south adelaide season review

[hottie]

Looking at injured players every wednesday in advertiser,Souths have seemed to had a long list from start of year.Secondly i do hope Ron Fuller does tough it out and if players do leave then it allows the club hopefully can move move forward,without the board interfering.Remember Glenelg were in the same situation not so long ago.

[Aerie]

Got to give Fuller time. Can make a judgement after 3 seasons where they should be at a point where they've built a strong enough base to push for top 3 heading in to the 4th season. Are SANFL clubs that patient though? Only Glenelg have had a plan and stuck to it in recent times and are bearing the fruit now. If this doesn't work for South - what will?

[am Bays]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/handby-and-panthers-part-ways/story-fn525un5-1225907215731

"There was a bit more to it", according to Handby. A very "South-like" situation unfortunately.

Anyway, the club moves on...

Pyman. That name always opens a can of worms. Rightly or wrongly, he'd lost the players in 2007. Some of the efforts that year were a disgrace.

It will be forever debated what clubs should do in these circumstances. I was against the decision at the time. Pulled out the tape of the 2006 final v Port the other day. It could be argued that he should have gotten more out of that highly talented squad though. Hell, to have half of those names now..

Getting off topic here.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/handby-happy-at-noarlunga/story-e6freckc-1225899104645

LOL!!!

[southee]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/handby-and-panthers-part-ways/story-fn525un5-1225907215731

"There was a bit more to it", according to Handby. A very "South-like" situation unfortunately.

Anyway, the club moves on...

Pyman. That name always opens a can of worms. Rightly or wrongly, he'd lost the players in 2007. Some of the efforts that year were a disgrace.

It will be forever debated what clubs should do in these circumstances. I was against the decision at the time. Pulled out the tape of the 2006 final v Port the other day. It could be argued that he should have gotten more out of that highly talented squad though. Hell, to have half of those names now..

Getting off topic here.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/handby-happy-at-noarlunga/story-e6freckc-1225899104645

LOL!!!

One word - WHY?????

[Freo HeaveHo]

Michael Handby since has left the club i see in a statement on the clubs website

Disappointing that a club vice captain and long time servant of the club would choose to end things like that, especially only with 2 games to go.

Alot more to it than that from what i hear ... fair dinkum shove in the back dont blame him for leaving . From some the stuff im hearing at the moment im really starting to wonder why the hell i ve supported the club for so long. Few others in the same boat as handles to i think.

[The Panther]

Obviously the 2 interstate recruits will need to be absolute guns.

Do the panthers have room in the salary cap to chase players from other clubs within the league?
I think i read Ronnie comment on this somewhere about how he would have to offer more than he feels players are worth to recruit them from other SANFL clubs.
Makes sense though to go after a few as they are proven within the league ( and weaken a few opposition clubs as well ).

I certainly at the time of Fuller's appointment thought it was a good decision and still do. It is dissapointing that the club was in a position where 5 years is seen as what is required to really change things around.
If we step back take a deep breath and have an honest look at the progression so far after nearly 20% of the 5 years gone. I feel the club has taken some big steps forward and certainly made the tough decisions.

My major concern is how far we still have to go. We obviously have major issues in getting quality players in large numbers from our zone up to League level. Then it appears to recruit players whether from interstate or within the sanfl system requires us to pay over the top prices as South is just not an attractive prospect for players.

I certainly don't want to paint a negative picture and wish Ronnie and all involved at the Panthers all the best and every ounce of luck. Most of us South supporters have been waiting all our lives to go and watch our club in a GF so what's another four years.

[darley16]

Seems as a club we are dammed no matter what we do. Pyman was good coach until "disruption" occured amoungst the players and the coach therefore someone had to go. Clay Sampson was the logical and at the time the right decision however his inexperience became clear after 2 seasons and as much as all Southies are fans of Clay the right decision albeit difficult was taken.
At last we have the right coach with all the creditials any SANFL would be seeking, he has been there for one season and has clearly stamped upon all at the club want is demanded if you want success, if you don't, continue the way of the past 10 years. It is clear that injuries and spoilt players of the past who didn't like the changes and sulked away have both impacted our season and inspite of that apart from 3-4 games this team has plenty to offer and to build upon for the coming tenure under Ronnie (and John Reid has been a great allay to Ron and will continue in that understated roll). This year was foundation laying and laying down the law as required, i believe we have much to look forward to...if the AFL doesn't destroy the SANFL in the meantime.

[westcoastpanther]

Seems as a club we are dammed no matter what we do. Pyman was good coach until "disruption" occured amoungst the players and the coach therefore someone had to go. Clay Sampson was the logical and at the time the right decision however his inexperience became clear after 2 seasons and as much as all Southies are fans of Clay the right decision albeit difficult was taken.
At last we have the right coach with all the creditials any SANFL would be seeking, he has been there for one season and has clearly stamped upon all at the club want is demanded if you want success, if you don't, continue the way of the past 10 years. It is clear that injuries and spoilt players of the past who didn't like the changes and sulked away have both impacted our season and inspite of that apart from 3-4 games this team has plenty to offer and to build upon for the coming tenure under Ronnie (and John Reid has been a great allay to Ron and will continue in that understated roll). This year was foundation laying and laying down the law as required, i believe we have much to look forward to...if the AFL doesn't destroy the SANFL in the meantime.

