HFL Division 2 (Country)

[The Panther]

I think has gone past the stage of "helping Cally out"...when the presidents son wants to play elsewhere I think they beyond help.

This is my first post post here although a long time reader. Very informative site, always great reading. I couldnt resist any longer from making a comment about Callington, I have lived here for 30 plus years and I have to say that you have to live here to know what goes on at that footy club. Townies wont be put out by the change of name (reversion to original one), as we dont want them anymore and they aparently dont want us either. For years there have been no notices around town about any of the clubs doings, no 'players wanted', no training times, nothing. Its as though we dont exist and we dont know anyone that plays there.
From my point of view it used to be a great club, well run by people with heart, class players, good coaches etc, we were pretty chuffed as a town. 6 or 7 years ago now the wheels fell off, the club went their own way, they kicked out everybody that cared because those people didnt want hasbeens paid more than many of us get in a week, to just stand in goalsquares for 100 minutes.
Both my sons play elsewhere when once they used to live for the day they were old enough to get on an eagles jumper and be out there.
And as for 'helping them out', many have tried but its been rejected, they listen to no-one and go their own way. The only thing anyone knows about the eagles these days is a chook raffle at the local, or seeing players in there when they should be at training, its a joke. Just ask us locals.
RIP eagles I say.

Welcome Droversdog,

You are or were obviously once passionate about your communities football club.
Despite all the negatives that have occured over the last 6 or 7 years to your towns football club, i always believe that things can be turned around if there is enough people that are genuinely committed to the cause. If the people of Callington feel that their club has been taken away from them , then do something about it. As a group join as members and nominate as a group to become the committee. Then do the hard work and put into action the types of things you feel will get your communities football club back on track.
"From little things, big things grow".

[aceman]

I think has gone past the stage of "helping Cally out"...when the presidents son wants to play elsewhere I think they beyond help.

This is my first post post here although a long time reader. Very informative site, always great reading. I couldnt resist any longer from making a comment about Callington, I have lived here for 30 plus years and I have to say that you have to live here to know what goes on at that footy club. Townies wont be put out by the change of name (reversion to original one), as we dont want them anymore and they aparently dont want us either. For years there have been no notices around town about any of the clubs doings, no 'players wanted', no training times, nothing. Its as though we dont exist and we dont know anyone that plays there.
From my point of view it used to be a great club, well run by people with heart, class players, good coaches etc, we were pretty chuffed as a town. 6 or 7 years ago now the wheels fell off, the club went their own way, they kicked out everybody that cared because those people didnt want hasbeens paid more than many of us get in a week, to just stand in goalsquares for 100 minutes.
Both my sons play elsewhere when once they used to live for the day they were old enough to get on an eagles jumper and be out there.
And as for 'helping them out', many have tried but its been rejected, they listen to no-one and go their own way. The only thing anyone knows about the eagles these days is a chook raffle at the local, or seeing players in there when they should be at training, its a joke. Just ask us locals.
RIP eagles I say.

Surely if the concerned people attend the right meetings, and put themsleves up to do the job, this can't happen.

[MR FOOTYHEAD]

From the other side of the fence.
Congrats to Gumeracha, out played Maccy particularly in the first half. Total respect to our boys for their effort in the last half when they could have been easily blown out of the water and lost by 20.
On to the head coach. Lacks initiave, communication and teaching skills.
As a playing member of the Macclesfield Footbal Club I have been totally "Disgusted" of the efforts of the A grade coach, "SIMON JOHNSON" aka <edited by mods - don't reveal usernames!>. To not turn up to presentations after an elimination final, stinks. (Always been a front runner)
While Johno will say he pulled Maccy from the bottom of the ladder to the finals, what I will say is all he successfully did is put a divide through the club. The bloke plays favourites, won't talk to half the senior squad or committee members and quite frankly has an inept ability to lead.

Keep your eye out for an article in the Courier about how badly Maccy has treated Johno. Remember the author is his mate and its "Bull Sh*t".

