Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

[bazza1]

Heard yesterday that Terry Potts might be moving to Western Youth? Can anyone confirm??

Not that i know off TDK!!

Had heard he owed some $$$ to North Haven anyways. Wasnt he moving to Glenelg Districts??

yeah heard he was going to Glenelg since he lives around the corner.

Can North Haven reject his clearance cause he is unfinacial or dont you need clearances in this comp??

Yes, clearances are required.

[someguy1]

Have just seen the AGM motions, what's people's thought's on the 8 team motion ????

Can someone please tell us what the motions are and also when is the next meeting?

AGM is Tuesday night. Basically the idea is to go to 8 team divisions playing 7 two dayers and 7 one dayers a season. Three options, do this in all grades, from section 3 down or section 5 down. Craig Lawn sent out gradings showing all divisions using the 8 team comp so I'm guessing that is their preference?

Talking to the guys at Morphies looks like the younger guys are in favour of it, the older guys want to leave it the same so not sure how we'll vote yet. I'd be surprised if this gets up in the higher grades but who knows.

Slightly related question, any word on how the association is looking at running the 20/20 comp this year. Leaving it the same or any other options?

[someguy1]

FYI, full motion

Explanatory comments from St George CC relating to motion 6
• Lower sections will generally play 7 two day games and 7 one day games in sections comprising 8 teams.
• Sections 1 and 2 will continue to have 12 teams as they always have had with programming determined by the Association
Lower sections will play only 3 less two day games under this format
Association will determine the section size where the lowest two sections cannot be filled with 8 teams each.
• Facilitates increased playing numbers for those cricketers who have single parenting, work or other family commitments.
• Smaller sections enables more teams to participate in finals and makes for more competitive cricket
• Scheduling of the one day games could be over December – January where traditionally it has been more difficult to fill sides.

Motion 6

Section 26 of Constitution and Special Match Rules under Programme Arrangements

Currently reads;

26. Matches will be played over two days except where either:-

(a) The Executive Committee exercises its discretion in arranging one-day matches to fit in with the available playing dates during the season.

(b) The Executive Committee exercises its discretion in declaring a day's play cancelled or abandoned due to inclement weather or other emergency. In this event, such remaining day of the fixture shall be deemed to be a one-day match and shall be played as such.

REPLACED BY:

26. Scheduling of matches will constitute 14 games via 7 two day games and 7 one day games over 21 weeks with the number of teams in all sections being 8 except:-

(a) Sections 1 & 2 will have 12 teams and scheduled as determined by the Executive Committee.

(b) Where the lowest two sections cannot be filled with 8 teams each, the Executive Committee shall determine the section sizes and the scheduling.


From South Park To be moved only if Motion 6 fails.

Motion 7 Section 26 of the constitution be replaced by:

26 Scheduling of matches will constitute 14 games via 7 two day games and 7 one day games over 21 weeks with the number of teams in all sections being 8 except:

(a) Sections from 1-4 shall have 12 teams and scheduled as determined by the Executive Committee.

(b) Where the lowest two sections cannot be filled with 8 teams each, the Executive Committee shall determine the section sizes and scheduling.

From Keswick

Motion 8 Section 26 of the constitution be replaced by
26. Where possible each Section will contain 8 teams that will be programmed to play 7 two-day games and 7 one-day games. The Executive Committee will use its discretion in accommodating sides in the lower grades and fitting the programme to available playing dates.

[The Dark Knight]

Heard yesterday that Terry Potts might be moving to Western Youth? Can anyone confirm??

Not that i know off TDK!!
Had heard he owed some $$$ to North Haven anyways. Wasnt he moving to Glenelg Districts??

yeah heard he was going to Glenelg since he lives around the corner.
Can North Haven reject his clearance cause he is unfinacial or dont you need clearances in this comp??

Yes, clearances are required.

I forgot about the fact that he's unfinacial. Didn't pay any membership or subs at North Haven and was also helped by the club to get out of Districts aswell apparently. Might owe money somewhere else for all we know. The only way he's going to another club is if his new club pays for him which is why he's not going to Glenelg I reckon.

[Iron Fist]

yeah heard he was going to Glenelg since he lives around the corner.
Can North Haven reject his clearance cause he is unfinacial or dont you need clearances in this comp??

Yes, clearances are required.

I forgot about the fact that he's unfinacial. Didn't pay any membership or subs at North Haven and was also helped by the club to get out of Districts aswell apparently. Might owe money somewhere else for all we know. The only way he's going to another club is if his new club pays for him which is why he's not going to Glenelg I reckon.

Who is the captain of your D grade Dark Knight???
think they only play limited overs stuff??
someone was saying to come out and play that this year
think lipson and wareing and those boys filled in once or twice last season?!

[CoverKing]

well if he was coming to us the financial side wouldn't be getting paid by us! How much did north haven pay districts to clear them??

[Amateur Footy]

Ramblers will not be supporting any of the 8 team motions. If you want a one-day comp make it one-dayers only in the bottom grades and even then I don't guarantee our support. Section 1 needs to stay as 2 day games for decent cricket and who wants to go down to section 2? More grades = more premierships so not as hard to win one. Also don't want to be selecting players for 2 dayers in top sections and doing extra selection weeks for lower grades - we like the current situation of alternate weeks for training + selection and the other for just training in all grades.