Good to read something like this as a supporter a long way from the club. We need something to hold on to going in to 2011. But no matter what happens, I'll love em....

[CENTURION]

no Warren next year will make things even harder!

[Bunton]

for the reserves maybe ... if club is going to go anywhere, it needs to move past old slow blokes that are clearly no longer interested.

[Sojourner]

In respect to Handby, there are reasons why he was dropped to the Reserves this season and also last season. West Adelaide have made no secret that they are planning to have a go and recruit several key position players for next season, I have my doubts that they will be bothering to go after Handby, although I am more than happy to be proven wrong and wish him all the best if he is fortunate enough to get a go at another SANFL club.

Its easy to look back in retrospect, yet my view has always been that South Adelaide lost the plot and condemned the club to failure when it sacked their most successful coach John Reid because "he had lost the support of the players". It was an absolutely pathetic decision at the club that reeked and was then repeated a number of times between then and now, most notably when Robert Pyman had the very same treatment and the playing group were chosen over the coach that had got the SAFC to a finals campaign, no mean feat when you look at the current situation that the club finds itself in.

South have had no shortage of players that could not care less about the jumper of the club or its colours and that has been our biggest problem in recent years, the sheer number of players that have walked away is a real worry.

The other major issue at South is that of the SFL clubs allocated to the club for recruiting, one of them is a finals playing club, the rest are making up the numbers and regularly vying for the spoon.

Yet I can say that I am 100% behind Ron and his decisions to cut certain players from the club, I think that many in here would agree that Ron has done very well with some of his recruits that would easily be picked for any SANFL club going around. I feel we are a strong chance of recruiting some good players at the end of this season from both interstate and our competitors and for no real reason, still feel quite confident about the direction the club is taking, despite the results on the board so far. Often people are happy to heap it on the SAFC, yet in the last number of seasons, one SANFL club has beaten Central for the flag once, indicating that 7 other SANFL clubs have been the also rans of the SANFL and if its premierships that really matter are in a sense actually no better at all than the SAFC.

[Mickyj]

In respect to Handby, there are reasons why he was dropped to the Reserves this season and also last season. West Adelaide have made no secret that they are planning to have a go and recruit several key position players for next season, I have my doubts that they will be bothering to go after Handby, although I am more than happy to be proven wrong and wish him all the best if he is fortunate enough to get a go at another SANFL club.

Its easy to look back in retrospect, yet my view has always been that South Adelaide lost the plot and condemned the club to failure when it sacked their most successful coach John Reid because "he had lost the support of the players". It was an absolutely pathetic decision at the club that reeked and was then repeated a number of times between then and now, most notably when Robert Pyman had the very same treatment and the playing group were chosen over the coach that had got the SAFC to a finals campaign, no mean feat when you look at the current situation that the club finds itself in.

South have had no shortage of players that could not care less about the jumper of the club or its colours and that has been our biggest problem in recent years, the sheer number of players that have walked away is a real worry.

The other major issue at South is that of the SFL clubs allocated to the club for recruiting, one of them is a finals playing club, the rest are making up the numbers and regularly vying for the spoon.

Yet I can say that I am 100% behind Ron and his decisions to cut certain players from the club, I think that many in here would agree that Ron has done very well with some of his recruits that would easily be picked for any SANFL club going around. I feel we are a strong chance of recruiting some good players at the end of this season from both interstate and our competitors and for no real reason, still feel quite confident about the direction the club is taking, despite the results on the board so far. Often people are happy to heap it on the SAFC, yet in the last number of seasons, one SANFL club has beaten Central for the flag once, indicating that 7 other SANFL clubs have been the also rans of the SANFL and if its premierships that really matter are in a sense actually no better at all than the SAFC.

Nice post
Two clubs have beaten Centrals lately(this century) in a GF
Eagles coached by Ron
Sturt being the other one

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

The other major issue at South is that of the SFL clubs allocated to the club for recruiting, one of them is a finals playing club, the rest are making up the numbers and regularly vying for the spoon.

Correct me if I'm wrong Sojourner, but I thought Morphett Vale, Noarlunga, Pt Noarlunga and Reynella (or most of Reynella's zone anyway) were all in Souths zone, and haven't these clubs all played off in SFL finals in the past few years, including this years?

[bayman]

would ron fuller be interested in 'mouse backwell' ? i know sturt were going to sign him this year before the shoulder injury & i'd imagine that there would be every chance that sturt will want him again next season, having said that south would be in a better position (financially) than sturt, i also know torrens valley is very interested in his services, but going back to the first question would ron be interested in mouse ?