For all those prospective clubs looking for a coach. "TOUCH HIM AT YOUR PERIL"

I went to the game yesterday, not to watch Maccy, but to see SJ audition for a new appointment.
As an impact coach, SJ's the jab in the arm that basket case clubs need to generate success.
In my discussions with SJ, he makes it known that he needs 2 years to repair my club and build a premiership team for someone else to finish off.
I did find that unusual, but to his own admission he made no bones about the fact that impact coaches don’t necessarily make friends, but merely get results and clean up the cancers from within.
Consequently, his resume reads these results with consistency.
"GuessWho" Feedback was that a few supporters wanted to get involved in last Thursday nights team selection in an effort to secure games for some senior players starved of success for the last 25 years.

[The Poacher]

wheres the footy being played this weekend

[The Gimp]

How's this for good sportsmanship !!!!

The mighty Mt Barker under 13's I believe played 2 kids in thier country team in this mornings elimination final against meadows that have played central division all year and played central division yesterday. 2 kids missed out that have played country football all year. Steve the supercoach of the the Roo 13's country team you should be ashamed of yourself and your club. Thank god you are not involved in junior footy at our club. Wonder if the boys that missed out got a Roo Burger for their trouble. Despicable from an arrogant club.

Mount Barker has always done this to the fringe players and they now play for other clubs.

From what I could see on sporting pulse, there were 4 kids that played in both the sat game v Birdwood and the sunday game v meadows.

If so, very poor form from Mt Barker!!

[daysofourlives]

From the other side of the fence.
Congrats to Gumeracha, out played Maccy particularly in the first half. Total respect to our boys for their effort in the last half when they could have been easily blown out of the water and lost by 20.
On to the head coach. Lacks initiave, communication and teaching skills.
As a playing member of the Macclesfield Footbal Club I have been totally "Disgusted" of the efforts of the A grade coach, "SIMON JOHNSON" aka <edited by mods - don't reveal usernames!>. To not turn up to presentations after an elimination final, stinks. (Always been a front runner)
While Johno will say he pulled Maccy from the bottom of the ladder to the finals, what I will say is all he successfully did is put a divide through the club. The bloke plays favourites, won't talk to half the senior squad or committee members and quite frankly has an inept ability to lead.

Keep your eye out for an article in the Courier about how badly Maccy has treated Johno. Remember the author is his mate and its "Bull Sh*t".

For all those prospective clubs looking for a coach. "TOUCH HIM AT YOUR PERIL"[/quote]

SPOT ON guess who, myself and many others on this forum warned the macclesfield footy club. surely there will not be another club willi9ng to take him on.
On the other rumour of him taking up umpiring next year, unfortunately i wont be out of bed in time to see this happen.

[The Poacher]

Why is this considered such a BIGGIE. One team in the under 15's have been playing 5 lads from the under 17.5 all year under permit. This is fair for the kids getting a game, not fair for the kids who got beaten but played in their own grade. It was good for footy as we didnt have a bye/forfeit situation every week. Bend the rules slightly for the betterment of footy, maybe good in one instant, but not in others.

How's this for good sportsmanship !!!!

The mighty Mt Barker under 13's I believe played 2 kids in thier country team in this mornings elimination final against meadows that have played central division all year and played central division yesterday. 2 kids missed out that have played country football all year. Steve the supercoach of the the Roo 13's country team you should be ashamed of yourself and your club. Thank god you are not involved in junior footy at our club. Wonder if the boys that missed out got a Roo Burger for their trouble. Despicable from an arrogant club.

Mount Barker has always done this to the fringe players and they now play for other clubs.

From what I could see on sporting pulse, there were 4 kids that played in both the sat game v Birdwood and the sunday game v meadows.

If so, very poor form from Mt Barker!!

[Droversdog]

Cheers for the welcome, also for the encouragment and advise re Callington. But its all pretty well lost at that club. The only people who could save it are long gone (worn out, p*ssed off) or not wanted and they would soon be driven out/stressed out/ pushed out etc by the attitude there, even if they tried to get on the committee in numbers. I know this sounds negetive but its true. Sometimes you have to just let things go and write if off to experience. Its such a mess that is would take years to sort out anyway.
It seems Callington have had a lot of advise as to what to do including alot of input from knowledgable people here, its there problem if they wont take it.
I personaly would much rather not be having to do long trips to take my kids to another town for training and homegames etc, but they dont want to play for Callington and I dont blame them.