[CoverKing]

Ramblers will not be supporting any of the 8 team motions. If you want a one-day comp make it one-dayers only in the bottom grades and even then I don't guarantee our support. Section 1 needs to stay as 2 day games for decent cricket and who wants to go down to section 2? More grades = more premierships so not as hard to win one. Also don't want to be selecting players for 2 dayers in top sections and doing extra selection weeks for lower grades - we like the current situation of alternate weeks for training + selection and the other for just training in all grades.

completely agree AF and western youth will be in the same
boat!! 8 team comp is a joke, which means we might aswell move to a 6 team comp like southern! Load of carp this motion IMO! If it gets through I will seriously consider leaving to a 2 day comp

[The Dark Knight]

Can North Haven reject his clearance cause he is unfinacial or dont you need clearances in this comp??

Yes, clearances are required.

I forgot about the fact that he's unfinacial. Didn't pay any membership or subs at North Haven and was also helped by the club to get out of Districts aswell apparently. Might owe money somewhere else for all we know. The only way he's going to another club is if his new club pays for him which is why he's not going to Glenelg I reckon.

Who is the captain of your D grade Dark Knight???
think they only play limited overs stuff??
someone was saying to come out and play that this year
think lipson and wareing and those boys filled in once or twice last season?!

Karl Quirk was last season and I'm prety sure he'll do it again. They do play 2 day cricket as the fixture and dates of matches are the same throughout all of the grades. Yeah, Lippo and Wareing played a couple of games last season in the D grade.

[Gowser]

Ramblers will not be supporting any of the 8 team motions. If you want a one-day comp make it one-dayers only in the bottom grades and even then I don't guarantee our support. Section 1 needs to stay as 2 day games for decent cricket and who wants to go down to section 2? More grades = more premierships so not as hard to win one. Also don't want to be selecting players for 2 dayers in top sections and doing extra selection weeks for lower grades - we like the current situation of alternate weeks for training + selection and the other for just training in all grades.

Your logic is flawed.
7 one-day games + 7 two-day games, does not equal a one-day comp. It is only 3 less two-day games than we currently play (I think last year we only played 8 two-day games, due to weather). If you do the maths this format actually equates to potentially more overs of cricket per season.
More grades does not equate to 'more premierships'. Clubs will still have the same number of teams and in theory premierships should be 'harder' to win as the gap between the strong teams and weaker teams in each section will be much smaller.

Having only section one play 2 day games and the rest of the comp adopt this new program is just stupid.

[CoverKing]

Ramblers will not be supporting any of the 8 team motions. If you want a one-day comp make it one-dayers only in the bottom grades and even then I don't guarantee our support. Section 1 needs to stay as 2 day games for decent cricket and who wants to go down to section 2? More grades = more premierships so not as hard to win one. Also don't want to be selecting players for 2 dayers in top sections and doing extra selection weeks for lower grades - we like the current situation of alternate weeks for training + selection and the other for just training in all grades.

Your logic is flawed.
7 one-day games + 7 two-day games, does not equal a one-day comp. It is only 3 less two-day games than we currently play (I think last year we only played 8 two-day games, due to weather). If you do the maths this format actually equates to potentially more overs of cricket per season.
More grades does not equate to 'more premierships'. Clubs will still have the same number of teams and in theory premierships should be 'harder' to win as the gap between the strong teams and weaker teams in each section will be much smaller.

Having only section one play 2 day games and the rest of the comp adopt this new program is just stupid.

AF meant, 8 sides per grade, down from 12, means extra sections, which means more premierships. not sure how that is flawed!

our cricket should stay at 2 day cricket. end of story IMO

[someguy1]

I think if were going to play half and half you might as well have 2 separate competitions with a final for the one dayers. Will make promotion and relegation interesting though if someone wins the one day comp and comes bottom in the 2 dayers.

[adelaide bank]

The Cove boys are pretty confident they will do well in section 1 funny seeming they have been handing out pamphlets at the shopping centre trying to get players HA HA HA HA with mick thomas spotted handing out pamphlets at men at work hairdressers

[Barn]

I don't necessarily disagree with more 1 day games - however it could introduce the factor of highly skilled players competing in lower grades and ruining that level of cricket for the people who genuinely play at that standard. I think this was an issue for Southern in the past when they tried it. I like the genuine contest involved in 2 day cricket - particularly at higher levels.

[CoverKing]

I don't necessarily disagree with more 1 day games - however it could introduce the factor of highly skilled players competing in lower grades and ruining that level of cricket for the people who genuinely play at that standard. I think this was an issue for Southern in the past when they tried it. I like the genuine contest involved in 2 day cricket - particularly at higher levels.

well said Barney!

[bazza1]

If Keswicks motion gets up, it will mean that it will a 10 section comp. In section 1 the teams that will drop out will be us, South Rd, Sheidow Pk and Plympton, with Cove starting in Section 2.

[CoverKing]

If Keswicks motion gets up, it will mean that it will a 10 section comp. In section 1 the teams that will drop out will be us, South Rd, Sheidow Pk and Plympton, with Cove starting in Section 2.

What motion is that? Didnt see that!

[bazza1]

That ALL sections play 7+7 in an 8 team section.

[CoverKing]

That ALL sections play 7+7 in an 8 team section.

Wasnt that from South Park? And im pretty sure its div 3 and below

[bazza1]

That was Motion 7 from South Pk, Keswicks is Motion 8