wasn't Buckets Mackenzie at least Cited?

Postby doggies4eva » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:33 am

So if Buckets was stationary - and the replay shows that he was. That means that the Eagles player disposed of the ball and then charged into him. So the free should have been paid to buckets :D

Maybe the Eagles palyer should have been reported for charging.

But seriously I think that there is now a tendency for players to dispose of the ball and then try and draw some sort of contact to milk a down the ground free. When the contact is instigated by the player whp has disposed of the ball then clearly they are just playing for a free.
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