[CK]

Cheers for the welcome, also for the encouragment and advise re Callington. But its all pretty well lost at that club. The only people who could save it are long gone (worn out, p*ssed off) or not wanted and they would soon be driven out/stressed out/ pushed out etc by the attitude there, even if they tried to get on the committee in numbers. I know this sounds negetive but its true. Sometimes you have to just let things go and write if off to experience. Its such a mess that is would take years to sort out anyway.
It seems Callington have had a lot of advise as to what to do including alot of input from knowledgable people here, its there problem if they wont take it.
I personaly would much rather not be having to do long trips to take my kids to another town for training and homegames etc, but they dont want to play for Callington and I dont blame them.

I hate to say it about a club that I was part of from day one, but from afar, there are some astute observations here.

[Jailbird]

Why is this considered such a BIGGIE. One team in the under 15's have been playing 5 lads from the under 17.5 all year under permit. This is fair for the kids getting a game, not fair for the kids who got beaten but played in their own grade. It was good for footy as we didnt have a bye/forfeit situation every week. Bend the rules slightly for the betterment of footy, maybe good in one instant, but not in others.

How's this for good sportsmanship !!!!

The mighty Mt Barker under 13's I believe played 2 kids in thier country team in this mornings elimination final against meadows that have played central division all year and played central division yesterday. 2 kids missed out that have played country football all year. Steve the supercoach of the the Roo 13's country team you should be ashamed of yourself and your club. Thank god you are not involved in junior footy at our club. Wonder if the boys that missed out got a Roo Burger for their trouble. Despicable from an arrogant club.

Mount Barker has always done this to the fringe players and they now play for other clubs.

From what I could see on sporting pulse, there were 4 kids that played in both the sat game v Birdwood and the sunday game v meadows.

If so, very poor form from Mt Barker!!

Gimp, might want to look back a bit further on sporting pulse and see that a few players each week were asked to play in the country division and help the team field the correct numbers. This has happened all year not just on the weekend. Pretty sure you would want to have enough kids running around than having 1and 3/4 teams not playing.

[TEX07]

From the other side of the fence.
Congrats to Gumeracha, out played Maccy particularly in the first half. Total respect to our boys for their effort in the last half when they could have been easily blown out of the water and lost by 20.
On to the head coach. Lacks initiave, communication and teaching skills.
As a playing member of the Macclesfield Footbal Club I have been totally "Disgusted" of the efforts of the A grade coach, "SIMON JOHNSON" aka <edited by mods - don't reveal usernames!>. To not turn up to presentations after an elimination final, stinks. (Always been a front runner)
While Johno will say he pulled Maccy from the bottom of the ladder to the finals, what I will say is all he successfully did is put a divide through the club. The bloke plays favourites, won't talk to half the senior squad or committee members and quite frankly has an inept ability to lead.

Keep your eye out for an article in the Courier about how badly Maccy has treated Johno. Remember the author is his mate and its "Bull Sh*t".

For all those prospective clubs looking for a coach. "TOUCH HIM AT YOUR PERIL"

I went to the game yesterday, not to watch Maccy, but to see SJ audition for a new appointment.
As an impact coach, SJ's the jab in the arm that basket case clubs need to generate success.
In my discussions with SJ, he makes it known that he needs 2 years to repair my club and build a premiership team for someone else to finish off.
I did find that unusual, but to his own admission he made no bones about the fact that impact coaches don’t necessarily make friends, but merely get results and clean up the cancers from within.
Consequently, his resume reads these results with consistency.
"GuessWho" Feedback was that a few supporters wanted to get involved in last Thursday nights team selection in an effort to secure games for some senior players starved of success for the last 25 years.

Pfft, a resume is written by the guy trying to get the job. I would be fairly certain his resume would not mention how he went coaching at SAAFL div 5 in 2006!

When he coached at GGFC in 2006, I was talking to him about comments I had heard off made by Tony Roach when he was coaching div 1, it went something like " he doesnt want invites to 21sts, engagements and weddings. He is not here to be mates, if we win a flag he will then have a beer with you" About two weeks later he was sitting at the bar with about four of us telling ME the following " Like I always say to my players, I dont want to be invited to your 21sts, engagements and weddings. I am not here to make friends, when we win a flag I will then have a beer with you". It was about 30 seconds later the penny dropped and he realised he was telling me a strory about himself that I had told him.

In my opinion, guess who is on the money, do some reaserch before you appoint. If he is what you are after then good luck to you.