[blueandwhite]

would ron fuller be interested in 'mouse backwell' ? i know sturt were going to sign him this year before the shoulder injury & i'd imagine that there would be every chance that sturt will want him again next season, having said that south would be in a better position (financially) than sturt, i also know torrens valley is very interested in his services, but going back to the first question would ron be interested in mouse ?

No.

[Bunton]

The other major issue at South is that of the SFL clubs allocated to the club for recruiting, one of them is a finals playing club, the rest are making up the numbers and regularly vying for the spoon.

Correct me if I'm wrong Sojourner, but I thought Morphett Vale, Noarlunga, Pt Noarlunga and Reynella (or most of Reynella's zone anyway) were all in Souths zone, and haven't these clubs all played off in SFL finals in the past few years, including this years?

Porties have scraped into a final 8 again this year, as have Noarlunga for the first time in a while. Other 2 have been regulars

I'd suggest what is of more relevance in the junior positons, with three south zones clubs (Hackham, Aldinga and Christies beach) taking the bottom 3 out of 4 spots in all of the 18, 16s and 14s.

[Bunton]

would ron fuller be interested in 'mouse backwell' ? i know sturt were going to sign him this year before the shoulder injury & i'd imagine that there would be every chance that sturt will want him again next season, having said that south would be in a better position (financially) than sturt, i also know torrens valley is very interested in his services, but going back to the first question would ron be interested in mouse ?

You clearly don't know ron fuller

[Bunton]

In respect to Handby, there are reasons why he was dropped to the Reserves this season and also last season. West Adelaide have made no secret that they are planning to have a go and recruit several key position players for next season, I have my doubts that they will be bothering to go after Handby, although I am more than happy to be proven wrong and wish him all the best if he is fortunate enough to get a go at another SANFL club.

Its easy to look back in retrospect, yet my view has always been that South Adelaide lost the plot and condemned the club to failure when it sacked their most successful coach John Reid because "he had lost the support of the players". It was an absolutely pathetic decision at the club that reeked and was then repeated a number of times between then and now, most notably when Robert Pyman had the very same treatment and the playing group were chosen over the coach that had got the SAFC to a finals campaign, no mean feat when you look at the current situation that the club finds itself in.

South have had no shortage of players that could not care less about the jumper of the club or its colours and that has been our biggest problem in recent years, the sheer number of players that have walked away is a real worry.

The other major issue at South is that of the SFL clubs allocated to the club for recruiting, one of them is a finals playing club, the rest are making up the numbers and regularly vying for the spoon.

Yet I can say that I am 100% behind Ron and his decisions to cut certain players from the club, I think that many in here would agree that Ron has done very well with some of his recruits that would easily be picked for any SANFL club going around. I feel we are a strong chance of recruiting some good players at the end of this season from both interstate and our competitors and for no real reason, still feel quite confident about the direction the club is taking, despite the results on the board so far. Often people are happy to heap it on the SAFC, yet in the last number of seasons, one SANFL club has beaten Central for the flag once, indicating that 7 other SANFL clubs have been the also rans of the SANFL and if its premierships that really matter are in a sense actually no better at all than the SAFC.

fair call sojourner - difference betwen Fuller and Pyman, is Fuller has the balls to actually doing somethign about the cancers , before they do something about him. Never easy changing in-grained cultures. If one man can do it - Ron can.

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

I'd suggest what is of more relevance in the junior positons, with three south zones clubs (Hackham, Aldinga and Christies beach) taking the bottom 3 out of 4 spots in all of the 18, 16s and 14s.

I understand your point re Christies, Hackham & Aldinga Bunton. No argument there.

However in U18s Comp I notice that Reynella, Pt Noar & Noarlunga are 4th, 5th & 6th respectively out of 12 teams. The top 3 - Cove, Brighton & Flaggies are pretty strong in this comp.

In U16s Morphett Vale are top, Noarlunga 2nd, then maybe just making up the finals numbers are Reynella 7th, Pt Noar 8th again out of 12 teams.
U14s Morphett Vale are Top, Noarlunga 3rd and Reynella 5th, again out of 12 teams. Not too shabby I reckon.

I hope some strong and specific targetting is planned to help Souths development of junior teams through Morphett Vale and Noarlunga's U18s & U16s to get them involved at an early age. Maybe before they get to used to the "winning culture" that some people say makes it hard to entice kids from these SFL clubs to South Adelaide atm.
I think it's about making them feel a part of the SAFC early, and letting them know there is a pathway available to Reserves and League opportunities that have opened up to other South Adel juniors this year.

[am Bays]

Porties have scraped into a final 8 again this year, as have Noarlunga for the first time in a while. Other 2 have been regulars

I'd suggest what is of more relevance in the junior positons, with three south zones clubs (Hackham, Aldinga and Christies beach) taking the bottom 3 out of 4 spots in all of the 18, 16s and 14s.

But three of the top six in the 18s are in South's zone (Noarlunga, Morphett vale and reynella) so there's talented kids out there for them.