[supercoach]

Jailbird, what a load of cr.......p. The 2 kids concerned played 16 games in central all year and 22 where named on the team sheet and 2 missed out. I have seen the team sheets. I know for a fact your coach was questioned about the ethics. The rule for 4 games minimum was introduced to protect kids coming from league clubs or down grades - not be abused for same age, different divisions. Seems you mob lose sight of good and fair sportsmanship when it comes to win at all costs. Good on you meadows for winning.

[The Panther]

I hope the 2 kids who missed out don't leave football all together.
It happens at this time every year - clubs compromising sportsmanship for a finals win , then can't understand why players aren't loyal and leave. Only a few comps have played one week of finals and already have heard 3 interesting stories from 3 different clubs on selection for finals.

My belief play the ones who got you there !

[AKA]

From the other side of the fence.
Congrats to Gumeracha, out played Maccy particularly in the first half. Total respect to our boys for their effort in the last half when they could have been easily blown out of the water and lost by 20.
On to the head coach. Lacks initiave, communication and teaching skills.
As a playing member of the Macclesfield Footbal Club I have been totally "Disgusted" of the efforts of the A grade coach, "SIMON JOHNSON" aka <edited by mods - don't reveal usernames!>. To not turn up to presentations after an elimination final, stinks. (Always been a front runner)
While Johno will say he pulled Maccy from the bottom of the ladder to the finals, what I will say is all he successfully did is put a divide through the club. The bloke plays favourites, won't talk to half the senior squad or committee members and quite frankly has an inept ability to lead.

Keep your eye out for an article in the Courier about how badly Maccy has treated Johno. Remember the author is his mate and its "Bull Sh*t".

For all those prospective clubs looking for a coach. "TOUCH HIM AT YOUR PERIL"

I went to the game yesterday, not to watch Maccy, but to see SJ audition for a new appointment.
As an impact coach, SJ's the jab in the arm that basket case clubs need to generate success.
In my discussions with SJ, he makes it known that he needs 2 years to repair my club and build a premiership team for someone else to finish off.
I did find that unusual, but to his own admission he made no bones about the fact that impact coaches don’t necessarily make friends, but merely get results and clean up the cancers from within.
Consequently, his resume reads these results with consistency.
"GuessWho" Feedback was that a few supporters wanted to get involved in last Thursday nights team selection in an effort to secure games for some senior players starved of success for the last 25 years.

Pfft, a resume is written by the guy trying to get the job. I would be fairly certain his resume would not mention how he went coaching at SAAFL div 5 in 2006!

When he coached at GGFC in 2006, I was talking to him about comments I had heard off made by Tony Roach when he was coaching div 1, it went something like " he doesnt want invites to 21sts, engagements and weddings. He is not here to be mates, if we win a flag he will then have a beer with you" About two weeks later he was sitting at the bar with about four of us telling ME the following " Like I always say to my players, I dont want to be invited to your 21sts, engagements and weddings. I am not here to make friends, when we win a flag I will then have a beer with you". It was about 30 seconds later the penny dropped and he realised he was telling me a strory about himself that I had told him.

In my opinion, guess who is on the money, do some reaserch before you appoint. If he is what you are after then good luck to you.

Funny that! heard the same shit when he was coaching at Salisbury North, things never change.

[Choccies]

From the other side of the fence.
Congrats to Gumeracha, out played Maccy particularly in the first half. Total respect to our boys for their effort in the last half when they could have been easily blown out of the water and lost by 20.
On to the head coach. Lacks initiave, communication and teaching skills.
As a playing member of the Macclesfield Footbal Club I have been totally "Disgusted" of the efforts of the A grade coach, "SIMON JOHNSON" aka <edited by mods - don't reveal usernames!>. To not turn up to presentations after an elimination final, stinks. (Always been a front runner)
While Johno will say he pulled Maccy from the bottom of the ladder to the finals, what I will say is all he successfully did is put a divide through the club. The bloke plays favourites, won't talk to half the senior squad or committee members and quite frankly has an inept ability to lead.

Keep your eye out for an article in the Courier about how badly Maccy has treated Johno. Remember the author is his mate and its "Bull Sh*t".

For all those prospective clubs looking for a coach. "TOUCH HIM AT YOUR PERIL"

I went to the game yesterday, not to watch Maccy, but to see SJ audition for a new appointment.
As an impact coach, SJ's the jab in the arm that basket case clubs need to generate success.
In my discussions with SJ, he makes it known that he needs 2 years to repair my club and build a premiership team for someone else to finish off.
I did find that unusual, but to his own admission he made no bones about the fact that impact coaches don’t necessarily make friends, but merely get results and clean up the cancers from within.
Consequently, his resume reads these results with consistency.
"GuessWho" Feedback was that a few supporters wanted to get involved in last Thursday nights team selection in an effort to secure games for some senior players starved of success for the last 25 years.

MR F HEAD, welcome to hell if thats where you are going for your next coach !!

[The Crumber]

The topics and conversations of the last week or so have been among the best I can recall in several years here. I think this really reflects the value of this forum and the lively, intelligent discussion it provokes. Maybe the powers-that-be need to spend less time worrying about us and more time collating our input as valuable, diverse contributors who clearly have a passion for the game.

[Fat Cat]

I thought SJs coaching record was not to bad Birdwood 2 Grand Finals,Angaston Bottom to just missing the finals and Maccey to the first time in finals in how long?
Some of you guys must not of been invited to his 21st.

[JDizzle]

Johnson's first year at ango- they finished bottom. some gun players came home;pech, harvey and a few others that made them stronger the following year. That year they finished 6th and ango did not re-appoint him because of his lack of coaching ability. His first year at maccy came with about 15 changes to the A grade side with about 3 or 4 that he brought with him and they still finished 6th or 7th. This year his coaching has been at all time low especially without jamie braidwood(i think his name is). he used to stop johnson form making 75 different position changes a quarter. On paper i think macclesfield had a reasonably strong team. For them to go out in the first final tells me they definitely under achieved. Many weeks they were outcoached, particularly 1st gumeracha game where johnson was arguing with gum's players as opposed to watching the game. I haven't seen Maccy train this year but from what i'm told training is pathetic. Straight through hand passes changed to kicking, goal kicking then time to hit the showers-Not a proper A grade training session. Johnno brought some good players to the club but he can not coach. perhaps he should be involved in a club as a footy recruiter or scout or something that isnt anything to do with coaching.
JD

[The Poacher]

wheres the footy being played this weekend

please someone tell me that it is a joke that football is being held at KERSBROOK on saturday, and that the 3 teams from KERSBROOK are playing at MACCLESFIELD oval the next day, please tell me this is not to do with home ground advantage horses*#t, each week for 18 weeks 5 teams have had a homeground advantage. Its the lack of commonsense that gets the better of me, and no Im not from Kersbrook.

[king of smoo]

Johnson's first year at ango- they finished bottom. some gun players came home;pech, harvey and a few others that made them stronger the following year. That year they finished 6th and ango did not re-appoint him because of his lack of coaching ability. His first year at maccy came with about 15 changes to the A grade side with about 3 or 4 that he brought with him and they still finished 6th or 7th. This year his coaching has been at all time low especially without jamie braidwood(i think his name is). he used to stop johnson form making 75 different position changes a quarter. On paper i think macclesfield had a reasonably strong team. For them to go out in the first final tells me they definitely under achieved. Many weeks they were outcoached, particularly 1st gumeracha game where johnson was arguing with gum's players as opposed to watching the game. I haven't seen Maccy train this year but from what i'm told training is pathetic. Straight through hand passes changed to kicking, goal kicking then time to hit the showers-Not a proper A grade training session. Johnno brought some good players to the club but he can not coach. perhaps he should be involved in a club as a footy recruiter or scout or something that isnt anything to do with coaching.
JD

Will correct you on a few things mate firstly in johnsons 2nd year at angaston they finished 5th not 6th (blg play top 4) definately a shame jamie wasnt on board this year altho his health hasnt been real flash thats the reason he wasnt on board this year. Trainings this year were s***thouse & thats because nobody turned up half the time alot of players from town made it hard to get consistent numbers on the track. I will be very interested to see what players maccy can recruit next year & it aint exactly an enjoyable drive up there after work as far as underachieving well we were never going to finish higher than 5th imo gumeracha particulary added recruits throughout the year which we did not for example hanna & aguis did not play against us the first time round both very good footballers imo